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[ValorOfArms777]

Ultimate335 wrote...

jvaz wrote...

I can take down a groups of mobs in two explosions (if shielded) or one explosion if unshielded. Bosses I can take down in a DC cast and Biotic Explosions. I have like a crapload of adrenaline mods and warp ammos. You havent seen a Fury until you seen one moving 50% faster (well really 45%) and enemies not being able to hit you. Besides if I wanted to use a weapon I would use a weapons class to do better damage anyway.

Very true.

But the goal is to solo gold, I don't want a 2 1/2 hour solo :-)

this probability is harder...you're asking for a "gold solo" with a squitastic class....you're goign to be taking a LONG time doing it period... <_<

[Ultimate335]

Original Stikman wrote...

jvaz wrote...

I can take down a groups of mobs in two explosions (if shielded) or one explosion if unshielded. Bosses I can take down in a DC cast and Biotic Explosions. I have like a crapload of adrenaline mods and warp ammos. You havent seen a Fury until you seen one moving 50% faster (well really 45%) and enemies not being able to hit you. Besides if I wanted to use a weapon I would use a weapons class to do better damage anyway.

send me a FR, would love to see how it works on platinum. I am doubtful, but willing to see.

Personally, i'd preffer to BE then just shoot the enemy rather than use two explosions, but if you are certain that I haven't seen a true fury, im open to seeing it.

Demonstration is better than conversation. I down with this as well! I would love to go into platinum with a team of N7 Furys to show me how to get it done!

That would be great! I'm open to the idea.

[jvaz]

Original Stikman wrote...

jvaz wrote...

I can take down a groups of mobs in two explosions (if shielded) or one explosion if unshielded. Bosses I can take down in a DC cast and Biotic Explosions. I have like a crapload of adrenaline mods and warp ammos. You havent seen a Fury until you seen one moving 50% faster (well really 45%) and enemies not being able to hit you. Besides if I wanted to use a weapon I would use a weapons class to do better damage anyway.

send me a FR, would love to see how it works on platinum. I am doubtful, but willing to see.

Personally, i'd preffer to BE then just shoot the enemy rather than use two explosions, but if you are certain that I haven't seen a true fury, im open to seeing it.

Are you on XBOX? I would have to host.  I only play Fury when I'm hosting. 

[Ultimate335]

NuclearTech76 wrote...

noeschi wrote...

u really think there's so much difference between 700 and 825 shields?

Yeah the basic collector trooper deals 126 damage per shot on platinum and uses 7-9 rounds per burst. You're hitting shield gate regardless here.

Well.... I guess I'll stay at 6/6/6/4/4 then.

[jakenou]

Ultimate335 wrote...

jkthunder wrote...

Not sure how you specced her powers, but I suggest keeping them all at 6 (AF, DC and throw), or if you want to skimp on one of the three, then maybe put less into throw (although I do see people skimping on DC as well). 6,6,6,4,4 is a good standard build. DC is much more important in late waves of gold+ than the other powers IMO. Use the drain evo of AF to your advantage. Play her some more, maybe with different gear combos, and practice that dodge and light melee karate!

Impact Radius, Movement Speed, Drain.

Duration, Recharge Speed, Pierce.

Radius, Recharge Combo, Recharge Speed.

Damage & Capacity.

Durability.


Pretty standard.

This is also pretty standard and will deal more damage (imo of course) (throw evo 6 can go either way for me) - http://narida.pytalh...ulticapacitor5/

Gear and armor bonus are also just a suggestion (also like Shield Power Cells and Adaptive War Amp, but SPC's and Cyclonics seem to elude me sometimes). She's still pretty speedy without the AF evo 5b. Just gotta keep on the move with dodge and always zigzagging if running in the open.

Modifié par jkthunder, 28 janvier 2013 - 08:06 .

[Original Twigman]

jvaz wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

jvaz wrote...

