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[donnyrides]

could be nice if the person that completes the biotic/tech explosion/burst didn't get hosed in the scoring. Great for teamwork, but sucks for scoring.

I love the challenge system and understand that points is the only way to make it work, but I kind of miss the old days where PUGs were built around the kit of other players in the PUG. I have noticed that more often I see players gravitating towards heavy weapon use over skills since there are multiple challenges that require weapon scoring on very few that require skill use.

[Credit2team]

SkylarV wrote...

thewalrusx wrote...

Annomander wrote...

thewalrusx wrote...

Annomander wrote...

Zero132132 wrote...
...you starting to understand why everyone in this thread thinks you're being incredibly stupid here?

Nope, he just continually claims that he should be rewarded for being a bad player... mandating that he SHOULD be rewarded for playing in the way that he perceives as being right, when he is clearly a minority among the player base.

I've already explained to him, if I make it to the spawn first I'm not going to wait around. No, we're going to start killing stuff, because unlike OP we don't need 3 other players to baby-sit us in a gold game, and unlike OP we don't think everyone should be bound at a low level, rendering skill a moot point.

His whole argument stems from him most likely being outscored often in pugs, and he doesn't like this. So he contrives a bizarre system where everything that a competent, efficient player does negatively impacts his score, but everything a carried, dead weight scrub does is rewarded.

No thanks, I'll detonate my own tech bursts, I'll score my own 20 headshots medal, thank you very much OP.

Thank you for admitting that you are incapable of playing as a teamplayer. If you need help ask for it, don't make threads whining about how you can't do it. Or go solo kid, this is a team game for team players.

You are extremely immature, even by BSN's standards. 

The blatant idiocy of your posts and your constant dodging of questions that you'd rather not answer makes you look rather stupid, all in all. Try learning to address someone's actual argument instead of resorting to Ad Hominem. Calling other people "bad" when they tear up your argument doesn't mean you've won the argument, it just makes you pathetically immature.

And the fact that you have the nerve to accuse others of whining is really rich. Your entire argument consists of nothing but whining because you're a slow, incompetent, sub-par player, who is a detriment to any team. Everything you have described about your "playstyle" means you're nothing more than dead weight.

People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. It is you who needs to sharpen up and improve, not us. I would rather have a player capable of handling himself in game in my lobby, than a person who requires his hand held, and spoon-fed kills.

I leave the immaturIty up to you. you scoff and insult in a childish manner without bring any logical arguments to the table. then when you are called out, you whine like a hurt child. 


I know it must be very difficult ofr you to work as a team because you spend all your time alone, but thats no excuse to complain about a system that rewards teamplay. let the challenge make you a better player. learn to work with people. Trust me you'll be a happier person who has much more fun with the game. 

I leave the immaturity up to you. You scoff and insult in a childish manner without bring any logical arguments to the table. Then when you are called out, you whine like a hurt child. 

I know it must be very difficult ofr you to work as a team because you spend all your time alone, but thats no excuse to complain about a system that rewards teamplay. Let the challenge make you a better player. Learn to work with people. Trust me you'll be a happier person who has much more fun with the game.

(You're giving us arguments against you, fyi)

 wow is this 4th grade all over again? can't think of anything yourself can you kid?

[SkylarV]

thewalrusx wrote...

SkylarV wrote...

thewalrusx wrote...

Annomander wrote...

thewalrusx wrote...

Annomander wrote...

Zero132132 wrote...
...you starting to understand why everyone in this thread thinks you're being incredibly stupid here?

Nope, he just continually claims that he should be rewarded for being a bad player... mandating that he SHOULD be rewarded for playing in the way that he perceives as being right, when he is clearly a minority among the player base.

I've already explained to him, if I make it to the spawn first I'm not going to wait around. No, we're going to start killing stuff, because unlike OP we don't need 3 other players to baby-sit us in a gold game, and unlike OP we don't think everyone should be bound at a low level, rendering skill a moot point.

His whole argument stems from him most likely being outscored often in pugs, and he doesn't like this. So he contrives a bizarre system where everything that a competent, efficient player does negatively impacts his score, but everything a carried, dead weight scrub does is rewarded.

No thanks, I'll detonate my own tech bursts, I'll score my own 20 headshots medal, thank you very much OP.

Thank you for admitting that you are incapable of playing as a teamplayer. If you need help ask for it, don't make threads whining about how you can't do it. Or go solo kid, this is a team game for team players.

You are extremely immature, even by BSN's standards. 

The blatant idiocy of your posts and your constant dodging of questions that you'd rather not answer makes you look rather stupid, all in all. Try learning to address someone's actual argument instead of resorting to Ad Hominem. Calling other people "bad" when they tear up your argument doesn't mean you've won the argument, it just makes you pathetically immature.

