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[Synergizer]

High Stakes Quasar! Now I can add gambling to my Shepard's long list of vices.
"Hell yeah! Put more of the stuff ...in the thing... more stuff goes in"

[john-in-france]

As long as the DLC has some relevent storyline...and is not an Arena 'shoot em up'. I winced at the Arena signs behind the casinos....ackkkk.

[Mcfly616]

reddeath4242 wrote...

I have to say this a genius hype generating machine bioware has going

started by the fans, after setting their eyes on two screenshots. Hype trains been going for over a week now. Bioware didnt have to say a word. But if it makes you feel better, you can assume that BW started the "hype train".

[coldsteelblue]

So, I was just wondering if another alternate appearance pack or weapon pack will be released along with this, as so far there has been one to coinside with all other dlc.

Just curious.

Modifié par coldsteelblue, 07 février 2013 - 10:22 .

[MattFini]

Mcfly616 wrote...

reddeath4242 wrote...

I have to say this a genius hype generating machine bioware has going

started by the fans, after setting their eyes on two screenshots. Hype trains been going for over a week now. Bioware didnt have to say a word. But if it makes you feel better, you can assume that BW started the "hype train".

... which is PERFECTLY understandable and, also, did exactly what BioWare wanted it to do. It got the fans talking - even moreso than before.

But it's good to know for sure that this won't be set post-ending.

Hopefully it's more LotSb and less Omega and I'm sure I'll be happy with it.

::still rides hype train::

[Killdren88]

It is quite genius. Advertise without actually doing it. Let the fans hype it up while promising nothing. That way they can say "We never said that. You did." when it comes out and it is nothing what people said it would be. Rendering Bioware Scott free. But people will still come here and rage.

[CronoDragoon]

Well hopefully it's now confirmed for everyone that the DLC is pre-Priority Earth.

Having said that, I have no clue what the subject of this DLC will be. There doesn't appear to me to be any loose ends in the story.

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

CronoDragoon wrote...

Well hopefully it's now confirmed for everyone that the DLC is pre-Priority Earth.

Having said that, I have no clue what the subject of this DLC will be. There doesn't appear to me to be any loose ends in the story.

I have a feeling that it's going to be just like Omega. 

[hiraeth]

CronoDragoon wrote...

Well hopefully it's now confirmed for everyone that the DLC is pre-Priority Earth.

Having said that, I have no clue what the subject of this DLC will be. There doesn't appear to me to be any loose ends in the story.

Well, I don't know about *that,* but I'm also having a hard time predicting what this could be about (that's worth an entire DLC, anyway)

[ElectronicPostingInterface]

Jessica Merizan on Twitter, who has seen the new DLC apparently

"AKA, yes we're listening :)"

"you can hope I suppose, but we already answered that :/ #noplansforpostendingdlc"

I completely respect Bioware's right to make whatever they want. It's their game, their IP, their studio.

But if you are listening, you would know people are still pretty much really dissatisfied with the conclusions of the game.

At this point, you would have to have a hole in your head to really believe the ending would be changed at all, but I dunno. It feels incredibly insincere to reach out to your fans and say you are "listening" and then the #1 complaint is like, "Oh. Nah. We're not doing that."

Just tell me you believe in the vision of Mass Effect 3 and that this DLC will enhance and continue the things I didn't like. I would prefer that and artistic integrity in marketing than to tell us you are "listening." You guys said over and over you were artists. Make art or something because that seems to be above "populist" concerns.

Modifié par PKchu, 07 février 2013 - 05:53 .

[CronoDragoon]

MassEffectFShep wrote...

Well, I don't know about *that,* but I'm also having a hard time predicting what this could be about (that's worth an entire DLC, anyway)

There doesn't appear to be any loose ends that would imply DLC, is what I meant. Lair of the Shadow Broker for example it was obvious there was going to be content there for DLC. Same with Omega.

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

PKchu wrote...

Jessica Merizan on Twitter, who has seen the new DLC apparently

"AKA, yes we're listening :)"

"you can hope I suppose, but we already answered that :/ #noplansforpostendingdlc"

I completely respect Bioware's right to make whatever they want. It's their game, their IP, their studio.

