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[Gamer Ftw]

 I am trying about being a total self serving jerk on my city elf .playthrough.
He let Vaughan bribe him.
Killed the dalish cause they annoyed him.
Mocked a little boy who lost his mom.
And may sell his dad into slavery? wait, is that possible?
And my blood mage who slaughtered the dalish,and Jowan,let Alistair get killed by Anora [giggle] and  a bunch of other stuff.
Plus most of my characters abandon Redcliff.
Couldn't kill Zev though:crying:

Modifié par Gamer Ftw, 28 janvier 2013 - 11:31 .

[dainbramage]

I made one of these. What I did... (spoilers, obviously)

Mage, and dobbed in Jowan in the origin
Slaughtered the circle for fun
Abandoned Redcliffe, then allowed Isolde to sacrifice herself, while I allowed the demon to continue to possess Connor
Defiled the ashes with Leliana in party (Wynne already being dead), then backstabbed Kolgrim
Killed the Dalish
Orzammar unfortunately is hard to properly screw up. Ended up siding with Bhelen and allowing Branka to make golems, though the ending for that scenario isn't too bad.
Let Caladrius do his blood magic spell, sacrificing the elves

Generally killed any NPC I was given the ability to.

As for my companions...
Alistair - executed after Landsmeet
Morrigan - killed in witch hunt
Leliana - killed at urn
Sten - left in cage
Wynne - killed in tower
Zevran - killed at ambush
Oghren - got to -100 approval and killed (though sadly this is retconned in Awakening)
Loghain - killed by archdemon

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

I ended up doing a lot of that as my Surana.

The exceptions mostly revolved around the fact that I treated my companions better than that.

[ejoslin]

My pragmatic city elf did a lot of crappy things. Her finest moment was being at 100 love with and unhardened Leliana and desecrating the urn.

Edit: Her second finest moment was falling to 100 hostile with unhardened Alistair when crowing him king.  There's some really harsh dialogs options for the warden in Alistair's hate talk if he's king while it happens.

Modifié par ejoslin, 28 janvier 2013 - 02:07 .

[Gamer Ftw]

Not true at all in my opinion.
In my city elves case living in a slum made him harder and less emotional.
If you lived In a tightly packed disease ridden city with food shortages you wouldn't survive if you were weak or sentimental.
He looks out for number one because he has too, no one else will.
His own father wants to marry him off to someone he doesn't even know.
He took the deal with Vaughan cause HE felt that ANYTHING was better that living and raising kids in that nasty hellhole.
He killed the dalish because they mocked him calling him flat ears and then he found out Zathrian was responsible for curse.
And he hates his father. did you miss the part where the dad says "you have a smart mouth just like your mother'?
HE SAID THAT ABOUT HIS DEAD MOTHER.
My DALISH elf mage however is a much better person except for the shem murder at the beginning.
He does however listen to Zevran a bit too much.
My human mage is pretty much my most ruthless character though he is pretty much a male Morrigan.
Being wanting to do a circle mage elf playthrough for some reason.

Modifié par Gamer Ftw, 29 janvier 2013 - 10:09 .

[ejoslin]

Well, my city elf had a bit of PTSD. She hated human males, hated human society, hated their religion which seemed to allow for elves to be abused, and the one human she opened herself up to trust tried to murder her.

My dwarf noble was extremely entitled and ruthless, but she understood the importance of a well-ordered government and such. My dwarf casteless was pretty badass, but she had no grudge against the humans at all.

Modifié par ejoslin, 29 janvier 2013 - 03:16 .

[Ferretinabun]

I did enjoy my twisted psychopath runthrough. Female Mage. Started jumping Alistair's bones the moment she learnt he could possibly have a claim to the throne. Even after having her dream of being queen shattered after the Landsmeet (damn you, Alistair), she settled for being his mistress. But then Alistair messed even that up by jumping on the grenade and killing himself by slaying Archie (damn you again, Alistair). I quite liked the idea of an epilogue with an unscrupulous warden undone - her dreams for power shattered by Alistair's sacrifice, no other friends (all dead or driven away in disgust), and being hailed a hero by a queen who obviously hates her after a short stint locked in a tower. A rather empty victory.

But it didn't quite feel right. Anora sounds too genuinely friendly to be simply offering hollow praise through gritted teeth.

Plus, she knifed Dog.

Yeah, she was a ****!

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

Faerunner wrote...

