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#76
Costin_Razvan

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There's a perfectly good reason for it Knight, a perfectly good reason.

At first I hated Caesar myself but what he did in the last episode really made him grow in my eyes.

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I'll trust you on that one.

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I'll say it like this: There are things in this series you will really enjoy, but then there are things that will really ****** you off ( think of stuff like how Zhao Yun charged that one army in three kingdoms and how much that pissed you off ).

It's no Three Kingdoms ( what the **** could match a series of 95 epic episodes with just four seasons? ) but it's better then Game of Thrones for me.

With regards to Caesar specifically, what he did in the latest episode: Decimation, well...let's just say that it was sweet.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 26 février 2013 - 06:07 .


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Costin_Razvan wrote...

( think of stuff like how Zhao Yun charged that one army in three kingdoms and how much that pissed you off ).


god how much of that happens? 

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I didn't mean it was THAT silly, there is actually no fight in Spartacus that is that bloody ridiculous.

What I meant is that there would be things in the series that would ****** you off as much as that did, but only a few. I personally count about 2 or 3 points.

The fighting in general kinda on the same level of Three Kingdoms in terms of ridiculousness sometimes better sometimes worse.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 26 février 2013 - 06:09 .


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I see. Seems to be worth a shot, will probably start sometime this week.

#82
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Start with Gods of the Arena first, it's a prequel season that they did for the series since the actor of Season 1 got cancer ( he later died and got replaced for Season 2 )

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Ok, thanks

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*waits patiently for KoP to discover the marvels of Spartacus*

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You're still watching it Ivory?

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Yeah, though it's had its ups and downs. I won't lie, the visuals (hem hem) are attractive to me in addition to the story, but I wouldn't keep watching it if I didn't like the story or think it was poorly written (like so many historical series tend to be). Inaccurate as it was, the old Kirk Douglas movie was one of my favorite movies as a kid, so I have a nostalgic love of Spartacus in general. Learning the history just made it more fun.

Sooo, yup. Fan of the series.

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I've tried watching that one, grew quite bored of it quickly.

My favorite Spartacus was the 2004 one. Oh it was inaccurate as **** in terms of history but I still liked it quite a bit. Especially Spartacus and Crassus.

I'd say that between the 2004 one and this series I like Spartacus from the old one better along with Mira and Crixus..As for Crassus I think I like this new one better.

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Well, as I said, it's a nostalgia factor. I grew up without a TV and read loooong books, so when I started seeing all the old movies (Spartacus, Ben Hur, etc) I loved them despite their flaws because of the cinematic feel and flow of them. I'd say I was about 9 or so when I first saw Spartacus, and younger when I saw Ben Hur and Cleopatra (which I still love as well, though not as much as I used to.)

Historically, I've pretty much almost given up on finding a truly historically accurate production that is also a fantastic viewing experience in my own particular skewed definition of 'good', so I'll take what I can get. I'm still peeved that my favorite woman in all of (western) history only has one really good movie about her (Eleanor of Aquitaine). Hmph.

And I definitely agree about the new Crassus. I'm quite liking how they're writing him. Not really Machiavellian, but cunning and with a marvelous grasp of tactics vs strategy (well, as far as Hollywood can go with them, at any rate. Tamerlane would still roll his eyes, I'm sure).

Modifié par tklivory, 26 février 2013 - 08:54 .


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I strongly recommend Three Kingdoms it's as historically accurate as you will ever get.

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Costin_Razvan wrote...

Start with Gods of the Arena first, it's a prequel season that they did for the series since the actor of Season 1 got cancer ( he later died and got replaced for Season 2 )

Did they remove the spoilery parts at the beginning and ending of GOTA?

@KoP: Costin really is right on that one. Can't really judge people by their covers in this series I think, well except for Crassus. Pure bamf from start to finish.
And in Blood & Sand I'd recommend skipping the first episode. The 2nd episode should start out with a recap of the events of the 1st ep without wasting any time or souring your opinion of the series. (Do feel free to correct me if I'm wrong ppl)

Modifié par Zcorck, 26 février 2013 - 04:11 .


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1 and 2 season awesome, season 3 horrible (imho), season 4 kinda good becouse of New Rome guys.

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Rins wrote...

1 and 2 season awesome, season 3 horrible (imho), season 4 kinda good becouse of New Rome guys.


I actually think Season 4 is my favorite.

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Well i dont like Crixus and Naevia, have some mind problem with them :) just hope Naevia will die as soon as possible.

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Rins wrote...

1 and 2 season awesome, season 3 horrible (imho), season 4 kinda good becouse of New Rome guys.


By S2 I assume you mean the prequel season? One currently being aired is Season 3.

...And yeah I very much agree. There was no reason at all for S2 to exist. It felt painfully clear how most of the Romans present were originally ment to die on S1 finale. It was utter terrible bull****. Nothing interesting ever happened. Spartacus the man got  turned into incredibly boring Messianic Gotta-do-the-right-thing super blah.  S3 looks way better in all ways though; colors beyond black and white present, Roman antagonists are genuinely interesting and charismatic again.  Show is going to end up on a high note I'm sure.


Having said that,  I would have loved some 10 seasons worth of  flashbacks from  dying Quintus Batiatus. This tragic never-quite-make-it basterd  scheming and (mostly) failing in (mostly) violent and painful ways and then afterwards describing in colorful fashion which gods are currently busy sodomizing him would have made infinitely better series than watching 20 meatball swimsuit model slaves derping about and trying to figure out how to run a city.
This version of Spartacus could well have a  Season 10 that should  also be a reboot of Lost where dead Batiatus gets teleported to Lost  episode The Pilot, kills Jack, turns rest of them in Gladiators and disses Jupiter.

Modifié par LTD, 28 février 2013 - 04:40 .


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then afterwards describing in colorful fashion which gods are currently busy sodomizing him


Hah, I am laughing my ass off here. "Once again the gods spread the cheecks and ram **** in ****ing ass."

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 01 mars 2013 - 06:49 .


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Damn, Tiberius, just when I was beginning to like you, you had to go and rape your father's lover. Not cool, Tibby, not cool at all.

I'll give the rest of my thoughts on the new episode after I get some sleep.

Modifié par Capt. Obvious, 02 mars 2013 - 05:10 .


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All I have to say is DAMN!!!

I was expecting Tiberius to kill her, not pull a creeper and rape her.

I thought things were well executed, and really want to see how the rebels get out of Marcus' trap. I also wish that some rebels would actually die, seeing all of the important people survive without a scratch is getting a bit old.

Modifié par wsandista, 02 mars 2013 - 06:53 .


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That german rebel died at least. Considering what happened to Faebia I would have been surprised had Caesar let him live.

Don't worry though they will all die, it is....inevitable. As for what Tiberius did, well considering the poisonus honeyed words she has been whispering in Crassus's ears she problably deserved getting slapped...but raped? Meh.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 02 mars 2013 - 11:34 .


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Oh Nemetes. You shall so not be missed. :lol:

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I serously loved the cliffhanger at the end of the episode.




Now would be the time to run.

Modifié par Capt. Obvious, 02 mars 2013 - 07:27 .