I can take down a groups of mobs in two explosions (if shielded) or one explosion if unshielded. Bosses I can take down in a DC cast and Biotic Explosions. I have like a crapload of adrenaline mods and warp ammos. You havent seen a Fury until you seen one moving 50% faster (well really 45%) and enemies not being able to hit you. Besides if I wanted to use a weapon I would use a weapons class to do better damage anyway.

send me a FR, would love to see how it works on platinum. I am doubtful, but willing to see.

Personally, i'd preffer to BE then just shoot the enemy rather than use two explosions, but if you are certain that I haven't seen a true fury, im open to seeing it.

Are you on XBOX? I would have to host.  I only play Fury when I'm hosting. 

yes, i am. GT in sig. I'll be on tomorrow. If they release the DLC tomorrow though we'll have to reschedule.

Hosting is fine. with 1600 hrs played (triple mine), i'm really hoping you don't dissapoint

we'll do U/U/P

[Ultimate335]

Shyde01 wrote...

She was my 'go to' kit for gold+ early on. I went 6/6/6/0/6, shield restore on BE. I ran her with a Scorpion X for the stagger between BEs. Gear was shield booster.

http://narida.pytalh...ShieldBooster5/

Dark channel is critical: it's your long range boss killer and BE primer. Don't gimp any of your BEs - they are your primary damage mode. Throw, AF and DC should all be at 6. (Since BE damage is determined solely by combined power level (1-6) fo the primer & detonator, and any explicit BE bonus in a power evo, rather than passive power increases, you're less concerned with passives on her.)

Running her with less than 6 in throw/DC/AF is probably gold+ viable - a good player can make most kit evos viable - but starting out, I wouldn't recommend it. Imo.

Some people bring the acolyte, which strips shields; but I preferred to steal with a BE, since I would usually lose some of my own shields closing with enemies. Personal preference. The scorpion was good to stagger harder mooks long enough to set up a BE.

If you're concerned about health, bring along a cyclonic. Even a level 1 cyclonic will get you 1125 with the above spec. If you're getting downed with that setup, you might be charging too directly and/or not dodging enough; try to flank enemies, run/dodge from cover to cover before charging in (to conserve shields) or ensure that you're about to BE among a shielded mook (shield restore .

Don't get discouraged. And have fun.

Thanks for the info. I am having fun, just want to get better with her.

Also the dodge has a slight delay it seems, it's not instant. If a Brute is charging me it will acually stager me mid dodge!

[Original Twigman]

Ultimate335 wrote...

Shyde01 wrote...

She was my 'go to' kit for gold+ early on. I went 6/6/6/0/6, shield restore on BE. I ran her with a Scorpion X for the stagger between BEs. Gear was shield booster.

http://narida.pytalh...ShieldBooster5/

Dark channel is critical: it's your long range boss killer and BE primer. Don't gimp any of your BEs - they are your primary damage mode. Throw, AF and DC should all be at 6. (Since BE damage is determined solely by combined power level (1-6) fo the primer & detonator, and any explicit BE bonus in a power evo, rather than passive power increases, you're less concerned with passives on her.)

Running her with less than 6 in throw/DC/AF is probably gold+ viable - a good player can make most kit evos viable - but starting out, I wouldn't recommend it. Imo.

Some people bring the acolyte, which strips shields; but I preferred to steal with a BE, since I would usually lose some of my own shields closing with enemies. Personal preference. The scorpion was good to stagger harder mooks long enough to set up a BE.

If you're concerned about health, bring along a cyclonic. Even a level 1 cyclonic will get you 1125 with the above spec. If you're getting downed with that setup, you might be charging too directly and/or not dodging enough; try to flank enemies, run/dodge from cover to cover before charging in (to conserve shields) or ensure that you're about to BE among a shielded mook (shield restore .

Don't get discouraged. And have fun.

Thanks for the info. I am having fun, just want to get better with her.

Also the dodge has a slight delay it seems, it's not instant. If a Brute is charging me it will acually stager me mid dodge!

tip: don't side step to dodge, side step to move around CQC enemies; you';ll dodge attacks naturally

Currently trying a sub 20 min gold solo with her... fyi...

stuck on wave 8 and figuring out a strategy to eliminate the enemies quick enough.

