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[Dutchess]

Woohoo, I'm on the edge of my seat once again! I love this show. F***ing Cicilian pirates... but yeah, he always did say his loyalty was determined by the hand offering the most coin. Sparty found that out the hard way.

Spartacus and Crixus stand as brothers once more. For now. That peace probably won't last either.

Good thing that Nemetes is finally dead. Was hoping Caesar would let him die when that Roman prisoner strangled him, but finally his time has come!

Wonder what daddy will say of Tiberius' action.

[Costin_Razvan]

Daddy will have his **** chopped off.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 03 mars 2013 - 10:44 .

[wsandista]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

Daddy will have his **** chopped off.

Or pat him on the back.

"No one ****s with a Crassus!"

[Capt. Obvious]

While I don't condone rapists, I still hope that, somehow, Tibby redeems himself in the end.

[wsandista]

Capt. Obvious wrote...

While I don't condone rapists, I still hope that, somehow, Tibby redeems himself in the end.

I don't see how. On one hand, he is fighting for the antagonists and seems to act like the Romans the Rebels love to hate(abuses slaves, arrogant, etc). On the other, he is a rapist.

Was anyone else surprised that Tiberius raped the girl because they thought he was gay?

[Costin_Razvan]

On the other, he is a rapist.

So were Ashur, Batiatus ( who had slaves giving him blowjobs whenever he wanted ) and Lucretia with Crixus and they were still awesome characters. As for redemption, meh doubtful but I think he can rise again as a character.

By modern moral standards they were horrific criminals, but by the standards of the day? What they did was sort of the norm.

 Was anyone else surprised that Tiberius raped the girl because they thought he was gay?

Rape isn't about sex, it's about power, domination, violence and revenge, so he could still be gay.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 04 mars 2013 - 06:20 .

[Capt. Obvious]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

 Was anyone else surprised that Tiberius raped the girl because they thought he was gay?

Rape isn't about sex, it's about power, domination, violence and revenge, so he could still be gay.

Or he could be bisexual.

Either way, while my like for Tiberius has gone down, Caesar to me has risen as a new star in the show. I hope we get a spinoff series revolving around him.

[Jonathan28]

Has the new season of Spartacus started?! Damnit I'm behind now, gotta go watch it online and catch up,

[happy_daiz]

^ You've missed 6 episodes already, and it looks like there may only be 10 episodes in War of the Damned...unless they just haven't posted episode titles for any past that yet.

Modifié par happy_daiz, 06 mars 2013 - 10:09 .

[Capt. Obvious]

happy_daiz wrote...

^ You've missed 6 episodes already, and it looks like there may only be 10 episodes in War of the Damned...unless they just haven't posted episode titles for any past that yet.

There's only been five episodes so far this season. Also, I think it was confirmed to be 10 episodes.

Modifié par Capt. Obvious, 06 mars 2013 - 10:57 .

[happy_daiz]

^ Derp, you're right. The last one they show a thumbnail of doesn't air until tomorrow night.

Well, regardless, the season is half over now.

Modifié par happy_daiz, 07 mars 2013 - 02:46 .

[HoonDing]

Everyone dies.

But undoubtedly the writers will pull a Rome also.

[Capt. Obvious]

Jupiter's ****.... That episode was ****ing magnificent.

[Capt. Obvious]

OK, some thoughts on the recent episode:


-The part where almost the whole rebel cast(Spartacus, Crixus, Gannicus, and Naevia) made me grin.

-You know, the thing about Caesar's fight with Lugo that pissed me off was that Caesar cheated by having his armor on. If he didn't have them on, he wouldn't have been able to injure him by kicking and punching in the abdomen. From the start of the match, Lugo was at a disadvantage and Caesar was sort of cheating the whole time.

-I liked Tiberius's line to his father: "I am what you made me."

-I'll miss the pirate captain and his Sicilian accent.

-Dat horse-riding scene. Just when yout think Gannicus can't get anymore epic, he blows your expectations away. Cutting Caesar midway throught the abdomen and then killing every Roman soldier on horseback while they surround you is so Gannicus.

-The wall at the end was pretty nice. It's good to see that the production of the series has gotten better.

[Capt. Obvious]

I didn't see the promo at the end of the episode, but having now watched it, I think Crixus and Naevia are going to meet their end.

