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[DeinonSlayer]

Argolas wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...

Greylycantrope wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...
My own Shepard told Gerrel "We'll take care of disabling the ship. Then you counter-attack."

Gerrel did that. I was supposed to get angry at him? No. "Good job taking out that ship."

It's inconsitant if you go full paragon as well, you tell him to retreat, he tries to kill you but you're cool with it.
Punch him every time, we could have used that ship!

That ship was a lost cause the moment the Geth handed it over to the Reapers.

That would apply to the Geth as a whole, then. What's the difference between a typical Geth and a Geth ship? I'd say none. Geth are Software, those walking flashlights are just platforms, as are their ships. Until Reaper code changes them, that is.

I've said it before here - think about this: every Geth on that dreadnought was still hostile, still under Reaper control after detaching Legion. They'd be working on repairs. The Quarians are the only friendlies in the system at the moment, and they were barely able to punch a hole in the dreadnought when it was at full strength. If the Reaper-controlled Geth get systems back up, Shepard won't be getting off the ship, and the ship itself will go right back to tearing the Quarian fleet apart. It had to be destroyed, or the Quarians would have died and the Geth would stay under Reaper control.

"You did the right thing. Just give me a heads-up next time."

To get back on topic, I'd like to see Paragon/Renegade go away entirely, if only to force people to think about their actions instead of letting the game think for them. ME3 took steps in the right direction.

Modifié par DeinonSlayer, 29 janvier 2013 - 08:34 .

[evilgummybear]

i reakon game is more designed for paragon
the evil route is something i can do on 2nd play thrus.
Even that i find hard to do, when you fall in love with characters in the game i find it hard to betray them even its just a game.

i quite like the paragon/renegade routine.

[GreyLycanTrope]

DeinonSlayer wrote...
That ship was a lost cause the moment the Geth handed it over to the Reapers.

The Geth fought against the Reapers with me, we could've used that ship.

Modifié par Greylycantrope, 29 janvier 2013 - 08:33 .

[DeinonSlayer]

Greylycantrope wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...
That ship was a lost cause the moment the Geth handed it over to the Reapers.

The Geth fought against the Reapers with me, we could've used that ship.

Notice how every Geth on that ship was still shooting at you after unplugging Legion? Read what I posted above. I won't write it out a third time.

[GreyLycanTrope]

DeinonSlayer wrote...

Notice how every Geth on that ship was still shooting at you after unplugging Legion? Read what I posted above. I won't write it out a third time.

All the Geth were still shooting at us, still got them all on board.

[DeinonSlayer]

Greylycantrope wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...

Notice how every Geth on that ship was still shooting at you after unplugging Legion? Read what I posted above. I won't write it out a third time.

All the Geth were still shooting at us, still got them all on board.

Will you read what I wrote at the top of the page, please?

[Belisarius25]

Moving from a strictly Paragon/Renegade to reputation-based system was a really nice change in ME3, it felt stupid that you would feel obligated to stick blindly to one type of action just to have enough points to convince your teammates not to hate each other or what not. Although most of my Shepards lean one way or another, and you only have limited options regardless, at least there's a little freedom there.

It might be nice if they had an influence system or some sort of persuasion-related system, as well, but I'm not sure how well it'd fit within the ME universe. You don't really choose between factions, there isn't enough 1-1 interaction with other characters (even squadmates), and you don't really make too many decisions during missions, usually it's just "complete the objective" with only one way to do so.

Modifié par Belisarius25, 29 janvier 2013 - 08:43 .

[GreyLycanTrope]

DeinonSlayer wrote...
Will you read what I wrote at the top of the page, please?

I did, wouldn't tear them apart if they retreated like planned.

[DeinonSlayer]

Greylycantrope wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...
Will you read what I wrote at the top of the page, please?

I did, wouldn't tear them apart if they retreated like planned.

They're under REAPER CONTROL at the time! It takes days for the Migrant Fleet to traverse a relay, and the Geth were blockading them in the system. Hell, the Reaper signal comes back up minutes after Shepard reports to Hackett. There was never any chance to escape.

What exactly is your plan to free the Geth from Reaper control if they had managed to escape in spite of all that?

Modifié par DeinonSlayer, 29 janvier 2013 - 08:53 .

[Steelcan]

This argument again?

Deinon, you should realize by now that people are going to stick with what paragon tells them until the bitter ending

[GreyLycanTrope]

DeinonSlayer wrote...
They're under REAPER CONTROL at the time! It takes days for the Migrant Fleet to traverse a relay, and the Geth were blockading them in the system. Hell, the Reaper signal comes back up minutes after Shepard reports to Hackett. There was never any chance to escape.

Takes just a few minutes for the entire allied fleet to show up at Earth, it wouldn't have taken that long, and the Reaper control was disabled even if only teparaily it was confirmed to be off at the time by Legion no less, ample time to run.

[DeinonSlayer]

Steelcan wrote...

This argument again?

Deinon, you should realize by now that people are going to stick with what paragon tells them until the bitter ending

*sigh* You're right.

[IMNOTCRAZYiminsane]

Steelcan wrote...

This argument again?

Deinon, you should realize by now that people are going to stick with what paragon tells them until the bitter ending

L.O.L why you have to be right 

[GreyLycanTrope]

Steelcan wrote...

