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[alsonamedbort]

Food poisoning = you get sick no matter what, it's a fact. The food made you sick.

Ending of a game = it either appeals to you or it doesn't, it's an opinion. Disappointment is natural if you don't like it, but comparing it to food poisoning is just not the same.

Neither BioWare nor EA stiffed anyone. Not liking =/= getting ripped off.

[CoolioThane]

Anyone else laugh at: they stiffed us, then they blew us... :3

[CronoDragoon]

MattFini wrote...

Have people's thoughts/attitude changed towards this next DLC?

Still hyped? Abandoned hope? Pessimistic? Optimistic?

Curious to hear where everyone is as we'll likely know more next week.

I'm still...excited.

Well, I am as excited as I usually am for BioWare DLC. The issue I'm having right now is that without any info, and without any clear story thread in ME3 that could be tied up in DLC, my excitement is kinda based around the fact that this is the last ME3 DLC, and that therefore I expect them to make it epic. That can be problematic because then when the DLC comes out I am sort of evaluating it based on something other than what it is.

So I'm trying not to get too hyped because "it's the last DLC" so that I can absorb whatever they give us on its own merits.

[Budgier]

CoolioThane wrote...

Anyone else laugh at: they stiffed us, then they blew us... :3

omg

[SamFisher3000]

Bioware says they listened to fan feedback and we will see that in the next DLC. What do you think we will get after all? I hope for Harbinger and collectors, but a Casino? Maybe we will meet DJ Harbinger after all...

[Jull3]

Funkdrspot wrote...

Reth Shepherd wrote...

The MP was always going to be free, so it counts for nothing. Free MP increases the chances of people getting everything, which increases the number of people playing it, which means that there is going to be a larger pool of people who might potentially purchase weapon packs with real money. I've seen people boasting about purchasing $100 bucks worth of that cr*p here on the forums. (I can't make this stuff up!) It's called micro-transactions, and EA is infamous for them. You should be aware that EA's CEO, John Riccitiello, is (among other things) infamous for his statement to shareholders about potentially having a pop-up window when the player runs out of ammo. The pop-up window is asking if they'd like to pay real money for some more ammo, and he said that people aren't really thinking that critically at that juncture and are more likely to accept. So 'free' MP DLC to lure people in is EXACTLY up EA's alley. They actually make more this way than they would charging for it. So no, it counts for exactly nothing.

The basic MP  was going to be free but it's highly unlikely that ALL  of the add-ons they made were also going to be free. They've basically doubled the total maps, added a new enemy and doubled the number of guys you can play.

I know what a microtransaction is and I don't see why the PC community whines so much about it. Spend your money or don't and earn it old fashioned style. Not everyone has a wife and kids like i do so maybe not everyone wants to invest 500 hrs into getting good stuff like I do. I'm perfectly ok with that.

You can jump down EA's throat all you want over microtransactions but it was Valve that made it popular.

Reth Shepherd wrote...
The EC was free, true. HOWEVER! We know from Twitter statements (I will be happy to link, if you want proof) that something along those lines was always in the works and that planned DLCs got "reordered". Are you aware of the Puzzle Theory? The one that said that if all DLCs were purchased, that the 'true' ending would be revealed? Sadly untrue. BUT it is entirely possible that Bioware did actually have something along those lines planned, and that the reward was meant to be the EC. (Most likely the pretty pictures, with most of the altered dialogue originally being aimed at other DLCS, such as Levi.) So the EC being free also counts for nothing. (Not to mention that it did exactly nothing about the biggest issue with the ending: namely Starbrat and his three choices.) Other than that, I don't really see anything that Bioware's done to try and make up for things. Can you give some examples, please?

The EC counts for listening to their fans and righting some of the issues the end had. You say it counts for nothing because of a garbage excuse about how you heard they had something in the works...whut?  You seem to have a self-serving bias where you constantly down what Bioware did post-release.

Reth Shepherd wrote...
To use the restaurant example: I went there, had a decent (NOT great, but decent) meal, and then got food poisoning from the last course. Then had the restaurant refuse to give me my money back and tell me it was my problem I got sick. Am I going to remember that the salad was all right? Or will I remember more that I was throwing my guts up afterwards? Because yeah, that ending was a HEAVY emotional sucker-punch to the stomach. To this day I cannot touch ANY of the trilogy. That ten minutes ruined it THAT thoroughly.

LoL you guys are so melodramatic. When you equate a bad ending with food poisoning, you're whining. Quit playing the victim

Reth Shepherd wrote...
And to this day, I can't figure out why Bioware is so dead-set against adding one or more alternative endings. RGB can remain as it is if they are so determined to have it there. But what is the big issue with ADDING more options?! What exactly will that hurt?