[Dutchess]

Epic episode! Doohh, I thought Gannicus was going to die for sure, but indeed he proves as though to kill as Sparty himself!

I agree with Capt. Obvious. Caesar vs Lugo was an unfair. He would not have won if his opponent hadn't had an injury he could take advantage of. But then again it was never meant to be a fair fight. The rebels had already lost that battle.
Indeed Tiberius' line was fitting. And Crassus thinks he has done a good thing.

Also, pretty extreme that Crassus handed a Roman citizen over as a slave. I'm a bit surprised that Caesar knew about it and apparently didn't think it a big deal either. With a war of Romans vs slaves it's surprising that Romans allow one of their side to be send to the other side.

[Zcorck]

That was Donar. Lugo was the guy at the end carrying Laeta to recovery.

On the other hand Crassus has sacrificed his share of soldies when needed to.
Crassus is not without his honor either, and he would never have to worry about being outbid.

Btw anyone notice Hamilcar standing alongside Heracleo?

[Costin_Razvan]

Capt. Obvious wrote...



I didn't see the promo at the end of the episode, but having now watched it, I think Crixus and Naevia are going to meet their end.

Not yet. Based on this trailer: 


You see Crixus fighting on dry ground when he jumps on that roman in a scene we haven't seen yet, also there's an episode call Separate Path right after the next episode that will come so I take that to mean that it is then that Crixus and Spartacus will finally break their brotherhood.

 -You know, the thing about Caesar's fight with Lugo that pissed me off was that Caesar cheated by having his armor on. If he didn't have them on, he wouldn't have been able to injure him by kicking and punching in the abdomen. From the start of the match, Lugo was at a disadvantage and Caesar was sort of cheating the whole time.

War isn't fair. Reality would like to welcome you into it's arms. Besides Donar was specifically trained by Batiatus in the art of one on one combat and has survived through the trials of the arena. Caesar was not but instead trained in the art of formation fighting.

This is why for all the ridiculous fighting that goes I can accept that the slaves would be able to win against multiple romans in brawls. The fact that Caesar held his own against him proved his capability.

 Also, pretty extreme that Crassus handed a Roman citizen over as a slave. I'm a bit surprised that Caesar knew about it and apparently didn't think it a big deal either. With a war of Romans vs slaves it's surprising that Romans allow one of their side to be send to the other side.

The Sicilian demanded his price and Crassus agreed to it. We are talking of a man who forced his own son to go through decimation, do you honestly believe he would not agree to this bargain? For what it's worth Crassus did seem disguisted by what he had to do. Likely because he did not strike the deal himself.

As for Caesar, you mean the guy who manipulated the rebels into slaughtering every roman in the city just to sow division? Do you think he's above this? Hell it was Caesar that negotiated that deal in the first place with the pirates.

One might say that Crassus and Caesar could have broken their word, sure but once you do that and word get's out that you renege on your deals and perhaps even kill those who aided them then in the future others will be a lot more hesitant about striking a deal with you. Caesar and Crassus as roman generals and politicians both understand the necesity of keeping your word.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 10 mars 2013 - 11:16 .

[Dutchess]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

 Also, pretty extreme that Crassus handed a Roman citizen over as a slave. I'm a bit surprised that Caesar knew about it and apparently didn't think it a big deal either. With a war of Romans vs slaves it's surprising that Romans allow one of their side to be send to the other side.

The Sicilian demanded his price and Crassus agreed to it. We are talking of a man who forced his own son to go through decimation, do you honestly believe he would not agree to this bargain? For what it's worth Crassus did seem disguisted by what he had to do. Likely because he did not strike the deal himself.

As for Caesar, you mean the guy who manipulated the rebels into slaughtering every roman in the city just to sow division? Do you think he's above this? Hell it was Caesar that negotiated that deal in the first place with the pirates.

One might say that Crassus and Caesar could have broken their word, sure but once you do that and word get's out that you renege on your deals and perhaps even kill those who aided them then in the future others will be a lot more hesitant about striking a deal with you. Caesar and Crassus as roman generals and politicians both understand the necesity of keeping your word.