[Baby Quarian]

 I've been using her a lot now, and the build I use is 6/6/6/5/3. With a shield gear on, and biotic rounds, she is the most deadly thing ever. I like dark channel because I can throw it on a phantom in platinum, and she will die later, without putting shots into her. 6 in throw is needed if you want that extra biotic strength in your explosions. AF is perfect for through the wall damage, or biotic rounds since it preps the enemies for explosions. 

[jakenou]

Ultimate335 wrote...
Thanks for the info. I am having fun, just want to get better with her.

Also the dodge has a slight delay it seems, it's not instant. If a Brute is charging me it will acually stager me mid dodge!

This happens sometimes, and with most chars afaik. Gotta start dodging right when the brute is pausing to wind up for it's charge and not after he's already initiated it. Unless you have perfect latency all the time, you'll usually get hit if you haven't started to dodge early.

[Ultimate335]

Original Stikman wrote...

jvaz wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

jvaz wrote...

I can take down a groups of mobs in two explosions (if shielded) or one explosion if unshielded. Bosses I can take down in a DC cast and Biotic Explosions. I have like a crapload of adrenaline mods and warp ammos. You havent seen a Fury until you seen one moving 50% faster (well really 45%) and enemies not being able to hit you. Besides if I wanted to use a weapon I would use a weapons class to do better damage anyway.

send me a FR, would love to see how it works on platinum. I am doubtful, but willing to see.

Personally, i'd preffer to BE then just shoot the enemy rather than use two explosions, but if you are certain that I haven't seen a true fury, im open to seeing it.

Are you on XBOX? I would have to host.  I only play Fury when I'm hosting. 

yes, i am. GT in sig. I'll be on tomorrow. If they release the DLC tomorrow though we'll have to reschedule.

Hosting is fine. with 1600 hrs played (triple mine), i'm really hoping you don't dissapoint

we'll do U/U/P

I'm on everyday after work (PT 6:00pm - 8:00pm) Weekends longer. If you see me online and your about to start invite me as well. I play PUG 95% of time due to it's just quicker to play and I don't see many furys being played.

[Deerber]

Didn't read through the comments, so sorry if it's been already said.

A power amplifier IV will not change the damage of your BEs, which are your main source of damage. Unless you use the Fury as a DC-platform (then you should learn not to do that), every gear/equipment that improves your powers damage is... Not truly worth it.

So, you should take your cyclonic back. It gives you so much more survivability. Or if you're good enough, you could slap an adrenaline module III. It also improves your survivability tenfold, but in a different way.

As for the build, 6/6/6/4/4 is definitely solid. I wouldn't lower DC to raise fitness, because 1) there are always situations in which is not very... Smart to get up and close with a fury. Staying a bit far and using DC + throw is what you should do in those situations, and dropping DC would result in lower damage from these BEs. And 2) a what is it? 30% base shield more? Won't change much, on higher difficulties.

I run her 6/6/6/6/0 and, with a cyclonic equipped, I see no difference whatsoever from a 6/6/6/6/4 with a cyclonic. Not advicing you to skip fitness, just saying... 30% base shield ain't much.



But the truth is, the best advice anyone can give you on the fury...

Host. Fury loses a lot off-host.

Modifié par Deerber, 28 janvier 2013 - 08:15 .

[Ultimate335]

Baby Quarian wrote...

 I've been using her a lot now, and the build I use is 6/6/6/5/3. With a shield gear on, and biotic rounds, she is the most deadly thing ever. I like dark channel because I can throw it on a phantom in platinum, and she will die later, without putting shots into her. 6 in throw is needed if you want that extra biotic strength in your explosions. AF is perfect for through the wall damage, or biotic rounds since it preps the enemies for explosions. 

The Fury is all I'm going to play until I'm confident in my abilities, which my be awhile. I just don't see poeple with Furys that much, just the usual suspects that you see over and over.

[Shyde01]

Yeah, lag does affect her teleport dodge a bit, but it's usually manageable. I learned to dodge earlier rather than later on brutes. My favorite trick was to turn sideways to them as they charged, then dodge sideways; you end up behind them for a nice BE into their fat backsides. In fact, 2-4 consecutive sideways teleport dodges is a good way to traverse the map if you need to escape quickly.

