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How to overlap reload animations with powers, i.e., skipping reloads all together.

Débuté par Distilled Poison , janv. 30 2013 01:39

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#101
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Posté 30 janvier 2013 - 09:48

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Oggy666 wrote...

I am ok with reload canceling...the animation just should end a split second after the magazine/bullet is in (problem is with animation not canceling it, intended or not the rest of animation should not be there, so RCing it is ok).

Power canceling is ok (the same as above), but skipping whole reloading process with power should not be possible (however I do it mostly unintentionally - e.g. that flamer).

But pizza? How is droping the bag 50 times on ground and picking it up while running ok?
This is obviously unintended/bug/whatever. Also that bag should be much bigger to justify inability to run with it. Player should be unable to run, but the walking speed should a lot faster than it is.

In the end, these are not big issues...but would be good to fix skipping reloads and pizza run.


Realistically, the N7 troops are a bunch of panzies if they can't run with that backpack of equipment. Modern soldiers carry upwards of a hundred pounds of equipment and bodyarmor, and that's not form fitted with powered servoes augmenting your strength. I really doubt a tiny laptop of flight records weighs much more than ten pounds, let alone the three hundred that could justify slowing a human to a crawl (AND DON'T GET ME STARTED ON KROGAN).

But there's this thing called separation of gameplay and story.

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Posté 30 janvier 2013 - 09:58

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Not sure what is new here, or really at all different, than Reload Cancelling?

Yes OP, I read the OP and some of the thread. If you wanted a pile of crap, congratulations.

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Posté 30 janvier 2013 - 10:01

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Qui-Gon Glenn wrote...

Not sure what is new here, or really at all different, than Reload Cancelling?

Yes OP, I read the OP and some of the thread. If you wanted a pile of crap, congratulations.

 

It is different.

Simply reload *cancelling* means firing your weapon then cutting off half the animation with medigel or whatever. Power cancelling works best by also reload cancelling, what happens is you can, with proper timing, be reloading and using a power at the same time.

Try it with a Drell Adept for example. Shoot twice with a Wraith, then as soon as you finish the 2nd bullet, use reave. You'll reave, but your ammo counter will also replenish, you can then reload cancel and fire again straight away.

It's basically just cutting the time spent doing nothing (which is what you have to do while reloading) down to an absolute minimum.

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Posté 30 janvier 2013 - 10:04

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^^^ And this is new?

I get it. Been there. Nothing revolutionary. And... Well, this is just not anything new.

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Posté 30 janvier 2013 - 10:06

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Qui-Gon Glenn wrote...

^^^ And this is new?

I get it. Been there. Nothing revolutionary. And... Well, this is just not anything new.

 

Well it's not new to you (or me) but I'm sure it's new to some people.

#106
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Posté 30 janvier 2013 - 10:11

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Noticed this quite a while ago when doing far charges with my Vanguard. It's fun to do but rather situational.

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Posté 30 janvier 2013 - 10:11

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It's new to me, although I was doing it quite a lot, but unintentionally.

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Posté 30 janvier 2013 - 10:13

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count_4 wrote...

Noticed this quite a while ago when doing far charges with my Vanguard. It's fun to do but rather situational.

 

Depends a lot on the build.

On a Claymore GI for example I do it a lot. Cloak --> shoot --> prox mine. Means more time spent using powers/shooting and less time doing long reload animations. 

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Posté 30 janvier 2013 - 10:15

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GallowsPole wrote...

You guys save me time by opening threads about it. Besides, I don't cry. If cheating, excuse me, exploiting the defects of the game strokes your e-peen, that's cool.

I look at you guys like the baseball steroid users who didn't make it into the Hall of Fame with big asterisks next to their stats. They bent the rules too. :bandit: I should be allowed to post my opposing opinion along with these threads. It's America. As long as The Constitution isn't burned, it's my right.


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Posté 30 janvier 2013 - 10:18

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Blind2Society wrote...

GallowsPole wrote...

You guys save me time by opening threads about it. Besides, I don't cry. If cheating, excuse me, exploiting the defects of the game strokes your e-peen, that's cool.

I look at you guys like the baseball steroid users who didn't make it into the Hall of Fame with big asterisks next to their stats. They bent the rules too. :bandit: I should be allowed to post my opposing opinion along with these threads. It's America. As long as The Constitution isn't burned, it's my right.


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He was partially wrong, I'm pretty sure it's Poland.

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Posté 30 janvier 2013 - 10:18

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You guys just ask for me to come back. I love you too.

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Posté 30 janvier 2013 - 10:18

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Kittstalkur wrote...

