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How to overlap reload animations with powers, i.e., skipping reloads all together.


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mrwizeguy wrote...

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Noticed this quite a while ago when doing far charges with my Vanguard. It's fun to do but rather situational.

 

Depends a lot on the build.

On a Claymore GI for example I do it a lot. Cloak --> shoot --> prox mine. Means more time spent using powers/shooting and less time doing long reload animations. 

i m not sure if you r serious sirian . like my previous post .
The time the bullet loads is the same as normal reload canceling. 
BSN at its best , posting on missleading information.
Is there or isnt a defined number for each weapons reload ? There is .
from the instant you fire your power that timer starts to count , you dont gain anything .
the only advantage of this could be with snipers because at reload the gun isnt animated up so its easyer to keep your aim at the target. the bullet will not reload faster.
But yea , every stupid or troll thread here gets the best of you keep it up

 

Not sure if trolling or just retarded. You've posted extremely stupid stuff in the past though, so I'm guessing the second one.

yea , proove how retarded i am by doing a vid with both RCing and edit a timer on it to c if it reloads the bullet faster. do it or stfu

 

Let's say you're a Vanguard. You shoot twice with a Wraith. You can then either reload, wait for the counter to tick over, reload cancel and biotic charge. Or you could immediately hit biotic charge, and by the time your charge is over, your ammo counter will have already ticked over, allowing you to immediately reload cancel. You're effectively doing two animations at once.

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Actually, I was just being facetious with the first post. I didn't intend to derail a thread with my rantings. Youd think by now that everyone would take me with a grain of salt and ignore my RC threads. Don't ignore my other ones. Im kinda funny in those.


So you waste your own time droning on pointless about bull**** you know is false EXPECTING people to ignore your posts... Somebody get me a knife... I don't want to live in this world anymore...

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spudspot wrote...

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My definition of cheating will never outweigh or even persuade most gamers on any gaming forum. They will always have the argument to say the devs put it in so its legit and never have to explain how they really feel on the topic in front of their peers (lets face it, Im probably, at 43, a minority) and probably the biggest factor, male pride.


And my definition of being a moron - i.e. everybody who is not me - will never persuade anybody that he or she is a moron. Yet I insist on calling everybody a moron, because I know they feel the same but are simply too proud to admit it.

Yes, people love me in real life. I'm a wonderful person. 


That's the beauty of the Internet. I can be me or I can be a complete schmuck. In case people have missed it, including Sirian, I am disabled. Am bed ridden. Am on drugs. And Ive said repeatedly, and I know Sirian don't believe me, but this and maybe a couple of other topics, is fun to bait people. For the most part, I don't say a single word about reload cancelling. I make thoughtful and productive threads about game play. Im a team player out and about on the battlefield. I just find Forums entertaining for some reason.

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GallowsPole wrote...

Actually, I was just being facetious with the first post. I didn't intend to derail a thread with my rantings. Youd think by now that everyone would take me with a grain of salt and ignore my RC threads. Don't ignore my other ones. Im kinda funny in those.



Ah yes, the "it was all just a troll/joke" post.

You're a mess GP. Image IPB

 

The correct thing to do is post the "lol i trol u" picture. But I already did that.

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I don't have a fanbase. In case you didn't notice, most BSN'ers aren't too fond of me.

But at least I'm not a standing joke like you are. Some of your posts will go down in BSN history. Right up there with the "Can flamer kill an atlas in a single cast?" thread.


I'd buy a Lord_Sirian T-shirt...

BTW... I'm 'Merican... and my country rules, most of the time.

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In case people have missed it, including Sirian, I am disabled. 

 

If it's a mental disability then that explains a lot, and I might stop mocking you so much.

If it's just a physical disability then it doesn't excuse your stupidity.

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The most important thing to understand is that GP's freedom of speech means nothing because of where he's choosing to try to express it. If he wants to use his freedom of speech he's entitled to. But if he says stuff BW doesn't like, they can ban him for it, because he's using their forum. Even if they were from the US this would hold true.


Oh I know. I meant that to be inferred by the "internet forum" bit. Then there's the "Canadian company" bit, and the "users from all over the world" bit just to drive the point home. ;)

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Blind2Society wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...

The most important thing to understand is that GP's freedom of speech means nothing because of where he's choosing to try to express it. If he wants to use his freedom of speech he's entitled to. But if he says stuff BW doesn't like, they can ban him for it, because he's using their forum. Even if they were from the US this would hold true.