I'm sure you mastered the rapid-fire "sprint forward, throw for BE, then back dodge; repeat until dead boss" trick. Another fine Fury move.

[Original Twigman]

Ultimate335 wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

jvaz wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

jvaz wrote...

I can take down a groups of mobs in two explosions (if shielded) or one explosion if unshielded. Bosses I can take down in a DC cast and Biotic Explosions. I have like a crapload of adrenaline mods and warp ammos. You havent seen a Fury until you seen one moving 50% faster (well really 45%) and enemies not being able to hit you. Besides if I wanted to use a weapon I would use a weapons class to do better damage anyway.

send me a FR, would love to see how it works on platinum. I am doubtful, but willing to see.

Personally, i'd preffer to BE then just shoot the enemy rather than use two explosions, but if you are certain that I haven't seen a true fury, im open to seeing it.

Are you on XBOX? I would have to host.  I only play Fury when I'm hosting. 

yes, i am. GT in sig. I'll be on tomorrow. If they release the DLC tomorrow though we'll have to reschedule.

Hosting is fine. with 1600 hrs played (triple mine), i'm really hoping you don't dissapoint

we'll do U/U/P

I'm on everyday after work (PT 6:00pm - 8:00pm) Weekends longer. If you see me online and your about to start invite me as well. I play PUG 95% of time due to it's just quicker to play and I don't see many furys being played.

maybe. I mostly just want to see how he does with it. We can play another match, but I want to see him play it first. 4 furys (or 3) is too much to gauge if something is working.

[Ultimate335]

Deerber wrote...

Didn't read through the comments, so sorry if it's been already said.

A power amplifier IV will not change the damage of your BEs, which are your main source of damage. Unless you use the Fury as a DC-platform (then you should learn not to do that), every gear/equipment that improves your powers damage is... Not truly worth it.

So, you should take your cyclonic back. It gives you so much more survivability. Or if you're good enough, you could slap an adrenaline module III. It also improves your survivability tenfold, but in a different way.

As for the build, 6/6/6/4/4 is definitely solid. I wouldn't lower DC to raise fitness, because 1) there are always situations in which is not very... Smart to get up and close with a fury. Staying a bit far and using DC + throw is what you should do in those situations, and dropping DC would result in lower damage from these BEs. And 2) a what is it? 30% base shield more? Won't change much, on higher difficulties.

I run her 6/6/6/6/0 and, with a cyclonic equipped, I see no difference whatsoever from a 6/6/6/6/4 with a cyclonic. Not advicing you to skip fitness, just saying... 30% base shield ain't much.



But the truth is, the best advice anyone can give you on the fury...

Host. Fury loses a lot off-host.

Thanks for your imput, but I'll stay with 6/6/6/4/4. Not sure to keep the Cyclonic though.

[NuclearTech76]

Original Stikman wrote...

jvaz wrote...

I can take down a groups of mobs in two explosions (if shielded) or one explosion if unshielded. Bosses I can take down in a DC cast and Biotic Explosions. I have like a crapload of adrenaline mods and warp ammos. You havent seen a Fury until you seen one moving 50% faster (well really 45%) and enemies not being able to hit you. Besides if I wanted to use a weapon I would use a weapons class to do better damage anyway.

send me a FR, would love to see how it works on platinum. I am doubtful, but willing to see.

Personally, i'd preffer to BE then just shoot the enemy rather than use two explosions, but if you are certain that I haven't seen a true fury, im open to seeing it.

I know you know this already cause I've played with you some but it bears spelling out for some reading the thread. Warp ammo will not give you increased damage after the BE unless you reprime the target. I prime, shoot till nearly dead, then BE for AOE damage to finish.

[TheThirdRace]

There's 2 way to use the Fury: the "Pure Adept" way and the "Weapon Adept" way (aka N7-Link way...). Honestly, both are really good, but I prefer to focus on powers with my Fury instead of focusing on weapons.