And the fact that you have the nerve to accuse others of whining is really rich. Your entire argument consists of nothing but whining because you're a slow, incompetent, sub-par player, who is a detriment to any team. Everything you have described about your "playstyle" means you're nothing more than dead weight.

People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. It is you who needs to sharpen up and improve, not us. I would rather have a player capable of handling himself in game in my lobby, than a person who requires his hand held, and spoon-fed kills.

I leave the immaturIty up to you. you scoff and insult in a childish manner without bring any logical arguments to the table. then when you are called out, you whine like a hurt child. 


I know it must be very difficult ofr you to work as a team because you spend all your time alone, but thats no excuse to complain about a system that rewards teamplay. let the challenge make you a better player. learn to work with people. Trust me you'll be a happier person who has much more fun with the game. 

I leave the immaturity up to you. You scoff and insult in a childish manner without bring any logical arguments to the table. Then when you are called out, you whine like a hurt child. 

I know it must be very difficult ofr you to work as a team because you spend all your time alone, but thats no excuse to complain about a system that rewards teamplay. Let the challenge make you a better player. Learn to work with people. Trust me you'll be a happier person who has much more fun with the game.

(You're giving us arguments against you, fyi)

 wow is this 4th grade all over again? can't think of anything yourself can you kid?

Stop hitting yourself! Stop hitting yourself!

[Blitzkrieg_33]

My face when OP's ideas will never come true:

[Credit2team]

Blitzkrieg_33 wrote...

thewalrusx wrote...

Just because you lack the skills to work as a team and extract doesn't mean that its impossible for others. you just need practice. 

The very point of teamwork is to synergize your efforts to create a whole that is greater than the parts.

FOR EXAMPLE: 1+1=3

Where two players might be okay playing by themselves, when combined they can play better than they could without.

I consider the best teamwork in this game to be the kind where I don't have to constantly worry about what my team is doing, because I know they can handle themselves. Likewise, I don't want my team to have to think they have to cover my ass, because I am capable of having AWARENESS OF MY SURROUNDINGS. I don't need a teammate to do it for me.

If you do, that is fine, but don't think you have the right to penalize other players because you can't do something that they can.

Learn to play.

Go back to bronze.

and please, please, quit it.

if you can't work as a team maybe you should be the one to go back to bronze kid.

If you are so good alone, you should try this thing called soloing, 

[HolyAvenger]

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Obvious troll is obvious.

Indeed. Since he refused my gracious offer to play together via Origin, I now hope to run into him in a PUG someday and see him implement this "team-based" playstyle in person...

[Credit2team]

Blitzkrieg_33 wrote...

My face when OP's ideas will never come true:

only it will and you will go back to playing COD with the other kids

[indy500fan]

This sounds idiotic. No reason for negative scores. And it doesn't tackle the biggest problem, people not doing the damn objectives. They should double or triple the score for doing objectives, other than that I don't see anything wrong with the way it is scored now.

[Credit2team]

HolyAvenger wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Obvious troll is obvious.

Indeed. Since he refused my gracious offer to play together via Origin, I now hope to run into him in a PUG someday and see him implement this "team-based" playstyle in person...

OF COURSE anyone who disagrees with your mightiness must be a troll amiright? You were the one who REFUSED to talk to anyone on my friendslist. 

[Zero132132]

thewalrusx wrote...

no I'm suggesting that the score reward those who play as a team, that doesn't prevent you fromplaying anyway you like, currently the score punishes those who play as a team, this needs to be corrected

In what sense are bad players that can't complete their own kills and need to be carried punished? They earn the same creds and XP as the competent players in a match.

Note that I'm not calling anyone that works as a team bad. I consistently brag about my revive medals, because when running around like crazy people, we do get downed, and I rush for the revive because I'm good to good teammates. Your system would make it impossible for me to help my buddy relevel in Gold (he's doing promotions) without playing in an absurdly boring way, and we've even taken it as far as wave 11 scorewhoring to help him out. THAT'S what team play is about; playing in a way that works for the team you're on. It isn't about staying close together or detonating each other's explosions, or never killing enemies alone, it's about working with the current team dynamic in a way that isn't actively detrimental to the chances of extraction.

Even if I were a camper like you, I wouldn't want someone to ignore killing an enemy creeping up behind me just because it'll mean less XP at the end. That would be horrible. It's absurdly stupid to want people to actually avoid killing enemies.

[Blitzkrieg_33]

thewalrusx wrote...

Blitzkrieg_33 wrote...

My face when OP's ideas will never come true:

only it will and you will go back to playing COD with the other kids

Says the guy that's played ME3 MP on average about 6 hours a day, every day, since the game's release.

Quit being delusional. Go outside.

[Ramsutin]

thewalrusx wrote...

Ramsutin wrote...