Why do people keep using elves to do terrible things? I actually have even more trouble creating jerk characters with elves because I imagine a history of maltreatment would make them to be even more empathetic of people in tight spots.

Well, I decided to make a character named Shiva. Shiva is the god of purification and destruction, so I wanted him to save the world while destroying as much of it as possible. And if you've ever seen a statue of Shiva, he looks more like a Surana than an Amell, so that was that choice made.

I think the dwaves have more potential to be ruthless since they lead such harsh lives in such a hostile environment. My Brosca was openly loving toward her sister since she was the only person kind to her growing up, but was asolutely vicious toward everyone else (even people she liked) because her harsh upbringing instilled a misguided belief that showing kindness shows weakness (that apparently didn't apply to her sister). She tended to pick the most brutal course of any action because she wanted to be seen as strong; respected and feared. Pleas for mercy just irritated her and made her pummel them with blades to shut them up.

My Brosca was actually metagamed to be the most effective hero possible. Despite the fact that yours is absolutely what would be more likely to happen.

Edit: Although if I ever get around to playing the Aeducan I have waiting on my hard drive, may the Maker help just about everyone in Ferelden.

Modifié par Riverdaleswhiteflash, 30 janvier 2013 - 02:48 .

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

Ferretinabun wrote...


Plus, she knifed Dog.

My Surana saved the mabari, and when the dog came up he said "Maybe it's fate. I always wanted a dog like this."

In fact, I managed to keep every single companion in my party, (Loghain aside since I let Alistair have him) despite defiling the Ashes, and having Leiliana in my party while I did so. And then I went back to camp and slept with her. Wynne hasn't even found out about the Ashes, apparently, since I didn't recruit her until after I defiled them. Do I get a medal for managing the defilement playthrough this well?

Modifié par Riverdaleswhiteflash, 30 janvier 2013 - 02:54 .

[sylvanaerie]

Riverdaleswhiteflash wrote...

Ferretinabun wrote...


Plus, she knifed Dog.

My Surana saved the mabari, and when the dog came up he said "Maybe it's fate. I always wanted a dog like this."

In fact, I managed to keep every single companion in my party, (Loghain aside since I let Alistair have him) despite defiling the Ashes, and having Leiliana in my party while I did so. And then I went back to camp and slept with her. Wynne hasn't even found out about the Ashes, apparently, since I didn't recruit her until after I defiled them. Do I get a medal for managing the defilement playthrough this well?

I've never done this (defiling the ashes), but everyone talks about Leliana flipping out and attacking you.  Is there a persuade or something to prevent this?  Seems pretty lame if that's actually in the game that you can ****** on her beliefs then go back to camp right afterward and sleep with her.  At the very least I would think it would 'break the romance'.  Was it a glitch or something or was the continuity team asleep at the time that could have happened?

To OP, I've never played a jerk character.  Boring, I know but I don't enjoy a game if I don't like the protagonist, I'd never have been able to finish one.  Closest I came was a character so 'damaged' by the attack against his family (Cousland) that he made some bad choices because of PTSD.

But as to the city elves, yea you can agree to let Caladrius take them and leave without a fight (selling them into slavery) or you can allow him to sacrifice them to give you power.  Depends on how fubared up you feel your character would be.

Modifié par sylvanaerie, 30 janvier 2013 - 08:48 .

[Gamer Ftw]

OMG PUPPY!
There is no excuse for killing cute puppy.
Glares at you and hugs Mabari.

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

sylvanaerie wrote...

Riverdaleswhiteflash wrote...

Ferretinabun wrote...


Plus, she knifed Dog.

My Surana saved the mabari, and when the dog came up he said "Maybe it's fate. I always wanted a dog like this."

In fact, I managed to keep every single companion in my party, (Loghain aside since I let Alistair have him) despite defiling the Ashes, and having Leiliana in my party while I did so. And then I went back to camp and slept with her. Wynne hasn't even found out about the Ashes, apparently, since I didn't recruit her until after I defiled them. Do I get a medal for managing the defilement playthrough this well?

I've never done this (defiling the ashes), but everyone talks about Leliana flipping out and attacking you.  Is there a persuade or something to prevent this?  Seems pretty lame if that's actually in the game that you can ****** on her beliefs then go back to camp right afterward and sleep with her.  At the very least I would think it would 'break the romance'.  Was it a glitch or something or was the continuity team asleep at the time that could have happened?