But if you are listening, you would know people are still pretty much really dissatisfied with the conclusions of the game.

At this point, you would have to have a hole in your head to really believe the ending would be changed at all, but I dunno. It feels incredibly insincere to reach out to your fans and say you are "listening" and then the #1 complaint is like, "Oh. Nah. We're not doing that."

Just tell me you believe in the vision of Mass Effect 3 and that this DLC will enhance and continue the things I didn't like. I would prefer that and artistic integrity in marketing than to tell us you are "listening." You guys said over and over you were artists. Make art or something because that seems to be above "populist" concerns.

Pretty much exactly how I feel. But of course, they won't be bothered to acknowledge our concerns. 

[Kabraxal]

PKchu wrote...

Jessica Merizan on Twitter, who has seen the new DLC apparently

"AKA, yes we're listening :)"

"you can hope I suppose, but we already answered that :/ #noplansforpostendingdlc"

I completely respect Bioware's right to make whatever they want. It's their game, their IP, their studio.

But if you are listening, you would know people are still pretty much really dissatisfied with the conclusions of the game.

At this point, you would have to have a hole in your head to really believe the ending would be changed at all, but I dunno. It feels incredibly insincere to reach out to your fans and say you are "listening" and then the #1 complaint is like, "Oh. Nah. We're not doing that."

Just tell me you believe in the vision of Mass Effect 3 and that this DLC will enhance and continue the things I didn't like. I would prefer that and artistic integrity in marketing than to tell us you are "listening." You guys said over and over you were artists. Make art or something because that seems to be above "populist" concerns.

Don't bother.   If they don't understand why their endings are still terrible we'll just have to remember the good ole days of Bioware being a good dev that produced amazing games while trying to find that fix elsewhere.  They can then sit there and wonder why the next ME game is in the bargain bin within a matter of days.

Seriously, unless the ending is made better in some way, the DLC and any new game would be utterly meaningless in this universe.  It's already been torched.

Modifié par Kabraxal, 07 février 2013 - 06:06 .

[Eterna]

Correction, the BSN is still unsatisfied. Don't you get it yet? You're too small of a group for them to care about catering too anymore. 

Modifié par Eterna5, 07 février 2013 - 06:03 .

[xrudix]

PKchu wrote...

Jessica Merizan on Twitter, who has seen the new DLC apparently

"AKA, yes we're listening :)"

"you can hope I suppose, but we already answered that :/ #noplansforpostendingdlc"

I completely respect Bioware's right to make whatever they want. It's their game, their IP, their studio.

But if you are listening, you would know people are still pretty much really dissatisfied with the conclusions of the game.

At this point, you would have to have a hole in your head to really believe the ending would be changed at all, but I dunno. It feels incredibly insincere to reach out to your fans and say you are "listening" and then the #1 complaint is like, "Oh. Nah. We're not doing that."

Just tell me you believe in the vision of Mass Effect 3 and that this DLC will enhance and continue the things I didn't like. I would prefer that and artistic integrity in marketing than to tell us you are "listening." You guys said over and over you were artists. Make art or something because that seems to be above "populist" concerns.

they can't change endings, even if they wanted, cause a lot of reasons:
need A LOT of investments to change ending to fit it or other stuff, which they dont have

need A LOT of staff to make that, they wont hire new people for one dlc and then fire them. During development they stated that they had lack of graphics designers, thats why we have crap animations, graphics, etc. Thru i think the mechanics are bad because they dont know UE well....

need A GOOD writing, imho this is a big problem.
have a lot of VOs, shift their schedule.

And if even they did it, they couldnt sale it, becuase it will bring a bigger backlash, i.e. EAware selling not complete game1111

And community manager is a small fish, she is just a face of a company.

[Kabraxal]

Eterna5 wrote...

Correction, the BSN is still unsatisfied. Don't you get it yet? You're too small of a group for them to care about catering too anymore. 

That would work if every place that talked about the game wasn't agreeing that the endings were horrible.  I have yet to find one place that a majority believe the ending is good.

[Eterna]

Kabraxal wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Correction, the BSN is still unsatisfied. Don't you get it yet? You're too small of a group for them to care about catering too anymore. 

