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Spartacus: War of the Damned


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#151
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Costin_Razvan wrote...

I felt quite sorry to see Agron die though ( or did he? ).


I'm 99% sure that Agron is dead, yes. Even if he isn't yet, Crassus will make sure he dies. Didn't he have all survivors crucified or something? Either way, the battle of Crixus and Agron has ended. Vengeance failed in the end.

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Well Agron does show up in a trailer in a battle that hasn't happened yet in the show side by side with Nasir and Castus.

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I think he'll die, but even if he doesn't I don't think he will be in fighting shape for a bit. How many episodes are left?

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Costin_Razvan wrote...

Well Agron does show up in a trailer in a battle that hasn't happened yet in the show side by side with Nasir and Castus.


Really? Hmm, that is weird.

Although you can't see it clearly, this promo for episode 9 seems to show Agron is going to be crucified at 0:19. At least I think it's Agron. You don't get a clear look at his face.


Edit: 2 episodes are left as far as I know. Total of ten episodes this season.

Modifié par renjility, 24 mars 2013 - 04:11 .


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This trailer: at 58 seconds Agron is there.

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LOL, okay, then I'm lost. Thanks for the link. They did move the love triangle between Agron-Nasir-Castus a bit forward in episode 8, so I did think it a bit odd that Agron was then separated from Nasir to die upon the battlefield. I anticipated another scene of Agron beating the crap out of the pirate. xD

But now I wonder how Agron could escape and rejoin Spartacus - if that truly will happen. He clearly was injured and in no state to continue fighting, and Crassus isn't the sloppy type who will give surviving rebels the opportunity to roam freely... perhaps he makes such a mistake because he is currently heart-broken? Still doesn't seem likely. Aaargh, two more weeks of insecurity!

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Promo: Caesar: 500 of your men captured vs the life of Tiberius.

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Wow Tiberius has been trolling everyone lately. Plus, Spartacus/Laeta is icky. :sick:

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Omg Tiberius. He rapes Caesar, kills Agron and then beheads Crixus all in the same episode. That little **** is *worse* than Joffrey.

edit: saw the preview, Agron might not be dead yet, but he denied a 1 on 1 between him and Caesar.

Modifié par Alpha-Centuri, 24 mars 2013 - 10:58 .


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Are they taking a break this Friday?

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wsandista wrote...

Are they taking a break this Friday?


Seems like it. According to the Starz website, the next episode is scheduled for the first week of April, so they skip the Easter weekend.

Modifié par renjility, 24 mars 2013 - 11:39 .


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Is anyone actually a fan of Tiberius? I hate the little ****.

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So after a day of thinking about it and getting past the heart string pulling they were doing with the scenes and musics I don't believe I am that sad about Crixus dying or Naevia suffering or the rebel army losing. If they had won they would have butchered every man, woman and child in the city and one of the cradles of civilization would have been lost.

And one of the things that really irks is how Crixus talks about slavery as if only Rome practiced it, far far removed from the truth since everyone practiced it, not on the same institutional level as Rome sure but it was there.

So nope, I don't feel sorry for Crixus dying, I don't feel sorry for his **** Naevia no matter how many emotional scenes they got with her and I don't hold it against Tiberius for killing Crixus and wounding Agron though of course I find Tiberius a **** for raping Kore and Caesar.

Though in a sense with Tiberius he is the monster that Crassus created.

When all is said and done however it was still an epic episode.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 25 mars 2013 - 12:09 .


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I have to admit, I nearly choked up during Crixus' last speech, especially at the part when he said to the rebels, "Shall we begin?". If anyone else remembers the first time Crixus and Spartacus fought in the arena where after he had toyed with Spartacus for awhile he turned to the crowd and asked, "Shall I begin?". It was very emotional to see it all come full circle.

RIP Crixus

I have a feeling Spartacus might just survive this war for some reason, though I am probably 100% wrong in this feeling.

Rome being sacked wouldn't have irked me, it would have been justice for those who had suffered. Sure, the world might not be the same as it is today if the rebels had won, but it possibly couldn't be as bad as it is now. Slavery would have been abolished long before that's for sure.

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Sure, the world might not be the same as it is today if the rebels had won, but it possibly couldn't be as bad as it is now. Slavery would have been abolished long before that's for sure.


Very wrong actually as there was already plenty of slavery before Rome and it continued long after the West Roman Empire fell.

