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[DullahansXMark]

no1hascontrol wrote...

Sync-kills aren't cheap, you need them or vanguards would dominate multiplayer, or Krogan headbutts would fly like Southwest Airlines.

Because my Novaguard/Kroguard/Slayer can so easily out-DPS a Turian Ghost.

Your argument is sucky and you should feel sucky.

[Bob Hope]

Is it just me, or has there been a lot of whinebrag posts lately? Between the guys asking for diamon/titanium yesterday and the ones today like this guy and that "Does it get lamer than this" fool.


Funny thing is that I tend to stalk their gamer profile to see if they're actually good enough to back up their claims. Never seem to have them public tho. Odd. Then they start throwing insults at people like Lord_Sirian and others that obviously play platinum all the time.

[Blitzkrieg_33]

Am I too late to join the watch party?

[NuclearTech76]

HolyAvenger wrote...

NuclearTech76 wrote...

HolyAvenger wrote...

NuclearTech76 wrote...

OP you need to learn WTF you're talking about before calling others out. The bubble that phantoms put up isn't a problem, it's the acrobatics that give her like 90% DR when played on host. Players who host should have a plan for phantoms in Cerberus games or Unknown/Unknown lobbies.

Curious to know what level you normally play at OP?

She gets insane DR in the bubble too.

Not a Javalin shot to the head DR that I've noticed. The flipping BS though they can take a Claymore shot to the head and laugh at you.

Oh really?

I can't see it at work they've got it blocked. All I can say is I routinely one shot them in the face with the Javelin on host with the DAI on Gold while they are bubbled up.

[spudspot]

no1hascontrol wrote...

Yes, she gets DR when bubble and acrobats. But she is supposed to be difficult? That's why Cerberus is difficult. She is one of the last couple of difficult people on Cerberus. I don't want her on easy mode, then what?

Nobody claims that she should be nerfed to swarmer levels in terms of difficulty. Rather that making her tougher by a mechanic that doesn't work off-host and works a little too well on-host isn't good from a balancing point of view.

Imho, they should just buff her health and barriers and remove that dr - because the latter is buggy as hell and only penalizes one out of possibly four players.

It also doesn't make sense to penalize players for taking the harder shot by trying to hit her while she is flipping and making her an easy kill via headshots with heavy snipers through solid objects while she is a sitting duck behind cover.

NuclearTech76 wrote...

I think the GPS ignores DR so that could be the reason you're not having issues. Plus Reave stacking is pretty effective against them. They're the one enemy that you have to make arraingements for though

I guess it's rather that she can't dance while she is staggered.

Modifié par spudspot, 30 janvier 2013 - 02:25 .

[no1hascontrol]

Everyone complains about the difference of on-host and off-host, but you do have teammates... Let them plug a few in her then if you feel you can't as the host. This is a team game. Only a soloer should have a problem with on-host phantoms, and which I already said they have it tough and I don't mean anything against them.

For the rest of us, we have 4 players that can work as a team and easily dominate.

[Mendelevosa]

no1hascontrol wrote...

Mendelevosa wrote...

Taking control away from players is bad game design.

Your argument is invalid.

how did they take control away? Are you forced to walk up to a banshee and high five her? Do you have to shoot a phantom with her bubble up? No, that makes your argument invalid. 


Edit: I play gold regularly. 

Gtag: greyfox forlorn

They take control away by making it impossible for the player to counteract while he/she is in the process of getting sync-killed by an enemy. It would be aceptable if players could have techniques that allow them to break free or ignore the instant death effect of sync-kills. But since there is no direct counter for this, it is bad game design. Plus you have to remember that glitchy mechanics, substandard servers, and poor host connection causes enemies to sync-kill enemies outside of their immediate melee range and ignore other prerequisites.

And you do realize that with all the pressure that each enemy presses on players, it can become difficult to avoid sync-killing enemies, right. All players will eventually encounter these types of enemies at close range. Whether of not someone rarely gets affected by this mechanic, there is no good reason to make it impossible for players to counteract when they are victims.

With the case of melee characters, mechanics such as insta-kills create huge bias against vanguards and other melee-focused characters, and causes favoritism for medium and long range characters. Mechanics should not punish a specific playstyle in such a way.

EDIT: Your post about shooting Phantoms really shows how little you appear to know about how this game works.

Modifié par Mendelevosa, 30 janvier 2013 - 02:30 .

[ISHYGDDT]

I really hope OP is trolling.

[spudspot]

no1hascontrol wrote...

Everyone complains about the difference of on-host and off-host, but you do have teammates... Let them plug a few in her then if you feel you can't as the host. This is a team game. Only a soloer should have a problem with on-host phantoms, and which I already said they have it tough and I don't mean anything against them.

For the rest of us, we have 4 players that can work as a team and easily dominate.

Just because it's a co-op doesn't mean that the difference between how the game plays on or off host shouldn't be as small as possible.

[billy the squid]

NuclearTech76 wrote...

Carlina wrote...