That would work if every place that talked about the game wasn't agreeing that the endings were horrible.  I have yet to find one place that a majority believe the ending is good.

They've won peoples cjoice awards on numerous sites. Clearly it isn't that big of a deal. 

[ElectronicPostingInterface]

Eterna5 wrote...

Correction, the BSN is still unsatisfied. Don't you get it yet? You're too small of a group for them to care about catering too anymore. 

I don't honestly wish bad things or sales on anyone, but you don't become a viral "ending is bad" meme to the level of Mass Effect 3's without doing serious damage to your brand. On a personal level, mentioning Mass Effect to random strangers who aren't gamers typically elicits a "Mass Effect? That's the game with the bad ending." 

There might not be enough people to care to "cater" to because they've lost a ton of customers because they lost their appetite for the series or simply don't care about it anymore. Most people have probably moved onto other things that aren't Mass Effect. 

Hell - who still buys single player DLCs a year after release? Probably fans who are still invested in the series.

The proof will be in the pudding - interest and sales of Mass Effect 4 will show if people really meant it or were right about the conclusion and future of Mass Effect being permanently tainted.

Either way, I agree with you in some way - I am not the audience for Mass Effect anymore nor am I being "catered to," nor do I demand or expect Bioware to appease me. They have a different audience now with different vision. Good luck - no hard feelings on my end. 

Modifié par PKchu, 07 février 2013 - 06:11 .

[MrStrider75]

Regardless of what Jessica is saying in her tweets, I’m
still holding out hope that this dlc will be significant in some way.  With Omega’s poor reception and its lack of
substantive narrative storytelling, followed by Bioware’s ‘all hands on deck’
approach to this upcoming dlc, there’s at least the hint of something more
substantial.  Even if it’s not true
post-ending dlc, it may at least be something that contributes to the story or
provides some additional clarity about the endings, similar to Leviathan.

I also find the fact that they’ve gone to the trouble of
updating the data pad app (that’s essentially been broken for months) right
around the same time of the release points to the dlc’s potential significance
to the overall plot of ME3.  

[Fuzrum77]

Eterna5 wrote...

Kabraxal wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Correction, the BSN is still unsatisfied. Don't you get it yet? You're too small of a group for them to care about catering too anymore. 

That would work if every place that talked about the game wasn't agreeing that the endings were horrible.  I have yet to find one place that a majority believe the ending is good.

They've won peoples cjoice awards on numerous sites. Clearly it isn't that big of a deal. 

1.) Retake ME3 raising 75 K + for a children's charity (and who knows how much more if the Penny Arcade dbags hadn't cut it off)

2.) Practically every other thread in this forum relating to the endings STILL after nearly a year has passed.

3.) How quickly ME3 dropped in price.

4.) The gaming articles (Forbes, etc.)

5.) How everyone I know, and everyone -they- know despises the ending.

6.) The Extended Cut

7.) The Doctors retiring from gaming. (May not be wholly involved, but I suspect so.)

Yeah. It's kind of a big deal.

* P.S. I'm not saying any of this is good or bad. I'm just commenting on the ramifications of this game's ending. In particular I'm saddened by the Doctors retiring and the toxic behavior of some of the "re-takers." But regardless: you can't say this wasn't a big deal. To some degree, this will haunt Bioware forever.

Modifié par Fuzrum77, 07 février 2013 - 06:29 .

[fiendishchicken]

At Fuzrum

I think that 7 might have also had to do with TORtanic as well.

Modifié par fiendishchicken, 07 février 2013 - 06:28 .

[Fuzrum77]

fiendishchicken wrote...

At Fuzrum

I think that 7 might have also had to do with TORtanic as well.

TORtanic. LOL. I haven't heard that one. But yes, that would not surprise me.

[dreman9999]

Fuzrum77 wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Kabraxal wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Correction, the BSN is still unsatisfied. Don't you get it yet? You're too small of a group for them to care about catering too anymore. 

That would work if every place that talked about the game wasn't agreeing that the endings were horrible.  I have yet to find one place that a majority believe the ending is good.