Not that I'm saying ME 3 is a literally masterpiece but imagine how many masterpieces would have been ruined if we adhered to your thinking. Why did Romeo and Juliet have to die? Why did Oedipus have to pick his mom? Why did a whole group have to die to save 1 private Ryan? Why does Superman/Spiderman/Batman/etc have to die? 

So for you,  we see what it all boils down to. You're Kathy Bates in Misery. You can't have your way. The hero can't ride off into the sunset. You can't handle it. And while back in March 2012 I would have loved for ME 3 to have been released with a singular option for Shepard to live if you played the perfect trilogy, I can live with the breath scene b/c I know where it leads. You sir, need to stop being obsessed.

I agree with all of your counter arguments but the last. When you're at a restaurant, you don't pay before you get your food, but after. If the food was terrible, and it did make you sick, you'd have every right to say "No, I'm not paying.". Enough with the semantics though. I do agree that the idea that bioware is so against having a good ending is just rediculous.

And don't say that it's "Their" story, it's their "Characters" because from the very beginning it's been our "Story" and our "characters". To quote Jeremy loosely, "To say shepard has to do anything goes against everything that mass effect stood for". Each game, up ntil this point, while having a difinitive ending, had so many veriables that made them feel so much different. Take mass effect 2 for examble. You can have everyone die, including shepard and that's the end of your triolgy run. Or you can have everyone survive. Or any variable there and between and it would of affected ME3 in some way. However this is the end of shepards story, so why can't we get that one ending with shepard and garrus sitting on a beach, or Javik either killing himself where he killed his crew, or living with the hanar, or Liara continuiong her shadow broker shananingans. Or (this would be my favorite part of my ending) Tali and sheard on Rannoch, with shepard building her a home.

Why is THAT so impossible? Why are they so against THAT? You don't need dialog to make something emotional and epic.

Edit: Don't get me wrong, I like the endings as they are, but I would of preferred the OPTION of a good ending.
OT - I'm fracking pumped for this DLC.

Modifié par Jull3, 15 février 2013 - 07:20 .

[Funkdrspot]

RedBeardJim wrote...

Zaizer wrote...

To answer the fixing thing Reth:
Leviathan was use to "fix" the ending with a gigantic info dump about the reapers and their origin. It was more so pulling a band-aid on the whole thing then anything else. I still enjoyed Leviathan, but man the last bit of it felt like, well, a band-aid trying to cover a grievous wound.

This was my big beef with Leviathan as well. Essential backstory like that should be part of the actual game, not something you have to pay extra for.

for me, DLC couldnt be any otherway.im not paying money for a throwaway mission a year after the game came out, but i will instantly think about it if it ties into the story. im almost certain to buy it if it expands the core storyline. 

[Rip504]

So no new news?

[Funkdrspot]

CoolioThane wrote...

Anyone else laugh at: they stiffed us, then they blew us... :3

lol great catch.i literally lol'd at work

[dreamgazer]

Rip504 wrote...

So no new news?

Priestly might talk about it next week, and they're apparently folding a good amount of fan feedback into this DLC.

[Optimus J]

dreamgazer wrote...

Rip504 wrote...

So no new news?

Priestly might talk about it next week, and they're apparently folding a good amount of fan feedback into this DLC.

Priestly have tried for long to drop a hint on how Bioware takes feedback. If it's on their plans, they say they already thought about that. If it's not on their plans they simply pretend it was ever spoken.

It's their way, they have a plan and don't allow anything to change the course of the said plan. Not even bankruptcy. They will keep sticking to that, and try to circumvent the circumstances by selling digital art prints or pretend-porcelain half-meter models of Normandy for way more than they cost.

Back on the track, I'm curious if Priestly tested any new DREAM SEQUENCES inserted in the middle of game, at this DLC.

[Uncle Jo]

dreamgazer wrote...

Rip504 wrote...

So no new news?

Priestly might talk about it next week, and they're apparently folding a good amount of fan feedback into this DLC.

I can't  trust someone who talks more enigmatically than the Sphinx itself.

[2484Stryker]

Honestly, after Omega and all the hype and promo it received, I'm finding it difficult to get excited about this last piece of DLC. Most likely it'll be more run-&-gun, shoot 'em-up gameplay plus a temporary squadmate that I won't care about at all. Except maybe this time there will be better music to go along with it and a few more gigantic explosions to please the CoD crowd. *yawn*

[Nightwriter]

MattFini wrote...

Have people's thoughts/attitude changed towards this next DLC?

Still hyped? Abandoned hope? Pessimistic? Optimistic?

Curious to hear where everyone is as we'll likely know more next week.