Oh I know. I meant that to be inferred by the "internet forum" bit. Then there's the "Canadian company" bit, and the "users from all over the world" bit just to drive the point home. ;)

 

It always amazes me when Americans act like they're the only country in the world with a constitution, or freedom of speech.

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Lord_Sirian wrote...

GallowsPole wrote...

In case people have missed it, including Sirian, I am disabled. 

 

If it's a mental disability then that explains a lot, and I might stop mocking you so much.

If it's just a physical disability then it doesn't excuse your stupidity.


Actually, you should say something like "oh, I am sorry for your condition, I'll pitty you and will never mock you anymore". Or at least that's what you are supposed to do. I know it because I am physically disabeled to.

But, considering the GP is under drugs, maybe you should considering mental disbalance. I know, I am under drugs too :D

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Lord_Sirian wrote...

mrwizeguy wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...

mrwizeguy wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...

count_4 wrote...

Noticed this quite a while ago when doing far charges with my Vanguard. It's fun to do but rather situational.

 

Depends a lot on the build.

On a Claymore GI for example I do it a lot. Cloak --> shoot --> prox mine. Means more time spent using powers/shooting and less time doing long reload animations. 

i m not sure if you r serious sirian . like my previous post .
The time the bullet loads is the same as normal reload canceling. 
BSN at its best , posting on missleading information.
Is there or isnt a defined number for each weapons reload ? There is .
from the instant you fire your power that timer starts to count , you dont gain anything .
the only advantage of this could be with snipers because at reload the gun isnt animated up so its easyer to keep your aim at the target. the bullet will not reload faster.
But yea , every stupid or troll thread here gets the best of you keep it up

 

Not sure if trolling or just retarded. You've posted extremely stupid stuff in the past though, so I'm guessing the second one.

yea , proove how retarded i am by doing a vid with both RCing and edit a timer on it to c if it reloads the bullet faster. do it or stfu

 

Let's say you're a Vanguard. You shoot twice with a Wraith. You can then either reload, wait for the counter to tick over, reload cancel and biotic charge. Or you could immediately hit biotic charge, and by the time your charge is over, your ammo counter will have already ticked over, allowing you to immediately reload cancel. You're effectively doing two animations at once.

does that mean the bullet reloads faster? i dont think so , and wraith is a bad example anyway

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That's the beauty of the Internet. I can be me or I can be a complete schmuck. In case people have missed it, including Sirian, I am disabled. Am bed ridden. Am on drugs.


And I'm sorry to hear that, but how does it matter here? Why burn yourself on this forum repeatedly if you are in a condition that means you might have to spend a lot of your time on the internet - and this forum?

I personally don't roleplay on the internet, I like being a somewhat consistent person. 

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And Ive said repeatedly, and I know Sirian don't believe me, but this and maybe a couple of other topics, is fun to bait people.


I don't buy your 'lol, I has trolled you'.

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Lord_Sirian wrote...

GallowsPole wrote...

In case people have missed it, including Sirian, I am disabled. 

 

If it's a mental disability then that explains a lot, and I might stop mocking you so much.

If it's just a physical disability then it doesn't excuse your stupidity.


Both actually. I have severe nerve damage from the waist down and the combination of drugs I take messes with my head a lot. That's not to say I don't know what Im talking about though. Or does it? Image IPB

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does that mean the bullet reloads faster? i dont think so , and wraith is a bad example anyway

 

The Wraith is actually an excellent example. And yes in terms of animation cancelling, utilising this method means that you'll reload faster than you would if you, for example, charged and then took the time to reload. It does not speed up the actual reload animation itself, rather it combines the animation with another animation (that of a power) to mean that your damage output increases.

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Both actually. I have severe nerve damage from the waist down and the combination of drugs I take messes with my head a lot. That's not to say I don't know what Im talking about though. Or does it? Image IPB


Told you LS ! :P

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GallowsPole wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...

GallowsPole wrote...

In case people have missed it, including Sirian, I am disabled. 

 

If it's a mental disability then that explains a lot, and I might stop mocking you so much.

If it's just a physical disability then it doesn't excuse your stupidity.


Both actually. I have severe nerve damage from the waist down and the combination of drugs I take messes with my head a lot. That's not to say I don't know what Im talking about though. Or does it? Image IPB

 

Being on narcotics doesn't make you a complete moron. Sorry, disabled card doesn't work on me. No sympathy for you. 

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Lord_Sirian wrote...

mrwizeguy wrote...

does that mean the bullet reloads faster? i dont think so , and wraith is a bad example anyway

 

The Wraith is actually an excellent example. And yes in terms of animation cancelling, utilising this method means that you'll reload faster than you would if you, for example, charged and then took the time to reload. It does not speed up the actual reload animation itself, rather it combines the animation with another animation (that of a power) to mean that your damage output increases.


