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[ArcaptSSX]

cdzander wrote...

Like I said I have the CSMG at III. I have a Hurricane VIII. Which SMG am I more likely to use?

Not a fair comparison. The Hurricane is fantastic at close range or on large targets at mid range,  while the CSMG will perform well at almost any range on any target. It boils down to how you want to play your character.

[Zjarcal]

Yaevinn wrote...

Collectors' SMG.

Zjarcal: You do realize, it's on Turian Soldier? TSol makes every weapon shine.

............. 

First of all... that was a Turian SENTINEL.

Second, BOTH weapons were tested on the same character with the same build, even if that build elevated a gun beyond it's normal performance, it would also be doing the same for the other.

[IxMerc04]

I know it's something I'm doing wrong but for me it is the Wraith, mine is level V so i need to wait some to truly say but I hate the wraith's reload delay.

Now i'd say the Paladin.

Modifié par IxMerc04, 06 février 2013 - 07:52 .

[Kalas Magnus]

Zjarcal wrote...

tivesz wrote...

 To people who are convinced that the CSMG sucks.

Ok, something is wrong with the numbers I tested earlier...

8.2 seconds on the CSMG vs 11.6 seconds on the Indra under the same conditions and with optimal AP for the Indra. No reload cancel on the Indra, but it reloads fast enough anyway.

Never trust numbers, go for in game experience. 

I take back my previous comments, Indra is still the worse UR for me (forgive me CSMG... ).

i agree

buff indra. biower pls:bandit:

[HolyAvenger]

BoneCarlos Lee wrote...

tivesz wrote...

BlackDahlia424 wrote...

tivesz wrote...

Link

Well, what do you want me to say, err...level it up to X?

An UR shouldn't need to be X to be good. It's far too level dependent and too many buffs happen as it levels - damage, clip size, refill rate and weight. Below V, it's borderline unusable.

So I guess we'll just have to ask the OP to change the title to "Worst UR Guns Below Level V".

I dont think  so, if an UR requests LV X to become valuable, then it is just simply not qulified to be listed in UR.

 
Ehh, I disagree. Some URs are crippled at low levels thanks to lack of ammo, that is not something limited to the CSMG (PPR, Javelin etc). But at X they become monstrous. That doesn't mean they don't deserve their UR status, in fact it is an added incentive to keep try and levelling them up instead of being stuck with the crappy initial variant.

[CoffeeHolic93]

URs I don't like too much: Paladin, PPR.

[Zjarcal]

Kalas321 wrote...

Zjarcal wrote...

tivesz wrote...

 To people who are convinced that the CSMG sucks.

Ok, something is wrong with the numbers I tested earlier...

8.2 seconds on the CSMG vs 11.6 seconds on the Indra under the same conditions and with optimal AP for the Indra. No reload cancel on the Indra, but it reloads fast enough anyway.

Never trust numbers, go for in game experience. 

I take back my previous comments, Indra is still the worse UR for me (forgive me CSMG... ).

i agree

buff indra. biower pls:bandit:

Lol, you ain't fooling anyone. 

I wouldn't be against a buff to either weapon though. :innocent:

Buff CSMG armor multiplier and buff Indra headshot multiplier. 

Modifié par Zjarcal, 30 janvier 2013 - 09:29 .

[ScumbagVince]

The Scorpion for me. I just can't make it work.

[Sulaco_7]

See lot of hate for my favorite gun, the Scorpion. I love it. Whenever I see more than 3+ mooks on the screen, I take it out and start spamming it on the floor. It will kill clusters of mooks faster than a harrier will. I admit that it is not very effective against the reapers, but against every other faction, it works very well.

I also like the CSMG (at X) a lot too. I think the Paladin is the worst UR.

[Deitar]

Indra, how am I supposed to keep headshotting moving stuff with that ROF and scope?

[Chameleonbot]

Collector SMG is a waste of a UR slot.

By my personal least used UR is the Particle Rifle, I hate the way it uses ammo and overheats.

[moortenson]

Probably the Scorpion. I actually like the Scorpion, but just try to use it in a match with other good players and they will steal half your kills without meaning to. The detonation delay is just a bit too long.

[Megakoresh]

I will go with majority and say CSMG. Horribly underpowered weapon.