It's an Intimidate, actually. "Before you do anything stupid, remember who I am." "Right, you're that mass murderer I don't have a chance against. I'm not going to stab you. I'm also never going to forgive you for this." (Her lines massively paraphrased to sound less lame, Warden's word-for-word) You have to have hardened her for this, and the check is still massively difficult. I had to do the Ashes pretty late in the game to make sure I had all of what I needed, but before the Circle because I also wanted to keep Wynne. (Not to use, just for the amusement of having her.)

And then she goes right back to sleeping with my Warden. Which is bad writing, and yet also amusing.

Edit: And quick correction with regards to my above post, Morrigan walked away during the endgame. So I don't still have every non-Loghain character. And Alistair died during the endgame, but he was somehow still alive when I went back to do The Stone Prisoner and the other various DLCs.

To OP, I've never played a jerk character.  Boring, I know but I don't enjoy a game if I don't like the protagonist, I'd never have been able to finish one.  Closest I came was a character so 'damaged' by the attack against his family (Cousland) that he made some bad choices because of PTSD.

My Surana was evil for roughly the same reason Howe is; for fun and profit.

But as to the city elves, yea you can agree to let Caladrius take them and leave without a fight (selling them into slavery) or you can allow him to sacrifice them to give you power.  Depends on how fubared up you feel your character would be.

*raises hand* My Surana. Who also sacrificed Connor's soul for a combination of his level 7 specialization and avoiding a fight.

Modifié par Riverdaleswhiteflash, 30 janvier 2013 - 08:58 .

[Gamer Ftw]

Oh,really?
I disagree forcing you into marriage isn't looking out for you.
Did you even play a city elf?
And It is stated alienage's are the same everywhere. {by Zevran I think]
At any rate,I never said they liked living there...
Anyway it's called rp my elf can think differently from you.
I am so tired of people stating their opinion as fact as if it couldn't be any other way.
At any rate Cyrion is an **** who only thinks of what he wants IN MY OPINION.
First he tries to force his son in to marriage,insults the guy's mom.
Then after his son is accepted as a Grey Warden he says "oh,I wanted grandchildren." so it's me, me, me.
I wish I had a option to knock him on his arse.
It's almost like he doesn't want his son to excel at all.
But just live a life fathering starving brats.
Not to mention he never would have gotten grandkids because my city elf is not into women.:blink:And proud strong people?
Not in the least,they live under human rule no matter how badly they are abused.
If I had heard the arl was a murdering rapist,[which they mentioned they already knew] I would have gotten the hell out of there with my family.
also that codex you posted --Sarethia, hahren of the Highever alienage.

Written by one person who sees it that way.

Modifié par Gamer Ftw, 30 janvier 2013 - 10:37 .

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

Gamer Ftw wrote...

Oh,really?
I disagree forcing you into marriage isn't looking out for you.
Did you even play a city elf?
And It is stated alienage's are the same everywhere. {by Zevran I think]

It is actually stated that Denerim is one of the better ones by that Codex. I hope you enjoy that mental image.

Or, of course, that could be just propaganda. The exact words probably are at that. But there's a human from Orlais who, when confronted by an elf for saying that Ferelden is all that free, states that as bad as elves have it in Ferelden, they have to put up with a good deal worse in Orlais.

At any rate,I never said they liked living there...
Anyway it's called rp my elf can think differently from you.
I am so tired of people stating their opinion as fact as if it couldn't be any other way.
At any rate Cyrion is an **** who only thinks of what he wants IN MY OPINION.
First he tries to force his son in to marriage,insults the guy's mom.

Taken in context, it doesn't sound much like an insult.

Then after his son is accepted as a Grey Warden he says "oh,I wanted grandchildren." so it's me, me, me.
I wish I had a option to knock him on his arse.
It's almost like he doesn't want his son to excel at all.
But just live a life fathering starving brats.

At what price glory? The Wardens tend to die at about the age Cyrion looks to be, and a warrior would probably die sooner judging by Gaider's quote on how continued exposure to the Taint doesn't help. And during a Blight all bets are off anyway. I can understand an elf or a mage (especially the latter, who risk less from fighting) thinking that it's worth the price of an early death for a more glorious and free life, but I can also understand that elf or mage (or his loved ones) thinking dying too young is too much of a price.

Not to mention he never would have gotten grandkids because my city elf is not into women.

Not that this mitigates the blow much, but it's pretty unrealistic from a medieval history point of view to expect parents to accept that.

And proud strong people?
Not in the least,they live under human rule no matter how badly they are abused.
If I had heard the arl was a murdering rapist,[which they mentioned they already knew] I would have gotten the hell out of there with my family.