So what you need is this build.

The strategy is simple and dominate from Bronze to Platinum...

At the beginning of each round, you recast Anihilation Field to avoid charging an enemy just to find out AF stopped and you firing blanks...

When you see a non-boss enemy, you charge him. DO NOT FIRE THE ACOLYTE, wait until AF prime the target. As soon as AF prime the target, you release the Acolyte shot and use Throw just after that. The reason is simple, the Drain evolution (AF's evo 6) don't care about what cause the damage to shield. As long as you're in priming distance, the damage to shield will be drained. Since the Acolyte strip the shield completely on everything from Husk to Phantoms even on Platinum, when you use Throw afterward you obliterate the enemy's health and you resplenish your shield completely. This strategy will allow you to run into groups of enemies and kill them almost instantly while keeping full health and shield.... you can't beat that...

For bosses, use Dark Channel first then AF + Throw. Since AF doesn't prime twice the same target unless you move out of the way, do the "circle dance" and you'll be fine.

When closing in is harder to pull off, use DC + Throw to stagger the enemy and give you the opportunity to close in. DC is extremely usefull for range Biotic Explosions, take advantage of that and you'll be a killing machine.

Last but not least, HOST the game, it makes the whole difference between a full health/shield Fury and a dead Fury.

Edit: Passives aren't necessary at all. It doesn't give you any good buff. All your powers do little damage, especially Throw, meaning that a 50% damage boost on powers is just ridiculous. Your power will come from BEs and the fact that all health/shield enemies will melt in front of you.

Modifié par TheThirdRace, 28 janvier 2013 - 08:32 .

[Ultimate335]

Original Stikman wrote...

Ultimate335 wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

jvaz wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

jvaz wrote...

I can take down a groups of mobs in two explosions (if shielded) or one explosion if unshielded. Bosses I can take down in a DC cast and Biotic Explosions. I have like a crapload of adrenaline mods and warp ammos. You havent seen a Fury until you seen one moving 50% faster (well really 45%) and enemies not being able to hit you. Besides if I wanted to use a weapon I would use a weapons class to do better damage anyway.

send me a FR, would love to see how it works on platinum. I am doubtful, but willing to see.

Personally, i'd preffer to BE then just shoot the enemy rather than use two explosions, but if you are certain that I haven't seen a true fury, im open to seeing it.

Are you on XBOX? I would have to host.  I only play Fury when I'm hosting. 

yes, i am. GT in sig. I'll be on tomorrow. If they release the DLC tomorrow though we'll have to reschedule.

Hosting is fine. with 1600 hrs played (triple mine), i'm really hoping you don't dissapoint

we'll do U/U/P

I'm on everyday after work (PT 6:00pm - 8:00pm) Weekends longer. If you see me online and your about to start invite me as well. I play PUG 95% of time due to it's just quicker to play and I don't see many furys being played.

maybe. I mostly just want to see how he does with it. We can play another match, but I want to see him play it first. 4 furys (or 3) is too much to gauge if something is working.

I think the point is to play with someone with skills, dosen't matter who. Hard to gage my own skill when there is no one to base it off of, and videos don't count. I need a N7 Fury network of skilled players.

[Deerber]

Ultimate335 wrote...

Thanks for your imput, but I'll stay with 6/6/6/4/4. Not sure to keep the Cyclonic though.

Staying 6/6/6/4/4 is perfectly fine. I'm kind of a hipster to run her no fitness, I guess. But trust me, you want the cyclonic. Or the adrenaline at most. Not the power amplifier, not.

Ultimate335 wrote...

I think the point is to play with someone with skills, dosen't matter who. Hard to gage my own skill when there is no one to base it off of, and videos don't count. I need a N7 Fury network of skilled players.

Uhm... That's strange. As far as myself goes, I learn a lot more from PoV videos of skilled players than from playing with them. That way I can see what they see, and try to understand why they do what they do. Isn't the same for you?

