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thewalrusx wrote...
Kinom001 wrote...
Penalizing for solo kills is a horrible idea. So many "foot soldier" characters can die from one shot most people would have no score, or a negative score, by the end of the match.
bump up the difficulty
LeandroBraz wrote...
thewalrusx wrote...
Kinom001 wrote...
Penalizing for solo kills is a horrible idea. So many "foot soldier" characters can die from one shot most people would have no score, or a negative score, by the end of the match.
bump up the difficulty
Then you get people complaining about the game being too hard.. Welcome sir to the amazing world of game development! Where nothing is simple and you are probably wrong!
thewalrusx wrote...
BDaddy1968 wrote...
thewalrusx wrote...
BDaddy1968 wrote...
You're logic is flawed, recheck your premise. The Destroyer standing in the face of the enemy is as much a team player as the Volus keeping everyone alive as the GI up on the high ground covering the hack on London.
I don't see how that's logical. I mean I suppose a destroyer can detonate tech explosions well enough and can get assists as well.
The point is that every action a teammate does will contribute to the bottom line. Let's face it, the Destroyer can handle drawing way more aggro than a Drell. And perhaps I prefer to detonate my own BE. Does that make me a bad teammate? Everyone also has their own play style. If player A likes to fight from a distance but player B is built for and prefers CQC, who's right?
first: my drelgaurd would like a word with you
no matter how quick your CD is its always more efficient to have one player prime while another detonate. for example:
player1: snapfreeze
player2: overload
repeat
(results in CE's and TBS)
player 3:warp
player 4: reave
repeat
results in 2 BE's
so your logic is players have made the game unfun so you should keep playing it and have the least fun possible?darkpassenger2342 wrote...
teamwork is overrated in this game, partially because the players made it this way.
if you stand around waiting for stuff, getting frustrated, this game might have evolved past you, youre never going to be able to make others play how you want them to.
might as well run around too and enjoy the game.
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Rudenut wrote...
Your condescending tone is insulting. What I want from a team is players that kill at least as fast as I do. If I have to compete for kills I improve. This may not be competitive in the CoD sense but competition is still healthy. It makes everyone better.
If you are unable to kill as fast as your team mates and stand around doing nothing the entire match, maybe you should go down a diff or two. As a matter of fact, I wish you and other like you would you do nothing for my game.
Man is competitive. Though, if the state of my sons baseball league with their "everyone gets a trophy" mentality is an indicator, you and yours will soon strip him of that, along with his desire to succeed.
Modifié par UnknownMercenary, 29 janvier 2013 - 05:44 .
thewalrusx wrote...
so your logic is players have made the game unfun so you should keep playing it and have the least fun possible?darkpassenger2342 wrote...
teamwork is overrated in this game, partially because the players made it this way.
if you stand around waiting for stuff, getting frustrated, this game might have evolved past you, youre never going to be able to make others play how you want them to.
might as well run around too and enjoy the game.
as anyone who knows me well, they know I'm perfectly capable of soloing gold with just about any character. that doesn't make it fun to play. teamwork makes the game fun. If soloing is your thing, go solo. But keep teamplay as an essentaila part of playing with a team.
Modifié par darkpassenger2342, 29 janvier 2013 - 05:47 .
Modifié par darkpassenger2342, 29 janvier 2013 - 05:49 .
UnknownMercenary wrote...
If you are hurting for things to kill in a private match, then go play in PUGs?
Playing private games with coordinated players SHOULD encourage you to get better, learning the spawns and how to attack them efficiently.
Or you can always strive to be the big fish in public matches, considering the state of them these days.
From your N7HQ it's not like you're new to this game ... why is this an issue now 1300 hours later?
thewalrusx wrote...
UnknownMercenary wrote...
If you are hurting for things to kill in a private match, then go play in PUGs?
Playing private games with coordinated players SHOULD encourage you to get better, learning the spawns and how to attack them efficiently.
Or you can always strive to be the big fish in public matches, considering the state of them these days.
From your N7HQ it's not like you're new to this game ... why is this an issue now 1300 hours later?
faster never equals better, simple as that
better is working as a TEAM
when you play with your first good team you'll understand.
thewalrusx wrote...
when you play with your first good team you'll understand.
Bryan Johnson wrote...
Oh another thing under this scoring system you have proposed, could you get unlimited points if you just had justicar casting bubble over and over?
If you had a GI melee and a volus paired up technically the GI would be doing all the killing while the volus healed him. Would this not result in either negative or 0 points?
Annomander wrote...
thewalrusx wrote...
when you play with your first good team you'll understand.
Yeah merc, stop playing with those nabs like Annomander and the rest of those guys, who can clear a gold match in 17 minutes and have a great time doing so as well, and instead, slow down, take 30 minutes and play with some REALLY good public players who take forever to kill stuff.
What makes a game fun for me is running around like a crazy person. What makes a good team for me is four people that can run a chaotic match like that, still be effective, and still get decent clear times. Every single thing about your score system would make the game punish my version of fun.thewalrusx wrote...
faster never equals better, simple as thatUnknownMercenary wrote...
If you are hurting for things to kill in a private match, then go play in PUGs?
Playing private games with coordinated players SHOULD encourage you to get better, learning the spawns and how to attack them efficiently.
Or you can always strive to be the big fish in public matches, considering the state of them these days.
From your N7HQ it's not like you're new to this game ... why is this an issue now 1300 hours later?
better is working as a TEAM
when you play with your first good team you'll understand.
lazysundae wrote...
OP - 5 pages later you are still the only person saying that this is a good idea. We have given reason after reason why staying within 1 foot of each player is tactically insane, why solo kills would make many weapons obsolete, why dragging a game out to 40 minutes is boring, and why hoping someone else will properly explode your power is an exercise in frustration.
If you're not having fun, go play something else. If you're frustrated that everything is getting killed before you can get to it, go PUG or get better at finding spawns. If you want to play with your friends, crack some jokes and have fun with it - so what if you come in last??
Modifié par darkpassenger2342, 29 janvier 2013 - 05:55 .
In the end that's really the most important score of all.Zero132132 wrote...
What makes a game fun for me is running
around like a crazy person. What makes a good team for me is four people
that can run a chaotic match like that, still be effective, and still
get decent clear times. Every single thing about your score system would make the game punish my version of fun.
Meanwhile,
in the current system, no one is punished. Players can adopt any
playstyle they like, and the end result will generally be the same XP
and same credits for a completed match. The game doesn't try to force me
to play any specific way. Why the hell SHOULD it?
Modifié par Mindlog, 29 janvier 2013 - 05:59 .
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