Moving costs money. And said murdering rapist's father, not to mention Thedas as a whole, does a great job stopping elves from having any. As for proud and strong, I think that's a little open to interpretation.

Modifié par Riverdaleswhiteflash, 30 janvier 2013 - 10:45 .

[Gamer Ftw]

In my opinion better freedom or death than starving or rape.
On the contrary,being gay or bi seems pretty accepted in Ferelden.
If Cyrion can't put his son's happiness over his own wishes what kind of father is he?
"Hey,I know you aren't attracted women and have told me that you don't want to get married,but marry this total stranger and have kids in a disease ridden slum." because um? I want grandkids...?
If my character hadn't hated his father he would have been crushed when he came to say goodbye and his father wasn't proud he was going to be a warden.
And yeah I understand he may have been sad his son might die,but he just said I wanted grandkids not I'm afraid for your life.
Not to mention by being a warden his son would set an amazing example for other elves.
Or that his son would have a life of doing something meaningful instead of being a servant or breeding stock.

Modifié par Gamer Ftw, 30 janvier 2013 - 11:24 .

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

Gamer Ftw wrote...

In my opinion better freedom or death than starving or rape.
On the contrary,being gay or bi seems pretty accepted in Ferelden.

I'm pretty sure Zevran said they're more finicky than that, or at least they usually are. At any rate, I don't think the actual middle ages were anything like as accepting as Ferelden is shown to be.

If Cyrion can't put his son's happiness over his own wishes what kind of father is he?

A typical medieval one. And not so atypical of many other time periods, really. (It's not an excuse, it's just a comparison.)

"Hey,I know you aren't attracted women and have told me that you don't want to get married,but marry this total stranger and have kids in a disease ridden slum." because um? I want grandkids...?
If my character hadn't hated his father he would have been crushed when he came to say goodbye and his father wasn't proud he was going to be a warden.
And yeah I understand he may have been sad his son might die,but he just said I wanted grandkids not I'm afraid for your life.

I think the two kind of go hand in hand. Cyrion wouldn't know that the Wardens are infertile.

Not to mention by being a warden his son would set an amazing example for other elves.
Or that his son would have a life of doing something meaningful instead of being a servant or breeding stock.

There's this Seinfeld quote I saw on Tv Tropes on the "What did you expect when you named it X?" page. "You know, when you name your son Jeeves, you've pretty much set his life's path for him. I mean, what's he going to become, a hitman?"

Naturally, I made Jeeves Tabris an assassin for his first spec. I thought it was pretty symbolic of the perception that elves are born to be servants, and the CE Warden just completely flipping that off.

[lyriumaddict104]

Ferretinabun wrote...

I did enjoy my twisted psychopath runthrough. Female Mage. Started jumping Alistair's bones the moment she learnt he could possibly have a claim to the throne. Even after having her dream of being queen shattered after the Landsmeet (damn you, Alistair), she settled for being his mistress. But then Alistair messed even that up by jumping on the grenade and killing himself by slaying Archie (damn you again, Alistair). I quite liked the idea of an epilogue with an unscrupulous warden undone - her dreams for power shattered by Alistair's sacrifice, no other friends (all dead or driven away in disgust), and being hailed a hero by a queen who obviously hates her after a short stint locked in a tower. A rather empty victory.

But it didn't quite feel right. Anora sounds too genuinely friendly to be simply offering hollow praise through gritted teeth.

Plus, she knifed Dog.

Yeah, she was a ****!

I like your evil mage, the personality you gave her and her story/downfall. My meanest character, to date, was a male Amell, who romanced Morrigan. And I tried to make him mirror her attitude and "morals", doing most everything she preferred. I used her as a guideline, in part to keep track of all the bad ways to handle a situation, and to try to make them of a similar mind and disposition. I wanted to see how someone more like her would get along with her. Only, I never killed doggie with this mage. I don't know if I can ever do it with a heartless, ruthless character, though it's more likely that such a person wouldn't care for animals and wouldn't mind killing this one. One question though: why didn't your Surana or Amell pimp Alistair out to Morrigan in order to save her own life? Of course, it was easier for mine to do the DR, as he was already sleeping with her.

The mage seems easiest for me to make into a "darker", evil, power-hungry, self-serving bastard than even the dwarves or elves do. The dwarves make sense as ruthless Wardens, DC or DN, but the mage seems perfect for taking all the darkest options in the game, like accepting Caladrius' offer and giving Connor to the demon in the Fade. I can't see the elves as being that evil, but however others roleplay is up to them and doesn't really bother me.