The world with a Rome falling there and then would have been a lot worse then it is today, accounting for all the variables is impossible but Rome built a civilization, it built roads, schools, hospitals, libraries and so on, it recorded a great deal of ancient history and if it had fallen then much of that would have been lost as it was during the actual historical fall of Rome, except that in reality there was Byzantium to preserve the knowledge and then later on the Arabs with their Golden Age.

It's simply seems shortsighted to me to think that Rome falling there would have been a good thing, it was bad enough as it was when it fell centuries later.

EDIT: Slavery still exists in the world today despite the "official" ban.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 25 mars 2013 - 01:52 .


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Wow, excellent episode on Friday. I will be very sad to see this series end.

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Okay, I just got to see the last episode just now - wtf Tiberius? o_O

1. be an arrogant little brat
2. make a fool out of yourself on the battlefield, nearly get killed and bring Decimation on your troops
3. rape your Dad's true love, then intimidate her until she runs away and joins the enemy
4. rape Julius ****ing Caesar!
5. ???
6. profit!

The little bastard is going to suffer so much...

Anyways, great episode! We all knew Crixus was living on borrowed time, and his farewell address was epic and worthy of the undefeated Gaul. Very emotional stuff. It's really coming to an end soon...

I kinda want Gannicus and his little fangirl to make it out alive and start a more or less peaceful life somewhere out the Republic's reach... like Sparty and Sura had at the very beginning of the show, before all the **** started.

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TheRealJayDee wrote...

I kinda want Gannicus and his little fangirl to make it out alive and start a more or less peaceful life somewhere out the Republic's reach... like Sparty and Sura had at the very beginning of the show, before all the **** started.


I also want Gannicus to get a happy ending. After being such an awesome character for the entire series(sans Season 1 of course), I think he deserves one.

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TheRealJayDee wrote...
Anyways, great episode! We all knew Crixus was living on borrowed time, and his farewell address was epic and worthy of the undefeated Gaul. Very emotional stuff. It's really coming to an end soon...


They could have gone another season depicted Crixus's march up to Rome.  It would have added a little bit of depth.  Crixus's end seemed a little too abrupt for my taste.

Anyone else despise Caesar as much as Tiberius, or is it just me?

Maybe it's just I started off hating Caesar and had sympathy for Tiberius.  And now I just hate them both.

Modifié par Degs29, 05 avril 2013 - 04:17 .


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I can't wait for the finale. Every single season finale of Spartacus have been awesome. And this is the end all be all of the War with the Romans. Epic is what I want. And Epic is what I'll be expecting.

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Degs29 wrote...

TheRealJayDee wrote...
Anyways, great episode! We all knew Crixus was living on borrowed time, and his farewell address was epic and worthy of the undefeated Gaul. Very emotional stuff. It's really coming to an end soon...


They could have gone another season depicted Crixus's march up to Rome.  It would have added a little bit of depth.  Crixus's end seemed a little too abrupt for my taste.

Anyone else despise Caesar as much as Tiberius, or is it just me?

Maybe it's just I started off hating Caesar and had sympathy for Tiberius.  And now I just hate them both.


I don't know, the march to Rome would basically come down to more fighting, more killing Romans. I think it's good that they didn't drag it out more. We've seen all that before, so not sure how that would add more dept. We know why Crixus, Naevia and the others are fighting. They had all the brothers say farewell to each other, then showed Crixus' bloody march on the map, then had the actual fight. I think they've shown what was most important.

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renjility wrote...

I don't know, the march to Rome would basically come down to more fighting, more killing Romans. I think it's good that they didn't drag it out more. We've seen all that before, so not sure how that would add more dept. We know why Crixus, Naevia and the others are fighting. They had all the brothers say farewell to each other, then showed Crixus' bloody march on the map, then had the actual fight. I think they've shown what was most important.


I concur. There wouldn't have been that much potential for anything we hadn't seen most of the season already. Maybe his march on Rome could have filled a whole episode, but even that wasn't neccessary imo. What we got was poignant and an approriate end to Crixus story.

It's like with the show as a whole - I'm extremely happy they're wrapping it up with this season, as long as it's still rather good. Vengeance didn't fill me with confidence that post-ludus Spartacus was going to work at all, but War of the Damned is really enjoyable and thus I'm glad they decided to end on a high point.

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Anyone else saw the new episode of Spartacus?

The end is nigh.

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Damn good. Who wants to bet that Spartacus lives?

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Good Episode. Tiberius got pwnd hard. Good stuff. The next episode will be EPIC!!!!