Zathrian turned the evil humans into werewolves.
Why?
The werewolves defintely did not enjoy being werewolves. They tell you as much. They believe themselves to be cursed. So in terms of causing suffering the curse is a success. My question is why wolves? As werewolves the pack is a continuing threat to everyone and everything. If they regain their minds, then they switch from being savage, random predators to cunning, savage predators.
Zathrian should have made them herbivores. But what sort of herbivore? Were-halla would have infected the clan's herd. Even rabbits can turn savage. Domesticated animals are right out. One shudders to think what sort of milk a were-cow would yield.
So what Zathrian should have done is turn the humans into werepandas. Pandas are herbivores, fairly gentle and have a diet restricted to bamboo. Further they have serious difficulties reproducing.
Why were? (spoilers)
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mousestalker
, janv. 29 2013 01:33
#1
Posté 29 janvier 2013 - 01:33
#2
Posté 29 janvier 2013 - 02:52
#3
Posté 29 janvier 2013 - 06:01
Or he could have just wiped them out with magic.
Dead humans problem solved.
He really is an idiot for letting them live in any form.
Dead humans problem solved.
He really is an idiot for letting them live in any form.
#4
Posté 29 janvier 2013 - 06:29
Ha ha. True, that. I never actually considered this.
Possibly his range of animals he can turn people into is quite limited - this is fairly compatible with lore via Morrigan and the Shapeshifter talent. Maybe the only other forms he knows are Bear and Dragon, so Wolf is the lesser threat?
Maybe he thought death was too good for them and though he wanted to show the world what beasts they were - so that their exteriors matched their savage crimes? And, this being centuries ago, the Dalish were stronger (possible - I don't really keep track of the Ferelden timeline) and he assumed they'd never amount to much of a threat - as far as I can make out, didn't they only start becoming a real danger when they started getting organised, which was only after the Lady took them under her wing?
Just thinking out loud.
Possibly his range of animals he can turn people into is quite limited - this is fairly compatible with lore via Morrigan and the Shapeshifter talent. Maybe the only other forms he knows are Bear and Dragon, so Wolf is the lesser threat?
Maybe he thought death was too good for them and though he wanted to show the world what beasts they were - so that their exteriors matched their savage crimes? And, this being centuries ago, the Dalish were stronger (possible - I don't really keep track of the Ferelden timeline) and he assumed they'd never amount to much of a threat - as far as I can make out, didn't they only start becoming a real danger when they started getting organised, which was only after the Lady took them under her wing?
Just thinking out loud.
#5
Posté 29 janvier 2013 - 06:38
I find it easier to organize my thoughts into point form.
1) While there definitely are werewolves in the Thedas setting, there aren't were-halla or were-pandas to my knowledge. Perhaps this was a case where he only had one mold to cast from; werewolves might have been his only option.
2) Turning people into werewolves does, in a way, hide evidence of his crime. If there were a bunch of were-hippos running around the Brecilian Forest, people would say "Hmm, that's weird" and possibly investigate. But werewolves in Ferelden are a dime a dozen; the country's history is rife with the creatures.
3) He didn't only want the humans to suffer, but to suffer for all time. If he'd just killed them all, then their suffering would have ended with those victims. The curse ensured their children would become wolves, as would all the generations that followed.
4) He clearly didn't anticipate Witherfang/The Lady of the Forest tempering the savage nature of the werewolves. And even if she did, why would she want to end the curse? That would end her life as well. He didn't count on his creation actually wanting to die.
1) While there definitely are werewolves in the Thedas setting, there aren't were-halla or were-pandas to my knowledge. Perhaps this was a case where he only had one mold to cast from; werewolves might have been his only option.
2) Turning people into werewolves does, in a way, hide evidence of his crime. If there were a bunch of were-hippos running around the Brecilian Forest, people would say "Hmm, that's weird" and possibly investigate. But werewolves in Ferelden are a dime a dozen; the country's history is rife with the creatures.
3) He didn't only want the humans to suffer, but to suffer for all time. If he'd just killed them all, then their suffering would have ended with those victims. The curse ensured their children would become wolves, as would all the generations that followed.
4) He clearly didn't anticipate Witherfang/The Lady of the Forest tempering the savage nature of the werewolves. And even if she did, why would she want to end the curse? That would end her life as well. He didn't count on his creation actually wanting to die.
Modifié par thats1evildude, 30 janvier 2013 - 05:07 .
#6
Posté 30 janvier 2013 - 04:06
thats1evildude wrote...
He didn't count on his creation actually wanting to die.
I don't think we can really call Witherfang "his creation", as Witherfang is just a wolf bound together with the spirit of the forest.
All that really says is that he gave the spirit a body of its own, but I wouldn't call Witherfang/the Lady his creation.
#7
Posté 30 janvier 2013 - 05:03
You're splitting hairs, Ethereal. The Lady of the Forest herself refers to Zathrian as her "maker," and says he gave her "form and consciousness where none existed."
By your line of reasoning, I could say that Dr. Frankenstein didn't "create" his monster because he just assembled a bunch of existing body parts into a distinct being and let a bolt of lightning do its thing.
In any case, it's not particularly relevant to Mousestalker's question.
By your line of reasoning, I could say that Dr. Frankenstein didn't "create" his monster because he just assembled a bunch of existing body parts into a distinct being and let a bolt of lightning do its thing.
In any case, it's not particularly relevant to Mousestalker's question.
Modifié par thats1evildude, 30 janvier 2013 - 05:08 .





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