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[TurianRebel212]

fainmaca wrote...

TurianRebel212 wrote...

All Bioware had to do, in my opinion, was show our war assets in action and show a reunion for the destroy option with high EMS. That's it. But they seem to want to destroy the series. 

I don't know... seems to me as though the team wanted to torch and run, so to speak. Maybe the transfer of responsibility for ME4 to the MP team (Montreal, I think?), wasn't an internal decision by the Bioware people. maybe it was a choice that filtered down from on high.

I mean, changing the ending to show just these few small things would probably have been... okay, at least. and not all that work-intensive (No more so than what we got, anyway). It all kind of smacks of the ME team getting tired of the franchise and trying to leave it in a state where nobody can come along and continue to build onto it without going back into prequel/sidequel territory.

*Dons tinfoil hat*

I've thought of that to. It sucks. Just sucks. 

Thanks for reply. 

[fainmaca]

Meltemph wrote...

Nothing wrong with a dark ending, and isnt the issue with the ending if you care about the MEU as a whole. The problem with the ending is, it killed the setting, unless it reboots or is retconed.

I don't think it's so ridiculous to want a uplifting ending.

Wanting a "uplifting" ending is one thing, thinking the story needs it to be good is another. The ending isnt bad because it is dark... To be frank, if you trivialize it to something so shallow, it makes the ending not seem as bad as it actually was.

I agree. Dark endings are not bad endings. however, the story definately needs to call for a dark ending to merit having one. This usually means having a tragically flawed protagonist (I'm sure there can be exceptions, but I can't think of many).

I mean, if you look at Saren's tale (not ME1 as a whole, just consider Saren's life as a standalone story), there you have a good, tragically flawed protagonist (out for the benefits of the species they represent, with the Council as a whole and Turians in particular), where his ultimate motivation is his downfall, leading to the dark ending he gets where he commits suicide or is slain by a hero who rises in his place (a good example of living long enough to see yourself become the villain).

By the same measure, Shepard wasn't necessarily a flawed protagonist. The whole point of the series was that we could shape him/her in a way we desired, and that means having a dark ending at the termination of every single pathway taken breaks the narrative. Sure, some Shepards needed a dark ending to a Shepard they played as flawed (maybe the xenophobic ones who empower Humanity at every turn, or the relentlessly self-sacrificing ones), but there also needed to be room for a thematically uplifitng ending.

And there's the ultimate failure of ME3 as a whole and the ending in particular- there's no variety to the tone we get. Our myriad different pathways all lead to the same endings: dark, dark or dark. Or, if you download the EC, you can also choose dark with a slice of f**k you.

I don't want ME3 to end all sunshine and bunnies. I just wanted an experience that had the room for endings varying from 'We did it!' to 'We done f**ked up.' As it is, we're only left questioning whether we really won or not. There's no certain feeling of victory or failure.

[Dieb]

Yay, another seperate thread on pointless negativity.

But then again, if they would remove every thread that either suggest further issues with the endings or how a DLC is not what some people wanted, this board would only be discussing how asari procreate exactly.

Counter-question: How do you get excited over two pictures showing basically nothing of substance?

Modifié par Baelrahn, 29 janvier 2013 - 12:45 .

[TheProtheans]

Yes, nothing remotely interesting.

[fainmaca]

But back on topic:

The teaser isn't really anything much. Hardly anything to excite all but the most eager for something ME-related. At the same time, its not anything to cause anxiety either.

I figure Bioware are simply playing it safe. They want to show something, but can't afford to fuel the hype-train too much. Doing that in the past has led to outcry when what arrived didn't measure up.

In fact, I'm not picking up much enthusiasm for this latest offering from the devs.

I agree that the Krogan image is probably MP-related. Maybe a new class or something. Either way, I'm not fussed as I don't play MP anyway. As for the other image, its certainly colourful, but I wouldn't expect it to be a permanent hub location. If they were going to introduce a hub in DLC, they would have done so with Omega. I'd say it'll serve as a central location for the missions you buy, nothing more.

And as for Wrex- take a look at the ME artbook (the one released just before ME3). In the section about the Normandy, there's a piece of concept art of the CIC with Jack, Thane, Mordin, and a couple of others I don't recall all gathered around looking at the display. Most of the characters in that image (probably all except for Mordin) never even set foot on the Normandy in ME3. BW will not bring back Wrex in a meaningful manner if he can be dead in so many playthroughs. Not in a DLC. If they won't do it for possibly dead characters from ME2, its unlikely they'll do it for him. Maybe if they hire his VA for another role in the DLC, too, but even then its unlikely.

In short, I no longer believe Bioware are the kind of company who would pull out all the stops like that.

[TurianRebel212]

Baelrahn wrote...

Yay, another seperate thread on pointless negativity.

But then again, if they would remove every thread that either suggest further issues with the endings or how a DLC is not what some people wanted, this board would only be discussing how asari procreate exactly.

Counter-question: How do you get excited over two pictures showing basically nothing of substance?

Well, wrex is in one of the pictures. And the new locale looks pretty cool. Also, that Krogan's been playing a little to much Halo 4, but meh... who can blame him. 

[fainmaca]

Baelrahn wrote...
But then again, if they would remove every thread that either suggest further issues with the endings or how a DLC is not what some people wanted, this board would only be discussing how asari procreate exactly.

Don't forget the scientific method for working out what Quarian sweat tastes like.

[Shaani]

Oh boy! They posted a single screenshot from the new DLC! I'd better hurry up and tell everyone how much I don't care!

[TurianRebel212]

Shaani wrote...

Oh boy! They posted a single screenshot from the new DLC! I'd better hurry up and tell everyone how much I don't care!