I'm still...excited.

If this is indeed the last DLC, it's the last chance for the ME2 characters. So I'm feeling pretty gloomy right now. Hopes are not high.

[Ieldra]

SamFisher3000 wrote...
Bioware says they listened to fan feedback and we will see that in the next DLC. What do you think we will get after all? I hope for Harbinger and collectors, but a Casino? Maybe we will meet DJ Harbinger after all...

I can't believe how fickle this fanbase is. Back when ME2 came out, everyone laughed at Harbinger, and with good reason. Now everony wants him back? What the hell happened? Is it just that Harbinger doesn't look so bad compared with the Catalyst?

As for listening, they listen to constructive feedback that isn't based on insane expectations and makes at least a little sense in the context of what already exists. Adding more Harbinger just because, with no regard to how it would fit into the story, would not be satisfying. 

Personally, I don't care about Harbinger at all. I'd rather have more content with the ME2 team members. Though fitting that in sounds challenging, so I have my doubts about getting it.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 16 février 2013 - 10:24 .

[wright1978]

Nightwriter wrote...

MattFini wrote...

Have people's thoughts/attitude changed towards this next DLC?

Still hyped? Abandoned hope? Pessimistic? Optimistic?

Curious to hear where everyone is as we'll likely know more next week.

I'm still...excited.

If this is indeed the last DLC, it's the last chance for the ME2 characters. So I'm feeling pretty gloomy right now. Hopes are not high.

Yep

[Plutar]

alsonamedbort wrote...

Food poisoning = you get sick no matter what, it's a fact. The food made you sick.

When first I saw this line, I thought you were posting some leaked DLC plot details.
BACK TO THE CITADEL BATHROOM WE GO

[WindfishDude]

Ieldra2 wrote...

SamFisher3000 wrote...
Bioware says they listened to fan feedback and we will see that in the next DLC. What do you think we will get after all? I hope for Harbinger and collectors, but a Casino? Maybe we will meet DJ Harbinger after all...

I can't believe how fickle this fanbase is. Back when ME2 came out, everyone laughed at Harbinger, and with good reason. Now everony wants him back? What the hell happened? Is it just that Harbinger doesn't look so bad compared with the Catalyst?

As for listening, they listen to constructive feedback that isn't based on insane expectations and makes at least a little sense in the context of what already exists. Adding more Harbinger just because, with no regard to how it would fit into the story, would not be satisfying. 

Personally, I don't care about Harbinger at all. I'd rather have more content with the ME2 team members. Though fitting that in sounds challenging, so I have my doubts about getting it.

Because most of us wants a conclusion to an antagonist who was taunting us throughout an entire game and was last seen as a giant hologram in the sky, telling us that he was coming for us.

We want(ed) a resolution to that build-up. It never came. Awful story- telling...

[abch4]

2484Stryker wrote...

Honestly, after Omega and all the hype and promo it received, I'm finding it difficult to get excited about this last piece of DLC. Most likely it'll be more run-&-gun, shoot 'em-up gameplay plus a temporary squadmate that I won't care about at all. Except maybe this time there will be better music to go along with it and a few more gigantic explosions to please the CoD crowd. *yawn*

*yawn* you make me sleepy *yawwwwwwwwwwn*


I liked Omega, didn't think it was aiming at the cod crowd whatsoever. Are you just saying that because it uses guns on a linear path "which every mass effect mission has done" or because you're butthurt?

[ruggly]

CronoDragoon wrote...
Well, I am as excited as I usually am for BioWare DLC. The issue I'm having right now is that without any info, and without any clear story thread in ME3 that could be tied up in DLC, my excitement is kinda based around the fact that this is the last ME3 DLC, and that therefore I expect them to make it epic. That can be problematic because then when the DLC comes out I am sort of evaluating it based on something other than what it is.

So I'm trying not to get too hyped because "it's the last DLC" so that I can absorb whatever they give us on its own merits.

this sums up how I feel pretty well.

[Wayning_Star]

folks's resigning to Shepards resignation from ME. Sad, but there it is...

Well, the hush hush on the DLC could be a good sign..maybe, Fans notwithstanding.

(boware isn't dragging feet, Fans are merely tapping theirs..to the tune?)

[cyrslash1974]

http://www.reddit.co...ls_mass_effect/

Fake ?

[L2 Sentinel]

Chris Priestly wrote...

 Fake. It's a combination of the name seen in the released screen and incorrect guesswork.


LOCKDOWN!

[Andrew Waples]

cyrslash1974 wrote...

http://www.reddit.co...ls_mass_effect/

Fake 

[cyrslash1974]

Ok noted.

Thanks !