[Gamer Ftw]

Well,I named my elf Vhaeraun, pretty much suits his personality.
I have to point out ferelden has different values than actual medieval life.
And as to what Zevran says, he says that in regard to Alistair not gay or bisexuality.
If you notice no one says a thing about you being in a bi or gay relationship with Zevran or Leliana it's not a big deal.
Cyrion didn't say the grandkids thing cause he thought or knew the wardens were inferrile.
He wanted his sons life to be giving him grandkids.
He actually said that.
Could you imagine going up to your parents and saying "hey,I just got accepted to do this very important thing."
And they looked disappointed and say they are disappointed that you might do something other than stay in a slum having kids?
Anway no idea why I'm getting arguement if I don't rp my character like yours.
Or why you can't accept I have a differing opinion.
Also lyriumaddict your mage sounds like my Darius Amell.
He didn't knife dog cause he thought he might be of use  if he could get him to imprint.
And he was mad for Morrigan.

Modifié par Gamer Ftw, 31 janvier 2013 - 03:22 .

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

Gamer Ftw wrote...

Well,I named my elf Vhaeraun, pretty much suits his personality.

If I'd known what personality I was going to give my Amell, I might have named her Sharess.

I have to point out ferelden has different values than actual medieval life.

I guess so, yeah.

And as to what Zevran says, he says that in regard to Alistair not gay or bisexuality.

Actually, I'm pretty sure I got this question raised during a conversation in which Alistair wasn't covered.

If you notice no one says a thing about you being in a bi or gay relationship with Zevran or Leliana it's not a big deal.

Well, point taken.

Cyrion didn't say the grandkids thing cause he thought or knew the wardens were inferrile.
He wanted his sons life to be giving him grandkids.
He actually said that.
Could you imagine going up to your parents and saying "hey,I just got accepted to do this very important thing."
And they looked disappointed and say they are disappointed that you might do something other than stay in a slum having kids?
Anway no idea why I'm getting arguement if I don't rp my character like yours.

Wait, is this rp, or are we trying to give objective summaries of Cyrion's character?

Or why you can't accept I have a differing opinion.
Also lyriumaddict your mage sounds like my Darius Amell.
He didn't knife dog cause he thought he might be of use  if he could get him to imprint.
And he was mad for Morrigan.

If I remember correctly, I think my Surana saved the dog in the hopes of getting some reward. He demanded money for the herb, and then the dog shows up later and he says "Yeah, I think I'll take that too."

He romanced Leiliana instead of Morrigan, though. Primarily because I'd romanced Morrigan the previous playthrough. (Jumping her bones the second I got back from defiling her Prophet's body was a benefit I hadn't thought that far through yet.)

Modifié par Riverdaleswhiteflash, 31 janvier 2013 - 03:40 .

[lyriumaddict104]

Gamer Ftw wrote...

Well,I named my elf Vhaeraun, pretty much suits his personality.
I have to point out ferelden has different values than actual medieval life.
And as to what Zevran says, he says that in regard to Alistair not gay or bisexuality.
If you notice no one says a thing about you being in a bi or gay relationship with Zevran or Leliana it's not a big deal.
Cyrion didn't say the grandkids thing cause he thought or knew the wardens were inferrile.
He wanted his sons life to be giving him grandkids.
He actually said that.
Could you imagine going up to your parents and saying "hey,I just got accepted to do this very important thing."
And they looked disappointed and say they are disappointed that you might do something other than stay in a slum having kids?
Anway no idea why I'm getting arguement if I don't rp my character like yours.
Or why you can't accept I have a differing opinion.
Also lyriumaddict your mage sounds like my Darius Amell.
He didn't knife dog cause he thought he might be of use  if he could get him to imprint.
And he was mad for Morrigan.

Good thing that Ferelden and Thedas in general seem to be more accepting than any society in our real world ever was. Granted, it has kept a lot of influence from the middle ages (as far as I'm any expert in the period) but this game wouldn't be playable for anyone wanting to have a character that's not heterosexual, or possibly even one who's not waiting til marriage...for that special time. And, we wouldn't be able to have female Wardens, so I'm grateful for that almost every time I start a new character. (Is this going to be a problem when DA:I takes place in Orlais? I know they allow female Chevaliers now but they still kind of seem like pigs, from talking to the Orlesian woman in the Denerim market).