Anyway, I'm not really playing that much nowadays, but if you're on PC you can add me (ID is the same as here) and we can try to get a match together as well, I might try to show you a little bit how to use her effectively. I'm not the best fury player around, but I'm not that bad with her either :happy:


Nevermind, I just realized you're xbox.

Modifié par Deerber, 28 janvier 2013 - 08:34 .

[Original Twigman]

NuclearTech76 wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

jvaz wrote...

I can take down a groups of mobs in two explosions (if shielded) or one explosion if unshielded. Bosses I can take down in a DC cast and Biotic Explosions. I have like a crapload of adrenaline mods and warp ammos. You havent seen a Fury until you seen one moving 50% faster (well really 45%) and enemies not being able to hit you. Besides if I wanted to use a weapon I would use a weapons class to do better damage anyway.

send me a FR, would love to see how it works on platinum. I am doubtful, but willing to see.

Personally, i'd preffer to BE then just shoot the enemy rather than use two explosions, but if you are certain that I haven't seen a true fury, im open to seeing it.

I know you know this already cause I've played with you some but it bears spelling out for some reading the thread. Warp ammo will not give you increased damage after the BE unless you reprime the target. I prime, shoot till nearly dead, then BE for AOE damage to finish.

good point. Yes, this is critical. Thats the only reason why I'll use DC is just to prime and shoot shields (since biotics are terrible against them) + thats where the extra weapon damage really helps (160% + 20% = yes (or whatever the passive number is))

[Original Twigman]

Ultimate335 wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

Ultimate335 wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

jvaz wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

jvaz wrote...

I can take down a groups of mobs in two explosions (if shielded) or one explosion if unshielded. Bosses I can take down in a DC cast and Biotic Explosions. I have like a crapload of adrenaline mods and warp ammos. You havent seen a Fury until you seen one moving 50% faster (well really 45%) and enemies not being able to hit you. Besides if I wanted to use a weapon I would use a weapons class to do better damage anyway.

send me a FR, would love to see how it works on platinum. I am doubtful, but willing to see.

Personally, i'd preffer to BE then just shoot the enemy rather than use two explosions, but if you are certain that I haven't seen a true fury, im open to seeing it.

Are you on XBOX? I would have to host.  I only play Fury when I'm hosting. 

yes, i am. GT in sig. I'll be on tomorrow. If they release the DLC tomorrow though we'll have to reschedule.

Hosting is fine. with 1600 hrs played (triple mine), i'm really hoping you don't dissapoint

we'll do U/U/P

I'm on everyday after work (PT 6:00pm - 8:00pm) Weekends longer. If you see me online and your about to start invite me as well. I play PUG 95% of time due to it's just quicker to play and I don't see many furys being played.

maybe. I mostly just want to see how he does with it. We can play another match, but I want to see him play it first. 4 furys (or 3) is too much to gauge if something is working.

I think the point is to play with someone with skills, dosen't matter who. Hard to gage my own skill when there is no one to base it off of, and videos don't count. I need a N7 Fury network of skilled players.

thats fine, feel free to add.

[Daihannya]

Just watch this:  social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/343/index/15409683

Link will teach you much.

I run a diffrent varriant 66644 build with AF movement bonus and enhance speed with adrenaline mods.  I use to run the 66653 builds, but laggy games when not hosting has reverted me back to 66644.  If you host alot, you can get away with less shields.   

[JKrapek]

66653 works for me, works great on gold. Stay close to a group and get DC out, then throw as it jumps from dead mook to dead mook. If you need to break a flank, charge in and use some AF, then throw to detonate.

Use the great dodge and heavy melee to move through walls to escape. It's a hit-and-run class if you want to play it safe. Also great at the back of groups, throw-spamming when you see the DC prime, think biotic artillery.

But I did see some biotic god break 200k on gold, charging in like a raging krogan. There are several viable play styles.

[Serker31]

I prefer non-passive build with Talon, and use Cyclonic every time. Relying on Drain evo to stay alive is good, once you learn when you can rely on it. Other than that, it is get-close-and-boom routine, with abusing soft cover and chain-exploding AF with "dancing" at the edge of its range. Very fun and rewarding kit.