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[GallowsPole]

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Nah. We're arguing over black and white here. This is not a marginal issue, this is simply one party being wrong and refusing to accept it because people hate admitting that they're wrong. 

Humans are stubborn by nature, but it doesn't excuse acting like a 5 year old when someone proves you wrong.

Correct. And when Sirian admits it and correct his 5 year old behavior of name calling, we can all move along. I believe that people resort to this behavior when they are incorrect don't they?

Modifié par GallowsPole, 27 janvier 2013 - 10:55 .

[Caratinoid]

HolyAvenger wrote...

I still haven't played on your host Caratinoid. Sling me an invite next time you have space, I want to see this for myself.

I think you missed the part about your shields not regenerating at all.

EDIT: And I've seen you in my lobbyes before, not sure if I was hosting however.

Modifié par Caratinoid, 27 janvier 2013 - 10:57 .

[EvoSigma]

Lord_Sirian wrote...

EvoSigma wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Caratinoid wrote...

Ok, 3 pages and we already are getting console war posts here, I guess bragging rights about soloing platinum at higher FPS will come next. The reasons I didn't want to post it in the first place. Get your flameshields ready folks.

 

It's not platform wars.

It's the war between the educated and the ignorant.

FOR GREAT JUSTICE.

No it's a war between the stubborn and the stubborn. It's always been this way on BSN and things will never change.

 

Nah. We're arguing over black and white here. This is not a marginal issue, this is simply one party being wrong and refusing to accept it because people hate admitting that they're wrong. 

Humans are stubborn by nature, but it doesn't excuse acting like a 5 year old when someone proves you wrong.

Then just agree to disagree and leave it at that.

[BridgeBurner]

GallowsPole wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Nah. We're arguing over black and white here. This is not a marginal issue, this is simply one party being wrong and refusing to accept it because people hate admitting that they're wrong. 

Humans are stubborn by nature, but it doesn't excuse acting like a 5 year old when someone proves you wrong.

Correct. And when Sirian admits it and correct his 5 year old behavior of name calling, we can all move along. I believe that people resort to this behavior when they are incorrect don't they?

You spend a lot of time on this forum telling everyone else that you are right and they are wrong, but not once do you ever present a coherent argument or any kind of empirical evidence as to why that is the case...

You're a child. 

Keep saying you're right and stick your fingers in your ears and refuse to listen when people prove otherwise; immaturity at its best.

Modifié par Annomander, 27 janvier 2013 - 10:57 .

[UnknownMercenary]

HolyAvenger wrote...

I still haven't played on your host Caratinoid. Sling me an invite next time you have space, I want to see this for myself.

Bring plenty of  lube  oops packs.

[Drayce333]

GallowsPole wrote...

This is why PC players should be taken with a grain of salt.

All the scrubs on that platform. As if it wasn't enough that they  need their 1337 haxxor edited completed manifest and ez mode point n click, but they also need to abuse low FPS AI.

[Caratinoid]

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Caratinoid wrote...

HolyAvenger wrote...

I still haven't played on your host Caratinoid. Sling me an invite next time you have space, I want to see this for myself.

I think you missed the part about your shields not regenerating at all.

 

Do your shields regenerate if regenerated by an outside source? (like biotic charge?)

Yes. Krogard is a go!

Shield regen BUG only happens at very insane FPS however, have to overclock to get that far.

[Jay_Hoxtatron]

Drayce333 wrote...

GallowsPole wrote...

This is why PC players should be taken with a grain of salt.

All the scrubs on that platform. As if it wasn't enough that they  need their 1337 haxxor edited completed manifest and ez mode point n click, but they also need to abuse low FPS AI.

We can also missile glitch. U mad? 

[BridgeBurner]

Lord_Sirian wrote...

EvoSigma wrote...

Then just agree to disagree and leave it at that.

 

Agreeing to disagree is usually done when an issue is subjective and more a matter of personal opinion than cold hard fact.

You do not agree to disagree on facts.

You're entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts.

BSN seems to think otherwise.

[Caratinoid]

UnknownMercenary wrote...

HolyAvenger wrote...

I still haven't played on your host Caratinoid. Sling me an invite next time you have space, I want to see this for myself.

Bring plenty of  lube  oops packs.

Hey don't act like you have seen it all, that was only 120, we haven't tried 300 yet!

EDIT: and geth:devil:

Modifié par Caratinoid, 27 janvier 2013 - 11:06 .

[GallowsPole]

Lord_Sirian wrote...

EvoSigma wrote...