This post has given me HIV, Ebola, Cancer, Hanta, SARS and Malaria.
-infinity/10

And since inb4-posts are considered spam I'll do my best to get this thread locked
inb4lock
inb4spam
inb4OPisyouknowwhat
inb4inb4
inb4

not sure if stupid...

nevermind that I BW dev has commened in this thread like 6 times and not locked it...

You must learn young one that just because you don't like a thread doesn't mean it will get locked. When you hit pueberty you will understand this is how the world works. 

You must learn young one that what you think is "fun", "rewarding" and "deserwing playstyle" isn't the definition what others think that  "fun", "rewarding" and "deserwing playstyle" is. When you get open mind and perhaps a few points more to reading comprehension you will understand this. 

[HolyAvenger]

thewalrusx wrote...

HolyAvenger wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Obvious troll is obvious.

Indeed. Since he refused my gracious offer to play together via Origin, I now hope to run into him in a PUG someday and see him implement this "team-based" playstyle in person...

OF COURSE anyone who disagrees with your mightiness must be a troll amiright? You were the one who REFUSED to talk to anyone on my friendslist. 

Buddy, I don't even know who's on your friendslist.

Not to mention playing is much more direct than some third-party gossip.

[Credit2team]

Blitzkrieg_33 wrote...

thewalrusx wrote...

Blitzkrieg_33 wrote...

My face when OP's ideas will never come true:

only it will and you will go back to playing COD with the other kids

Says the guy that's played ME3 MP on average about 6 hours a day, every day, since the game's release.

Quit being delusional. Go outside.

Lol

You mad bro?I spend more time outside in one day than you do in a week. try again kid:lol:

[Ziegrif]

"Hello, test subjects. Good news first: our telekinesis incubation program has been a huge success. Bad news: The candidate screening process was a lot less successful. Let me tell you, we picked a real bunch of smart alecs to give mind-powers to. You hear me? Stop blowing up heads. Actually, you know what? Negotiation's over. I'd like you all to meet Terry. He's -- [BLAM!] Real funny, guys. But the joke's on you. I taped all your paychecks to Terry's head. Ha! Why don't you put THAT in your head and blow it up?"

[BridgeBurner]

thewalrusx wrote...

I leave the immaturaty up to you. you scoff and insult in a childish manner without bring any logical arguments to the table. then when you are called out, you whine like a hurt child. 


I know it must be very difficult ofr you to work as a team because you spend all your time alone, but thats no excuse to complain about a system that rewards teamplay. let the challenge make you a better player. learn to work with people. Trust me you'll be a happier person who has much more fun with the game.

No logical arguments? Look at your thread. You've got 12 pages of logical arguments, not one of which you've managed to refute. You just keep calling people "kid" and "bad" because you're incapable of doing the mature thing and admitting you're wrong.

The only person whining is you.

The current system we have rewards team play. Enemies dying = waves completed = objectives completed = extraction. You seem to think otherwise because... well, I don't know. Nobody does, we're completely mystified by your... inanity.

As for how much fun I have with ME3, enjoyment for me is deriven from how efficiently my character can dispatch enemies. Having a laugh with friends adds to the enjoyment. Why is it that you seem to think that your definition of "fun" is universally applicable and is automatically the most valid? Your definition of fun is my definition of tedium. Again, this was a question raised by people many pages ago, which you still haven't substantiated a rebuttal of.

Anyway, I'm done with this, I'm not going to continue posting when you cannot even formulate a mature or well-structured response; instead you just continue dribbling moronically. I will not be reading this thread anymore, so you needn't reply, but something about your childish demeanour tells me that you will anyway.

[Credit2team]

HolyAvenger wrote...

thewalrusx wrote...

HolyAvenger wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Obvious troll is obvious.

Indeed. Since he refused my gracious offer to play together via Origin, I now hope to run into him in a PUG someday and see him implement this "team-based" playstyle in person...

OF COURSE anyone who disagrees with your mightiness must be a troll amiright? You were the one who REFUSED to talk to anyone on my friendslist. 

Buddy, I don't even know who's on your friendslist.

Not to mention playing is much more direct than some third-party gossip.

a) you can see any players friendslist on origin (you knew this already I'm sure)
so you don't actualy want to hear about good teamplay, you just want to get in a pissing competition for score...in otherwords the exact same thing I've been compalining that makes the game unfun. Seriously kid? Look at my manifest, obviously I can extract on any difficulty while playing MY playstyle. tealk to my friends and they will verify this, not only that its fun, but that it works (its leads to successful games) . 

[Ramsutin]

Ziegrif wrote...

"Hello, test subjects. Good news first: our telekinesis incubation program has been a huge success. Bad news: The candidate screening process was a lot less successful. Let me tell you, we picked a real bunch of smart alecs to give mind-powers to. You hear me? Stop blowing up heads. Actually, you know what? Negotiation's over. I'd like you all to meet Terry. He's -- [BLAM!] Real funny, guys. But the joke's on you. I taped all your paychecks to Terry's head. Ha! Why don't you put THAT in your head and blow it up?"