I don't know if I can be objective in regards to Cyrion, since I mostly prefer Faerunner's view of alienage life and therefore try to put a better spin on what he says. I have a Tabris but she's stuck waiting for me to get started on hunting down Witherfang. I can't remember what she said to her father but personally, I was a little stung and taken aback by his comment. At face value it does seem kind of crappy that that's the best he can say when his son or daughter's leaving him for good and may even not live out the year. But lately I started to wonder if he was being passive-aggressive (I'm not sure if that's accurate) to hide what he really wanted to say but couldn't. It seemed to me like no one in the Warden's family or circle of friends/acquaintances really wants to criticize or bad-mouth the Wardens. Maybe Cyrion was too afraid to say, even in private, that he blamed Duncan for taking you? I thought some other players had once said they moved up the wedding just to beat Duncan to the punch. Although, I can understand that it doesn't matter necessarily what Cyrion meant by that statement if you or your Tabris doesn't see it as place worth staying in anyway. I kind of liked my Tabris' fiance and sort of expected that they might be okay together if Vaughan hadn't ruined everything. It seemed like our CE's father was better off, financially, than the other elves in the alienage too, so I kind of like to see that as a positive influence on my Tabris' upbringing, that she didn't have to suffer nearly as much as other elves in the alienage most likely did. (I may be wrong as I haven't read the codex on it in a while).

But I can see your perspective of Cyrion as consistent with your view of alienage life in general. It's harder to believe Cyrion means well at all if already your Tabris doesn't like life in the alienage and had a tougher time growing up. It's an interesting way to roleplay it and would make for a good reason for Tabris to be more than happy to join the Wardens. My Tabris wasn't thrilled to leave the alienage but she saw it as necessary, to hopefully get away before she brought more trouble upon the community and her family, and as a way to possibly make a difference, to do some good with the Wardens. I guess the lore says it's supposed to be an honor to be recruited by the Wardens but for the most part, in each origin it seems more like a timely and very fortuitous get out of jail free card. So, I guess it's up to each player to use the origin to determine his/her character's reaction to the offer, since it can't be refused, unless someone really wants to die right away.

I may redo my Amell sometime. That's a good reason to keep Dog. Most Fereldens probably know the value of a mabari anyway, right? I should just rp it that way next time. Yeah, I'd like to think that men like our two Amells couldn't resist Morrigan. Even I like her, though it was hard at first 'cause it felt like going for my sister (albeit a very mean one, lol), possibly since I'd befriended her with several female Wardens previously. I don't have that problem with Leliana at least.

riverdaleswhiteflash wrote...

If I remember correctly, I think my Surana saved the dog in the hopes of
getting some reward. He demanded money for the herb, and then the dog
shows up later and he says "Yeah, I think I'll take that too."

He
romanced Leiliana instead of Morrigan, though. Primarily because I'd
romanced Morrigan the previous playthrough. (Jumping her bones the
second I got back from defiling her Prophet's body was a benefit I
hadn't thought that far through yet.)

Heh, there's probably something wrong with me as I laughed at and enjoyed both of these, and I really liked what your Surana said when Dog showed up. I think I misread the second a little bit at first but it's still kind of funny (and it's probably wrong that I think so). My Daylen Amell lied to Leliana but didn't get anything out of it, if I remember correctly. I think he wasn't that interested in her but seemed to like keeping her as a companion. Poor Leliana would suffer if my heathen bastard were ever interested in her. Hm, I like saving her for a good person, as I don't think she deserves anyone like my Amell, but it would be interesting to see what happens. If I may ask, was your Surana ever rude to her or openly anti-Andrastrian? My Amell's pretty smooth but I don't know how much of himself he'd reveal to anyone not like him.

[zenrockoutkast]

 I was going to come in here and talk about my jerk character, but sweet Jesus, mine doesn't compare to the ones in here.  I basically did a city elf who was resentful of humans at the start and basically went full-out sociopath (by that I mean she'll kill people just about every time she gets a chance) because of what happened to Shianni.  I still view her as coldly pragmatic, though, somewhat like Sten and Morrigan.  She's not going to just leave Sten there to die when he could be of some use, or slit Zevran's throat (but mostly because I wanted an elf assassin romance).  Or sell her father into slavery, she's not that messed up.

[Gamer Ftw]

I feel dog is very valuable to a mage character cause he could fight for you if your mana was depleted or drained for some reason.

Modifié par Gamer Ftw, 01 février 2013 - 10:52 .