Then just agree to disagree and leave it at that.

 

Agreeing to disagree is usually done when an issue is subjective and more a matter of personal opinion than cold hard fact.

You do not agree to disagree on facts.

Right. So where are your facts? All Ive been called is an idiot and accused of blustering. I havent seen a single fact arise from you refuting me. When you do, Ill admit Im wrong and move along. Im not going to admit Im wrong simply because someone says I must be. End of story. If this is how England works, they should have used that on Germany in WWII.

[OneMore1968]

Thanks Caratinoid. That's a nice bit of bedtime reading there.

I have noticed this phenomenon for some time. I have to remain covered a lot more than "lesser" team-mates (not meant in the sense of their skills but the char/build they are playing) can stay in the open a lot more. I've adjusted to it and I personally cannot abide games that run slowly or jerk about.

Have noticed that it seems to cause other ppl to die more with Dragoons, Phantoms and other faster moving enemies. Maybe they are used to playing on slower host or connection.

Send us an invite someday I wouldnt mind trying your system out, seeing what it is like.

[Jay_Hoxtatron]

Caratinoid wrote...

UnknownMercenary wrote...

HolyAvenger wrote...

I still haven't played on your host Caratinoid. Sling me an invite next time you have space, I want to see this for myself.

Bring plenty of  lube  oops packs.

Hey don't act like you have seen it all, that was only 120, we haven't tried 300 yet!

EDIT: and geth:devil:

I didn't find your hosting hard. It actually was a reprieve to play with a host that gives me less than 80 ms latency.

[Caratinoid]

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

Caratinoid wrote...

UnknownMercenary wrote...

HolyAvenger wrote...

I still haven't played on your host Caratinoid. Sling me an invite next time you have space, I want to see this for myself.

Bring plenty of  lube  oops packs.

Hey don't act like you have seen it all, that was only 120, we haven't tried 300 yet!

EDIT: and geth:devil:

I didn't find your hosting hard. It actually was a reprieve to play with a host that gives me less than 80 ms latency.

That was before the upgrade, I don't think I have played with you since I switched to 120, besides as I said skilled players will not notice it, especially if your latency is low, which should be really low since I'm not far from you (belgium).

[UnknownMercenary]

Caratinoid wrote...

UnknownMercenary wrote...

HolyAvenger wrote...

I still haven't played on your host Caratinoid. Sling me an invite next time you have space, I want to see this for myself.

Bring plenty of  lube  oops packs.

Hey don't act like you have seen it all, that was only 120, we haven't tried 300 yet!

EDIT: and geth:devil:

I do want to try that some day just so I can experience it for myself.

[Menthus]

Thanks for the info. I do have two questions in regards to this topic and hope to get some feedback.

Is the frame rate on the clients dependent on the host? I do notice my FPS varies from host to host, and occasionally I end up in a 20FPS game.

And is the enemy hitting rate dependent on the client FPS or the host FPS?

[P3G4SU5]

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

Qui-Gon Glenn wrote...

Thanks OP, nice to see an actual breakdown of the effects.

I never have the framerate monitor on, but I do have v-sync enabled which I believe locks it at 60fps. Note to all - I said I believe, not I know.

Good to know that my CPU/MoBo/RAM situation isn't going to amp the difficulty any further than my GPU already can. Still, I always remember that no one of my friends really enjoyed playing on my host, and it was because of enemy accuracy and not lag. Thus, I rarely if ever host.

Vsync locks the FPS at your monitor's refresh rate.

In ME3 the rate locked at 62FPS even if you have 120Hz refresh rate set in windows. You have to add 'MaxSmoothedFrameRate=120' to the 'GamerSettings.ini' to enable a 120Hz refresh rate.

Modifié par P3G4SU5, 27 janvier 2013 - 11:22 .

[Mozts]

Living and learning. Industries arrogance biting them in the ass.

[Caratinoid]

Menthus wrote...

Thanks for the info. I do have two questions in regards to this topic and hope to get some feedback.

Is the frame rate on the clients dependent on the host? I do notice my FPS varies from host to host, and occasionally I end up in a 20FPS game.

And is the enemy hitting rate dependent on the client FPS or the host FPS?

No you can set any frame rate you want as client, if your pc can handle it, but there a system in place called frame rate smoothing (active by default) which will alter you frame rate depending on the processing power of your machine. So you can start a game at 30 FPS but then you'll get a map that needs more resources to render or look at a lot of enemies at once which can lock your frame rate at a lower value (22 FPS is the lowest it can set) and will stay there even if your computer can pump out more frames.