The only problem I have with PHantoms is when they sneak up behind you. The rest of the time I stay at a good distance and they usually go down with a couple of powers and 3/4 shots from Mattock X. I started playing Asari Justicar thru recent unlock and paired her with Arc Pistol and GP Shotgun both X. Phantoms go down even quicker.

And I ALWAYS host. Maybe I've just got used to them coz I used to die a lot before getting more or less max'd manifest.

I think the GPS ignores DR so that could be the reason you're not having issues. Plus Reave stacking is pretty effective against them. They're the one enemy that you have to make arraingements for though

It's the hit scan weapons that really suffer against Phantoms on host. The GPS is very effective against them, providing you don't suffer inordinate lag causing the plasma shot to miss. 

Although I'd question 3/4 shots with a Mattock to take down a phantom, that's not something I've seen on Gold. 

[no1hascontrol]

Lord_Sirian wrote...

OP's manifest indicates that he is predominantly a Silver player who occasionally ventures into Gold.

lolz how so? I regularly play gold. I have been playing since release so yes I have played bronze, silver, gold, and platinum. I don't missile glitch, or use exploits. I worked my way up legitimately from bronze to gold earning my manifest. 

[Das Rouse]

no1hascontrol wrote...

Yes, she gets DR when bubble and acrobats. But she is supposed to be difficult? That's why Cerberus is difficult. She is one of the last couple of difficult people on Cerberus. I don't want her on easy mode, then what?

You realize that DR like what the Phantom has is literally invincibility frames.  The only time I see a phantom die mid flip was from either being stasis'd/SN'd or that lucky Javelin shot.

[Mendelevosa]

[Blitzkrieg_33]

Lord_Sirian wrote...

And you have plenty of silver waves but not that many gold waves. Meaning you play Silver at least as much as you play Gold.

That may or may not be true. Not agreeing with OP, but one could play gold on the same maps frequently, or even the "Hazard" maps which account for a large chunk of maps in the unknown pool.

[no1hascontrol]

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Bob Hope wrote...

Funny thing is that I tend to stalk their gamer profile to see if they're actually good enough to back up their claims. Never seem to have them public tho. Odd. Then they start throwing insults at people like Lord_Sirian and others that obviously play platinum all the time.

 

Well I don't play Plat any more, but I don't find it difficult.  

I do have to laugh when I get told to "L2P" though. 

when did I ever tell you to learn to play? Did you feel this OP was directed at you? I didn't remember typing your name

[NuclearTech76]

no1hascontrol wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...

OP's manifest indicates that he is predominantly a Silver player who occasionally ventures into Gold.

lolz how so? I regularly play gold. I have been playing since release so yes I have played bronze, silver, gold, and platinum. I don't missile glitch, or use exploits. I worked my way up legitimately from bronze to gold earning my manifest. 

You don't have map mastery completed at all and don't have that many gold waves on some maps.  You've got 156 games played and you're telling people who have logged thousands of games to L2P.

[Bob Hope]

Lord_Sirian wrote...

OP's manifest indicates that he is predominantly a Silver player who occasionally ventures into Gold.

Apparently I suck at stalking manifests since I couldn't find his. How'd you find it?
EDIT: Nevermind. Didn't see his response with his gamertag.

Also, it makes sense if he doesn't understand why people **** about stun locking if he sticks mostly to silver.

Modifié par Bob Hope, 30 janvier 2013 - 02:37 .

[billy the squid]

Lord_Sirian wrote...

no1hascontrol wrote...

Yes, she gets DR when bubble and acrobats. But she is supposed to be difficult? That's why Cerberus is difficult. She is one of the last couple of difficult people on Cerberus. I don't want her on easy mode, then what?

 

Phantoms on host are at least 5 x tankier than they are off host.

That's stupid, it's a bug, and it needs to be fixed.

On host Phantoms x3 shots from a BW IX on a cloaked GI and they keep coming. Off host 2 headshots, or 1 Headshot and a body shot, from the same and they're down. I hate dealing with phantoms on host. Off host is how it should be. 

[no1hascontrol]

Lord_Sirian wrote...

no1hascontrol wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...

OP's manifest indicates that he is predominantly a Silver player who occasionally ventures into Gold.

lolz how so? I regularly play gold. I have been playing since release so yes I have played bronze, silver, gold, and platinum. I don't missile glitch, or use exploits. I worked my way up legitimately from bronze to gold earning my manifest. 

 

And you have plenty of silver waves but not that many gold waves. Meaning you play Silver at least as much as you play Gold.

of course I have played silver before. I started on bronze and plenty of those waves too. How does that mean I only play silver?

[Dokteur Kill]

no1hascontrol wrote...

Everyone complains about the difference of on-host and off-host, but you do have teammates... Let them plug a few in her then if you feel you can't as the host. This is a team game. Only a soloer should have a problem with on-host phantoms, and which I already said they have it tough and I don't mean anything against them.

For the rest of us, we have 4 players that can work as a team and easily dominate.

That. Doesn't. Change. The. Fact. That. It's. Bad. Coding!