You are a Negative Nancy.   ;)

[Neverwinter_Knight77]

TurianRebel212 wrote...

Shepard gets closure alright.

Control- dies. Becomes a reaper

Synthesis- dies. I have no idea. Still trying to wrap my puny human brain around how swan diving into a beam, lets reaper energy mold into synthetic and organic DNA. And evolve them..... Sounds like harvesting to me. But meh... What do I know.

Refuse- Dies. All his friends and loved ones die. Awesome. BioWare saying don't like our 'art'? Well, to bad.

Destroy. Really the only choice, unless your a sociopath or really like TIM or Saren's ideas. Shep dies if you really screw people over and don't play MP. Shep lives if you don't. And gets to be a permanent member of asphalt on London or The Citadel or where ever shep's suppose to be. Yes 'closure'. More Please.

You hit the nail on the head.  Personally, I like happy endings.  Sue me, people.

[Jonathan Sud]

I've wanted an actual casino since Flux. I am excite. Quasar was cool.

Modifié par Jonathan Sud, 29 janvier 2013 - 09:00 .

[chidingewe8036]

Neverwinter_Knight77 wrote...

TurianRebel212 wrote...

Shepard gets closure alright.

Control- dies. Becomes a reaper

Synthesis- dies. I have no idea. Still trying to wrap my puny human brain around how swan diving into a beam, lets reaper energy mold into synthetic and organic DNA. And evolve them..... Sounds like harvesting to me. But meh... What do I know.

Refuse- Dies. All his friends and loved ones die. Awesome. BioWare saying don't like our 'art'? Well, to bad.

Destroy. Really the only choice, unless your a sociopath or really like TIM or Saren's ideas. Shep dies if you really screw people over and don't play MP. Shep lives if you don't. And gets to be a permanent member of asphalt on London or The Citadel or where ever shep's suppose to be. Yes 'closure'. More Please.

You hit the nail on the head.  Personally, I like happy endings.  Sue me, people.

Well after this next dlc comes out this franchise will be left in the rubble of the Citadel or London or wherever it is.

[Ryoten]

I'm not exited about it, until i hear more.

[Kingthlayer]

I don't see how anyone can be excited by two pictures. People are just building themselves up, expecting something awesome, and they're just going to be let down again.

I'm coming into this DLC with no expectations, after they were shattered with Omega. I built up that DLC so much thinking it was going to be something completely different and it was far from what I imagined it to be. Though that's 100% my fault, at least I didn't purchase the DLC, I waited to hear what other people said.

I'll start getting hyped for it once I see a write up of what the DLC is all about, a trailer will just pick the best parts and show that so it's not a good source of information.

[Neverwinter_Knight77]

chidingewe8036 wrote...

Neverwinter_Knight77 wrote...

TurianRebel212 wrote...

Shepard gets closure alright.

Control- dies. Becomes a reaper

Synthesis- dies. I have no idea. Still trying to wrap my puny human brain around how swan diving into a beam, lets reaper energy mold into synthetic and organic DNA. And evolve them..... Sounds like harvesting to me. But meh... What do I know.

Refuse- Dies. All his friends and loved ones die. Awesome. BioWare saying don't like our 'art'? Well, to bad.

Destroy. Really the only choice, unless your a sociopath or really like TIM or Saren's ideas. Shep dies if you really screw people over and don't play MP. Shep lives if you don't. And gets to be a permanent member of asphalt on London or The Citadel or where ever shep's suppose to be. Yes 'closure'. More Please.

You hit the nail on the head.  Personally, I like happy endings.  Sue me, people.

Well after this next dlc comes out this franchise will be left in the rubble of the Citadel or London or wherever it is.

That's one possibility, but there is another.  This DLC could be the answer to our prayers.  Who knows.  It's too early to tell.  I'm going to wait until the end of the DLC cycle before I give up on Mass Effect entirely.  I'm waiting to see how it goes.  So far, I have not been impressed.  The EC is a bandaid.  What we need is surgery.  But I guess a new, better bandage wouldn't hurt either.

[Kelwing]

Two pics don't do a thing for me. Ok something is coming and when I see more information on what it may be then I might get excited.

Other wise I will keep my expectations low with hope to be pleasantly surprised.

Modifié par Kelwing, 29 janvier 2013 - 11:05 .

[in it for the lolz]

Not really.
But I am excited about the new Aliens game coming out in Feb!

[Mcfly616]

Big Mac Heart Attack wrote...

I don't see how anyone can be excited by two pictures. People are just building themselves up, expecting something awesome, and they're just going to be let down again.

I'm excited....or atleast intrigued. Then again, my hopes and happiness don't hinge on Ending/Reunion DLC. Though, some peoples do. Some people just build themselves up for the letdown



I really don't understand what the all the hate is about for Omega. I just finished it for the second time, and I've come back with some assessments. Is it worth the price? No. Definitely not. But I had spare $ so I didn't really care. However, its the longest DLC so far. Environments are pretty cool. 2 brand new enemy types. It's light on story but it offers several ways to roleplay through it, resulting in slightly different conclusions. Idk, I guess I noticed more of "moral" theme for this DLC.

It's definitely not my favorite Mass Effect DLC, but I certainly enjoyed it more than Overlord, which is for some reason a fan favorite. While it has a quality segment or two, I found Overlord to be quite a chore. Whereas I had fun the entire way through Omega.

[Seboist]

The teaser got me excited for some more multiplayer content.

[Thrazesul]

I'm not excited because 2 pictures isn't enough to figure anything out on, since they can still mean anything.

Any theories are so far just theories so not gonna jump on any hype trains here, even if I'd like to.