They've won peoples cjoice awards on numerous sites. Clearly it isn't that big of a deal. 

1.) Retake ME3 raising 75 K + for a children's charity (and who knows how much more if the Penny Arcade dbags hadn't cut it off)

2.) Practically every other thread in this forum relating to the endings STILL after nearly a year has passed.

3.) How quickly ME3 dropped in price.

4.) The gaming articles (Forbes, etc.)

5.) How everyone I know, and everyone -they- know despises the ending.

6.) The Extended Cut

7.) The Doctors retiring from gaming. (May not be wholly involved, but I suspect so.)

Yeah. It's kind of a big deal.

* P.S. I'm not saying any of this is good or bad. I'm just commenting on the ramifications of this game's ending. In particular I'm saddened by the Doctors retiring and the toxic behavior of some of the "re-takers." But regardless: you can't say this wasn't a big deal. To some degree, this will haunt Bioware forever.

1.You totaly missunderstand that case.
2.That just mean people still did not get over it.
3.ME1 and ME2 also quickly dropped in price. As well asdragon age :origins and DA2.
4.So?
5.AKA original ending.
6. Which fixed it...You point?

And with all those issue they stil won a bunch of awards and peopel choice awards.

[Eterna]

Fuzrum77 wrote...


1.) Retake ME3 raising 75 K + for a children's charity (and who knows how much more if the Penny Arcade dbags hadn't cut it off)

Before the extended cut. 

2.) Practically every other thread in this forum relating to the endings STILL after nearly a year has passed.

The same people. Over and over again. 

3.) How quickly ME3 dropped in price.

All games drop in price.

4.) The gaming articles (Forbes, etc.)

Before the extended cut

5.) How everyone I know, and everyone -they- know despises the ending.

Anecdotal, doesn't mean ****. 

6.) The Extended Cut

And? The EC fixed it for the majority of people. 

7.) The Doctors retiring from gaming. (May not be wholly involved, but I suspect so.)

That was because you guys created such a toxic environment for everyone. 

Yeah. It's kind of a big deal.

Not really. 

Modifié par Eterna5, 07 février 2013 - 06:41 .

[Fuzrum77]

dreman9999 wrote...

Fuzrum77 wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Kabraxal wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Correction, the BSN is still unsatisfied. Don't you get it yet? You're too small of a group for them to care about catering too anymore. 

That would work if every place that talked about the game wasn't agreeing that the endings were horrible.  I have yet to find one place that a majority believe the ending is good.

They've won peoples cjoice awards on numerous sites. Clearly it isn't that big of a deal. 

1.) Retake ME3 raising 75 K + for a children's charity (and who knows how much more if the Penny Arcade dbags hadn't cut it off)

2.) Practically every other thread in this forum relating to the endings STILL after nearly a year has passed.

3.) How quickly ME3 dropped in price.

4.) The gaming articles (Forbes, etc.)

5.) How everyone I know, and everyone -they- know despises the ending.

6.) The Extended Cut

7.) The Doctors retiring from gaming. (May not be wholly involved, but I suspect so.)

Yeah. It's kind of a big deal.

* P.S. I'm not saying any of this is good or bad. I'm just commenting on the ramifications of this game's ending. In particular I'm saddened by the Doctors retiring and the toxic behavior of some of the "re-takers." But regardless: you can't say this wasn't a big deal. To some degree, this will haunt Bioware forever.

1.You totaly missunderstand that case.
2.That just mean people still did not get over it.
3.ME1 and ME2 also quickly dropped in price. As well asdragon age :origins and DA2.
4.So?
5.AKA original ending.
6. Which fixed it...You point?

And with all those issue they stil won a bunch of awards and peopel choice awards.

I'm not even arguing the validity or the merit of them receiving those awards. I was arguing that the ending fiasco was a big deal.

1.) Doesn't matter what the case was. It -happened-
2.)  We agree on this.
3.) Not as fast as ME3. (No, I don't have a source...)
4.) So? What do you mean so? It's just another example of how this got a lot of attention.
5.) Uh no. Well yes but also the extended cut.
6.) Very debatable. Very. But still not my point. That it even exists or that was even created means this whole thing was a big deal.