Crassus didn't appear to be that disgusted to me. He was more or less indifferent, doing what had to be done. Perhaps I should rephrase that it's not necessarily surprising that Crassus did such a thing, but that it's uncommon for a Roman to sacrifice a noble woman (I assume Laeta was a noble, though probably not a very high-ranking one), degrading her to slavery. From what I understand, Roman citizenship was important to the Romans, especially in a Roman vs "barbarian" war, and being a Roman citizen determined how you were treated. Letting a Roman citizen be taken as a slave must be a radical move and will likely not be approved by other Romans/the Senate. And before you start that this war requires a ruthless general willing to commit ruthless acts: I am aware of that. I'm merely trying to place this act into context, because it appears controversial.

Well, after Caesar's emotional reaction to Fabia's condition it does surprise me that he would put another Roman woman through that. It seems wishfull thinking that he pirate's intentions were any better than those of the rebels. 

But who would miss a small group of Silician pirates? Backing down on your word sure is risky, but in this scenario it could probably have remained a secret. It seemed to me that keeping his word in this scenario was also partially because of Crassus' sense of honor, that he always wants to keep his promises. But I'm not sure it is that honorable to keep your word when it means you send a woman to slavery. 

[Costin_Razvan]

I think he was disgusted in a sense due to his reaction at the end of the conversation with the pirates. As for Laeta being nobility doubtful since in Rome there was the notion of patrician and nobiles but I find it highly unlikely that the wife of an aedile of a small city would actually be a patrician or a nobiles. Romans of high status did not look kindly on those of lower status, nor where they above slaughtering and enslaving each other especially in that period after Marius and Sulla bloddied the streets of Rome in their civil wars.

Furthermore Laeta was a woman who in Crassus's own words aided the enemy and Rome did not take kindly to traitors nor did it value women as much as men, so hardly the controversy you think it would spark, of course Crassus does the intelligent thing to keep it quiet.

As for the small group of pirates, hardly considering the number of ships they had. If their leader goes unnoticed his men will figure it out that Rome betrayed them and city is full of soldiers who love to talk.

But I'm not sure it is that honorable to keep your word when it means you send a woman to slavery.

Context. Crassus not only accepts slavery but embraces it, he is an owner of a large number of slaves himself, he is leading legions to crush a slave rebelion. He might respect Spartacus as an adversary but he has no qualms about enslaving people.

We are talking here of a man who in the same episode as the one with Laeta sent two of his sex slaves to Caesar as a reward.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 10 mars 2013 - 12:34 .

[Jonathan28]

Just watched episode 1. Gannicus is still my hero.

[billy the squid]

I think Crassus' disgust that we see evident is derived more from his dislike of dealing with Pirates, which to a Roman such as Crassus, are no better than the rebel slaves, considering the pirates make their living by attacking Roman assets, which Crassus may or may not have investments in, I think he's loathed to let them get away. But, he is the wealthiest man in the Republic to say that Crassus doesn't keep his word would tarnish his reputation.

Look how he accepts command, and manipulates the Senate into granting him command of the legions he financed in the previous episode. I don't believe he lied once, but he did put events in motion that would be to his advantage later.

As to Laeta, once she was removed he had complete control of the city. There was no possibility the senate could have used her as a political road block to prevent Crassus' taking control of the city, which they inevitably would given that Crassus had earned enemies within the senate and was tolerated and feared because of power his wealth commanded. "only a fool fights for glory" I think is what he said. And I doubt he had many qualms about removing a minor political figure in Laeta, who I don't think would have even been able to maintain power without competitors in the patriarchal Rome.

[TMB903]

I hated this Caesar at first but he has grown on me. I'm curious to see what happens between Tiberius and Crassus once he learns of what happened. Crixus is awesome and it sucks knowing what's going to happen to him...

[KingJason13]

Legatus Arianus wrote...

I hate these so-called "mature" series:
Game of Thrones
Rome
Spartacus

They're directed to attract the horny jerk audiences.

^ ..Says the deprived jerk.

[Costin_Razvan]

I liked the last episode. Naevia got wounded, Crixus and Spartacus at each other's throats again, Ganicuss growing as a strong character. Crassus playing his gambles once again but for once losing to Spartacus.

Not sure what to think of Kore though. She clearly has been shaken to the core by what Tiberius did to her but at the same time doesn't want to hurt Crassus by revealing it so she runs away to join the rebels, to be honest though I always expected she sould end up in Spartacus's camp.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 16 mars 2013 - 03:31 .