This argument again?

Deinon, you should realize by now that people are going to stick with what paragon tells them until the bitter ending

Bit unfair seeing as punching him is a renegade option and not doing so is paragon.

Modifié par Greylycantrope, 29 janvier 2013 - 08:57 .

[The Heretic of Time]

Mass Effect (or any game for that matter) would be better off without a stupid morality system.

Modifié par Heretic_Hanar, 29 janvier 2013 - 08:59 .

[IMNOTCRAZYiminsane]

Greylycantrope wrote...

Steelcan wrote...

This argument again?

Deinon, you should realize by now that people are going to stick with what paragon tells them until the bitter ending

Bit unfair seeing as punching him is a renegade options and not doing so is paragon.

I like puching him My Shepard got so scared she freaked and BLAM! 

What Shepard said "GET OFF MY SHIP"

what i heard "BRO WTH! RELAX" 

[Giga Drill BREAKER]

Greylycantrope wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...
They're under REAPER CONTROL at the time! It takes days for the Migrant Fleet to traverse a relay, and the Geth were blockading them in the system. Hell, the Reaper signal comes back up minutes after Shepard reports to Hackett. There was never any chance to escape.

Takes just a few minutes for the entire allied fleet to show up at Earth, it wouldn't have taken that long, and the Reaper control was disabled even if only teparaily it was confirmed to be off at the time by Legion no less, ample time to run.

Not to mention they seem to have had plenty of time to reorganize a fleet that was in disarray and getting decimated to bombard the geth ship.


Not to mention SHEPARD THE ONLY HOPE FOR THE GALAXY WAS ON THE SHIP.

Modifié par DinoSteve, 29 janvier 2013 - 09:02 .

[DeinonSlayer]

DinoSteve wrote...

Greylycantrope wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...
They're under REAPER CONTROL at the time! It takes days for the Migrant Fleet to traverse a relay, and the Geth were blockading them in the system. Hell, the Reaper signal comes back up minutes after Shepard reports to Hackett. There was never any chance to escape.

Takes just a few minutes for the entire allied fleet to show up at Earth, it wouldn't have taken that long, and the Reaper control was disabled even if only teparaily it was confirmed to be off at the time by Legion no less, ample time to run.

Not to mention they seem to have had plenty of time to reorganize a fleet that was in disarray and getting decimated to bombard the geth ship.


Not to mention SHEPARD THE ONLY HOPE FOR THE GALAXY WAS ON THE SHIP.

As I said. Egoism.

[estebanus]

I think that renegades should go back to the ME1-style "The end justifies the means" kind of personality instead of the "Sociopathic maniac" we've got in ME3.

[Giga Drill BREAKER]

DeinonSlayer wrote...

DinoSteve wrote...

Greylycantrope wrote...

DeinonSlayer wrote...
They're under REAPER CONTROL at the time! It takes days for the Migrant Fleet to traverse a relay, and the Geth were blockading them in the system. Hell, the Reaper signal comes back up minutes after Shepard reports to Hackett. There was never any chance to escape.

Takes just a few minutes for the entire allied fleet to show up at Earth, it wouldn't have taken that long, and the Reaper control was disabled even if only teparaily it was confirmed to be off at the time by Legion no less, ample time to run.

Not to mention they seem to have had plenty of time to reorganize a fleet that was in disarray and getting decimated to bombard the geth ship.


Not to mention SHEPARD THE ONLY HOPE FOR THE GALAXY WAS ON THE SHIP.

As I said. Egoism.

Unless its true, I didn't see anyone else trying to get the galaxy in some type of shape to fight the reapers.

Gerrel still made the wrong decision, he broke the agreement he had with Shepard to save the live ships. He should face a court martial if the Quarians have those.

Honestly I highly doubt destroying that one ship would have won that war for the quarins, I'd imagine that there where Geth in other system with other servers.

Modifié par DinoSteve, 29 janvier 2013 - 09:12 .

[CynicalShep]

Oh please, not the "I Tali" vs "Geth are human, too" argument again. Geth shouldn't have accepted help from the Reapers and Quarian Admirals are suicidal morons

[Funkdrspot]

Dunno if this has been said but in ME4, I would like to see choices that add/subtract from your charisma and right/wrong choices based on circumstances, not ideology.

[Funkdrspot]

CynicalShep wrote...

Oh please, not the "I Tali" vs "Geth are human, too" argument again. Geth shouldn't have accepted help from the Reapers and Quarian Admirals are suicidal morons

i dunno if you know this or are just ignoring it but the geth only accepted help from the reapers b/c they got real stupid real fast when the quarians destroyed the geths new supership. itd be like jumping from einstein to forest gump in a nano second while losing a fight that will likely end in your extinction

[Seboist]

DinoSteve wrote...

Would you guys like to see Morailty repsented differently in Mass Effect 4 and if so how and if not would you like to see it tweaked.

I think it could use an overhaul.
I think if you are playing as a paragon there are times when you should get angry an example being when you get back from the geth ship in ME3, or in your conversation with TIM after you first time on the collector base in ME2. I also think you can be a renegade without being an ass and some of the renegade choices come off that way.

Dammit wrong forum, oh well.

It would be nice if there was a lick of difference between the two for one.

[The Night Mammoth]

How about having more than just two defined forms of morality?