Realistically, the N7 troops are a bunch of panzies if they can't run with that backpack of equipment. Modern soldiers carry upwards of a hundred pounds of equipment and bodyarmor, and that's not form fitted with powered servoes augmenting your strength. I really doubt a tiny laptop of flight records weighs much more than ten pounds, let alone the three hundred that could justify slowing a human to a crawl (AND DON'T GET ME STARTED ON KROGAN).

But there's this thing called separation of gameplay and story.


The dropping and picking up is BS...that they should be able to run with that small backpack is another thing.
The backpack should be 20x bigger (example)...but you get the point?

Intended gameplay was walking with pizza (logic aside), the current form of running is not really "clever use of...",
its bug/exploit, just not that gamebreaking that they would start banning for it. 

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Posté 30 janvier 2013 - 10:19

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Blind2Society wrote...

GallowsPole wrote...

You guys save me time by opening threads about it. Besides, I don't cry. If cheating, excuse me, exploiting the defects of the game strokes your e-peen, that's cool.

I look at you guys like the baseball steroid users who didn't make it into the Hall of Fame with big asterisks next to their stats. They bent the rules too. :bandit: I should be allowed to post my opposing opinion along with these threads. It's America. As long as The Constitution isn't burned, it's my right.


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Whenever 'Muricans mention their precious Constituion with regard to freedom of speech, while posting on a forum owned by non-Americans, I have to laugh.

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Posté 30 janvier 2013 - 10:20

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Lord_Sirian wrote...

count_4 wrote...

Noticed this quite a while ago when doing far charges with my Vanguard. It's fun to do but rather situational.

 

Depends a lot on the build.

On a Claymore GI for example I do it a lot. Cloak --> shoot --> prox mine. Means more time spent using powers/shooting and less time doing long reload animations. 


this was where I learned it. Love dat GI. :wub:

Well, I am glad that it is new to some veterans, and it is good for the younglings.

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Posté 30 janvier 2013 - 10:20

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If it wasn't for us Americans and our Tier 1 backbones, you guys would be hosting websites off dial up still

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Posté 30 janvier 2013 - 10:22

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GallowsPole wrote...

If it wasn't for us Americans and our Tier 1 backbones, you guys would be hosting websites off dial up still


Ok, which America are we talking about, South or North, I'm confused.

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Posté 30 janvier 2013 - 10:24

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BTW, /report

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Posté 30 janvier 2013 - 10:24

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GallowsPole wrote...

If it wasn't for us Americans and our Tier 1 backbones, you guys would be hosting websites off dial up still

Speaking as an American...
 

Shut up and sleep it off. Let your self-mutilation go for a moment of calm. Or drink a whole lot more, then you might actually make some sense, and at least would have a minute chance of being funny.

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Posté 30 janvier 2013 - 10:25

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So GPole invented the internet?

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Posté 30 janvier 2013 - 10:26

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Qui-Gon Glenn wrote...

GallowsPole wrote...

If it wasn't for us Americans and our Tier 1 backbones, you guys would be hosting websites off dial up still

Speaking as an American...
 

Shut up and sleep it off. Let your self-mutilation go for a moment of calm. Or drink a whole lot more, then you might actually make some sense, and at least would have a minute chance of being funny.

 

I don't think he's drunk... he's just that stupid.

#121
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Posté 30 janvier 2013 - 10:28

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darkpassenger2342 wrote...

So GPole invented the internet?


Well, not the whole GallowsPole. Just the first tier of his backbone, I think.

And if GPole is 'Murican, then why is he a Pole?

So confused right now.

#122
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Posté 30 janvier 2013 - 10:31

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stysiaq wrote...

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

So GPole invented the internet?


Well, not the whole GallowsPole. Just the first tier of his backbone, I think.

And if GPole is 'Murican, then why is he a Pole?

So confused right now.


oh, ok, im confused too, because he said us, which would imply he actually did something.

#123
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Posté 30 janvier 2013 - 10:31

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By the way, just as a FYI, do a Whois on Bioware and tell me where the site is hosted again?

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Posté 30 janvier 2013 - 10:34

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Last time I checked Biower were Canadian.

And on a forum owned by someone else, your freedom of speech doesn't mean jack. Stop pretending that it does.

#125
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Posté 30 janvier 2013 - 10:35

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GallowsPole wrote...

By the way, just as a FYI, do a Whois on Bioware and tell me where the site is hosted again?


Dude, nobody wants to infringe your right to freedom of speech - which is neither an american invention nor a feature exclusive to the USA.
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