[billy the squid]

Zjarcal wrote...

Kalas321 wrote...

Zjarcal wrote...

tivesz wrote...

 To people who are convinced that the CSMG sucks.

Ok, something is wrong with the numbers I tested earlier...

8.2 seconds on the CSMG vs 11.6 seconds on the Indra under the same conditions and with optimal AP for the Indra. No reload cancel on the Indra, but it reloads fast enough anyway.

Never trust numbers, go for in game experience. 

I take back my previous comments, Indra is still the worse UR for me (forgive me CSMG... ).

i agree

buff indra. biower pls:bandit:

Lol, you ain't fooling anyone. 

I wouldn't be against a buff to either weapon though. :innocent:

Buff CSMG armor multiplier and buff Indra headshot multiplier. 

Shhhh! Maybe BioWaire will be fooled!

As to the Indra after using it on a Turian Sol. The Mrksman and Prox mine really help it with the 55% headshot, accuracy and RoF. Then you have the HVB and Thermal scope/ Spare Clip and the weapon always has a good supply of ammo, and lets you see through smoke vs Cerberus, which makes mowing down mooks a laugh.

I don't know about increasing the headshot multiplier, but a smallish damage buff and removing the DR for hip firing would certainly benefit that weapon, more so than the other heavy SRs.

[SomeKindaEnigma]

tivesz wrote...

Saber.
Indra is a runner-up.

Javelin>Black Widow. Once you learn how to use it (l2np), you are a boss.

I think you have this backwards, Indra is the worst followed by the Saber

[billy7768]

DullahansXMark wrote...

The Cerberus Harr

Dammit, I ran out of letters. Lemme go run to the ammo box real quick.

XD

[DAN1EL86]

Javelin. No ammo, delayed beam garbage.

Runner up: Wraith still sucks.

[aaronisbla]

csmg has quickly become one of my most used weapons. really started liking it at around level 4, now its maxed out. such a good gun on a variety of classes, including weapon platforms if you want. Sure, on a weapons platform its not gonna take down an atlas as fast as a pirahna but its still a powerful smg. Accurate as well. Shame the Collector assault rifle couldn't get some power like its smaller cousin

[IIFlash]

For me it's the Eagle.
Excluding comm weapons it's the Paladin since it's borderline obsolete.

[koschwarz74]

paladin. i have it at X and i never want to use it. no reason for that.

[Cellodanceparty]

tivesz wrote...

Saber.
Indra is a runner-up.

Javelin>Black Widow. Once you learn how to use it (l2np), you are a boss.

Really? I actually like the Saber and Indra. Saber on any turian kit and Indra on basically any infiltrator or weapons based kit. 

As for the javelin black widow debate, I've kind of hit a wall with it. I'm just as good at both and tend to score about the same with virtually any kit I'd have a debate on the two on. I really think they are quite equal. Javelin packs more of a punch, black widows three shots (four on destroyer) are just as devastating. 

[Cellodanceparty]

As for all the csmg hate: it gets impossibly better with rank (I started liking it at 5). Just make sure to throw in extended clip and you're good to go.

And both the CSMG and Particle Rifle: don't shoot until your run out of ammo, give them a second to replenish themselves when you get the "reload" notification. You'll never run out again.

[Cellodanceparty]

After going through my manifest, I find that I use all of the URs for some situation or another. I notice that a good number of them I did not enjoy until level V or so.

[joker_jack]

tivesz wrote...

I am Sovereign wrote...

tivesz wrote...

Saber.
Indra is a runner-up.

What are you smoking? I want some.

If you're on PC, it might be not that bad, because of the EZ headshots, but on console, it just doesn't do that well, especially on a non-weapon oriented class. And I'd like some of that drugs that you're on, when you mentioned the Javelin.

I'm on xbox and vouge that these are 2 of the best guns in the game. You might want to learn to l2p yourself. before a failed troll attempt.

[DAN1EL86]

SomeKindaEnigma wrote...

tivesz wrote...

Saber.
Indra is a runner-up.

Javelin>Black Widow. Once you learn how to use it (l2np), you are a boss.

I think you have this backwards, Indra is the worst followed by the Saber

Good. I think the Indra is the best gun in the game. I'm really glad no one is using it/keeping the nerfer scrubs at bay.