Did you just make that up? Because it sounds familiar...

[Credit2team]

Annomander wrote...

thewalrusx wrote...

I leave the immaturaty up to you. you scoff and insult in a childish manner without bring any logical arguments to the table. then when you are called out, you whine like a hurt child. 


I know it must be very difficult ofr you to work as a team because you spend all your time alone, but thats no excuse to complain about a system that rewards teamplay. let the challenge make you a better player. learn to work with people. Trust me you'll be a happier person who has much more fun with the game.

No logical arguments? Look at your thread. You've got 12 pages of logical arguments, not one of which you've managed to refute. You just keep calling people "kid" and "bad" because you're incapable of doing the mature thing and admitting you're wrong.

The only person whining is you.

The current system we have rewards team play. Enemies dying = waves completed = objectives completed = extraction. You seem to think otherwise because... well, I don't know. Nobody does, we're completely mystified by your... inanity.

As for how much fun I have with ME3, enjoyment for me is deriven from how efficiently my character can dispatch enemies. Having a laugh with friends adds to the enjoyment. Why is it that you seem to think that your definition of "fun" is universally applicable and is automatically the most valid? Your definition of fun is my definition of tedium. Again, this was a question raised by people many pages ago, which you still haven't substantiated a rebuttal of.

Anyway, I'm done with this, I'm not going to continue posting when you cannot even formulate a mature or well-structured response; instead you just continue dribbling moronically. I will not be reading this thread anymore, so you needn't reply, but something about your childish demeanour tells me that you will anyway.

Sigh, so you you get caught in the acta again and all you can say is "no you" really pittiful here kid. Learn how to aticulate an opinion without the childish insults and people will listen to you, I promiseB)

[Credit2team]

Lord_Sirian wrote...

D_nought just informed me that the OP is serious.

I don't even know what to say.  So I'll just say this.

 

so much anger

[SkylarV]

Ramsutin wrote...

Ziegrif wrote...

"Hello, test subjects. Good news first: our telekinesis incubation program has been a huge success. Bad news: The candidate screening process was a lot less successful. Let me tell you, we picked a real bunch of smart alecs to give mind-powers to. You hear me? Stop blowing up heads. Actually, you know what? Negotiation's over. I'd like you all to meet Terry. He's -- [BLAM!] Real funny, guys. But the joke's on you. I taped all your paychecks to Terry's head. Ha! Why don't you put THAT in your head and blow it up?"

Did you just make that up? Because it sounds familiar...

Sounds like a Cave Johnson (Portal 2) monologue to me

[Ramsutin]

thewalrusx wrote...

Annomander wrote...

thewalrusx wrote...

I leave the immaturaty up to you. you scoff and insult in a childish manner without bring any logical arguments to the table. then when you are called out, you whine like a hurt child. 


I know it must be very difficult ofr you to work as a team because you spend all your time alone, but thats no excuse to complain about a system that rewards teamplay. let the challenge make you a better player. learn to work with people. Trust me you'll be a happier person who has much more fun with the game.

No logical arguments? Look at your thread. You've got 12 pages of logical arguments, not one of which you've managed to refute. You just keep calling people "kid" and "bad" because you're incapable of doing the mature thing and admitting you're wrong.

The only person whining is you.

The current system we have rewards team play. Enemies dying = waves completed = objectives completed = extraction. You seem to think otherwise because... well, I don't know. Nobody does, we're completely mystified by your... inanity.

As for how much fun I have with ME3, enjoyment for me is deriven from how efficiently my character can dispatch enemies. Having a laugh with friends adds to the enjoyment. Why is it that you seem to think that your definition of "fun" is universally applicable and is automatically the most valid? Your definition of fun is my definition of tedium. Again, this was a question raised by people many pages ago, which you still haven't substantiated a rebuttal of.

Anyway, I'm done with this, I'm not going to continue posting when you cannot even formulate a mature or well-structured response; instead you just continue dribbling moronically. I will not be reading this thread anymore, so you needn't reply, but something about your childish demeanour tells me that you will anyway.

Sigh, so you you get caught in the acta again and all you can say is "no you" really pittiful here kid. Learn how to aticulate an opinion without the childish insults and people will listen to you, I promiseB)

How old are you?

[Pyroninja42]

Lord_Sirian wrote...

D_nought just informed me that the OP is serious.

I don't even know what to say.  So I'll just say this.

 

Or this.

[Blitzkrieg_33]

thewalrusx wrote...

Lol

You mad bro?I spend more time outside in one day than you do in a week. try again kid:lol:

I ain't even mad, I'm actually starting to pity you a little bit. You fail to realize that EVERYONE here disagrees with you. You need help, cuz.