I think this guy is actually to 'wize' to understand that.

Protect the environment. Don't waste your keyboards.

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spudspot wrote...

GallowsPole wrote...

That's the beauty of the Internet. I can be me or I can be a complete schmuck. In case people have missed it, including Sirian, I am disabled. Am bed ridden. Am on drugs.


And I'm sorry to hear that, but how does it matter here? Why burn yourself on this forum repeatedly if you are in a condition that means you might have to spend a lot of your time on the internet - and this forum?

I personally don't roleplay on the internet, I like being a somewhat consistent person. 

GallowsPole wrote...

And Ive said repeatedly, and I know Sirian don't believe me, but this and maybe a couple of other topics, is fun to bait people.


I don't buy your 'lol, I has trolled you'.


Im consistent. I believe what I said about reload cancelling. OK, Ill apologize for calling peeps cheaters, but other than that, I stand by most of what I said about it. Im only burned, as you put it, if any of this really mattered to me on some kind of personal level. Its a freaking video game for petes sake. To see people get so emotionally charged over it is amazing to me.

Its fine if you don't believe the lol, I has trolled you bit. Its been around longer than reload cancelling.

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Actually, you should say something like "oh, I am sorry for your condition, I'll pitty you and will never mock you anymore". Or at least that's what you are supposed to do. I know it because I am physically disabeled to.


From what little interaction with disabled folks I had, one thing was constant: Pity was the last thing they wanted.

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Deitar wrote...

Charaxan wrote...

Actually, you should say something like "oh, I am sorry for your condition, I'll pitty you and will never mock you anymore". Or at least that's what you are supposed to do. I know it because I am physically disabeled to.


From what little interaction with disabled folks I had, one thing was constant: Pity was the last thing they wanted.


Indeed. That was a mockery of the pitty act, precisely.

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Actually, you should say something like "oh, I am sorry for your condition, I'll pitty you and will never mock you anymore".

  

No. The fact that someone is physically disabled is completely irrelevant to this discussion. I'm not going to give special treatment based on such arbitrary criteria. 

And plenty of people have physical disabilities, they just don't tell anyone and everyone about them.

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Im consistent. I believe what I said about reload cancelling. OK, Ill apologize for calling peeps cheaters, but other than that, I stand by most of what I said about it.


Accepted.

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Im only burned, as you put it, if any of this really mattered to me on some kind of personal level. Its a freaking video game for petes sake. To see people get so emotionally charged over it is amazing to me.


Well, your 'board reputation' has suffered from this for sure. Seing that you mentioned being a funny guy on other topics leads me to the conclusion that you do care about how people react to you on this board - at least to some extent. 

I also couldn't tell if somebody is emotionally charged in here. You surely don't have to be emotionally charged to discuss a game on its forums. 

Modifié par spudspot, 30 janvier 2013 - 01:00 .


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Lord_Sirian wrote...

Charaxan wrote...

Actually, you should say something like "oh, I am sorry for your condition, I'll pitty you and will never mock you anymore".

  

No. The fact that someone is physically disabled is completely irrelevant to this discussion. I'm not going to give special treatment based on such arbitrary criteria. 

And plenty of people have physical disabilities, they just don't tell anyone and everyone about them.


You're not the only one who can be sarcastic, you know ! :whistle:

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Lord_Sirian wrote...

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does that mean the bullet reloads faster? i dont think so , and wraith is a bad example anyway

 

The Wraith is actually an excellent example. And yes in terms of animation cancelling, utilising this method means that you'll reload faster than you would if you, for example, charged and then took the time to reload. It does not speed up the actual reload animation itself, rather it combines the animation with another animation (that of a power) to mean that your damage output increases.

thats better said , which like a poster b4 said makes it situational and not reliable.

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I just reload cancel (xbox).

I have a weird way to do it, but it works :)


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mrwizeguy wrote...

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does that mean the bullet reloads faster? i dont think so , and wraith is a bad example anyway

 

The Wraith is actually an excellent example. And yes in terms of animation cancelling, utilising this method means that you'll reload faster than you would if you, for example, charged and then took the time to reload. It does not speed up the actual reload animation itself, rather it combines the animation with another animation (that of a power) to mean that your damage output increases.

thats better said , which like a poster b4 said makes it situational and not reliable.

 

No it can actually be very reliable depending on your build.

The Claymore GI I used is a good example. Cloak ---> shoot --> PM will always work if you time it right.