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PicklePepperPiper

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Hi all,

Currently running a game with Hard Times installed. It's been really fun and challenging, but I'm just concerned about many of the items that aren't in the usual places. Do they appear at all with the mod, just at later levels/chapters? Went to pick up gauntlets of dex, only to be greeted by bracers of AC 8. :lol: And Greywolf's "sword" ended up being a halberd +1. Which I don't necessarily mind, makes the game more than just "find the good loot asap and kick ass", but I would like these items to appear eventually, and can't find any documentation in the hard times readme that addresses my concern.

Thanks,
-PPP

Modifié par PicklePepperPiper, 29 janvier 2013 - 09:36 .


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Son of Imoen

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It's been some years since I've played Hard Times as the solitary item mod. The last 2 or 3 playthroughs I played with the Item Randomizer as well, and it meddled with my memory of what can be found where.

But the general answer is some of the better items appear at later chapters, while some won't appear at all. The total number of magic items has been lowered and some do appear, but at different places than you'd expect.

For a first playthrough, that's also the fun of it: not knowing what item to expect where, you get to 'make do' with what you find, just like CHARNAME himself wouldn't be planning his items ahead, but react to what's there. After a few playthroughs the surprise wears off. That's why I installed Item Randomizer on top of it, but it brings back the problem off getting too much über-items early on, but in a randomized way: with the randomizer it becomes less predictable how powerful your party gets.

Modifié par Son of Imoen, 05 février 2013 - 10:27 .


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Charlestonian Knight Templar

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Hi Pickle Pepper Piper, I always play hard-times (except this time since I'm doing a BGEE run). But, as soon as Hard-Times is made to work with BGEE, you can be sure I'll mod it in. Like Son of Imoen (SoI) I too add in the Item Randomizer also.

I'm afraid you will find that you won't find many of those items you are looking for, and if you do, like SoI says, they'll show up later. However, it's best not to count on finding them.

But...monsters/foes won't have THEIR usual items either so the battlefield is still level.

Btw, I learned about Hard-Times from SoI about two years ago or more & have never played w/o it or the Item Randomizer since. I think it makes the game much more realistic in terms of playing the 'Iron Crisis' to the fullest.

CKT