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#151
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HolyAvenger wrote...

no1hascontrol wrote...

 She can teleport over cover but not through walls. 


Clueless OP is clueless.


QFT

#152
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I don't think you understand the nature of the complaints.

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Spartanburger wrote...

I'll be completely honest here. I've been hosting games pretty much exclusively for the last 3 months, and I have never seen any kind of "Damage Reduction" done to Phantoms as the host. Hell, they're easier to kill on host because there isn't any lag.


Can you kill a phantom with one Claymore headshot on Gold?

Phantoms have a combined 4762 health+shields.

While a Claymore does:  1.25*1648*2.5 = 5150 damage with HVB+ a headshot (assuming no passives or other damage boosts.)
 
If I take a weapons class like the GI and get a solid claymore headshot on a phantom on-host I will drop maybe 4 bars of her barrier, even though I have enough damage to kill two phantoms.

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Most of the time you don't think you get sync killed by a banshee cause it was your fault? Did she surprise you? Cause its hard to NOT hear her. And I don't believe for one second that the majority of times is not your fault. That's total e-peen stroking that you say it's not your fault. If you didn't hear her coming and turned to see her, that is still your fault and your teams for not warning you.

And the whole one hit claymore is stupid. That is why they give her a shield, to stop claymores and powers from one hitting her. She is supposed to be difficult, the same as a banshee. A banshee is supposed to scare you and make you move, sync kills are her major offense. That's why she teleports to you, otherwise she could stand back and throw warp balls all day....

Stop whining cause you died to a sync kill. You died, now sit there and watch your team try to finish the round. That's the excitement, that you need a four man team.

lastly the guy that said he didn't remember me 1 or 2 having that stuff is right. They didn't. But insanity mode for me1 which I am doing on a full playthrough, meant that most enemies had the fitness skill (and so did player) to severely lower the damage taken. It's bend around since then. And it's not more difficult on insanity mode, it's just more time consuming for that reason. Every enemy just has increased shields. I don't want that for MP. That was boring and time consuming. All these things make vanguards and Keller characters think twice, and the rest of us change our tactics. Otherwise it is just run and gun for thirty minutes. Until I get bored and quit. 

Modifié par no1hascontrol, 30 janvier 2013 - 06:37 .


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Is it just me or have the aggressive tendencies of all posters been buffed to an overpowered state?

I blame Lust-A-Roids by Hahne Kedar. :?

Modifié par tMc Tallgeese, 30 janvier 2013 - 07:17 .


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Talking to OP is like talking to a brick wall. It's almost like he deliberately misses every point that people try to make.

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no1hascontrol wrote...

And the whole one hit claymore is stupid. That is why they give her a shield, to stop claymores and powers from one hitting her. She is supposed to be difficult, the same as a banshee.


In case you're talking about Phantoms, I'd just like to ask you again why this difficulty being achieved through a mechanic that is buggy and therefore makes them easy to kill off-host and unholy bullet sponges on-host isn't a bad thing?

I mean, you're saying that Phantoms are supposed to be difficult and then you defend that this is achieved by something which makes 'em hard to kill on-host but not off-host.

So what you wish for - a Phantom that is actually a tough opponent - is only true for 1 out of 4 players. (That of course excludes a hosting Slayer and a few others.)

Modifié par spudspot, 30 janvier 2013 - 07:29 .


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Lord_Sirian wrote...

Beerfish wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...



How is it player error when enemies are supposed to do one thing and do another? I'm mainly talking about Phantoms here. They're supposed to prime their sync-kill with a melee attack. But half the time they just don't. All they need to do is start 0.000000000000000001% of the melee animation, and regardless of whether it was visible or not, they can then sync-kill until they cloak or take cover. That's absurd. That's when you get situations like where someone lashes a Phantom across the map, where it instantly sync-kills someone (has happened to me). 

That's not player error. That's BS. 

Plus how is it player error if they get slashed by a Phantom, run 20 metres away and get magnet-handsed back by the Phantom? Or when you are several feet behind a Brute, and it teleports you around to the front in order to sync kill you. That's not player error, that's a load of absolute nonsense.


lol opponents are supposed to do one thing and don't?  Someone is too used to a formula of how every spawn occurs in one location, every enemy action is painted out in a sequence of events.  Knowing that they do not obey all of these rules you have quoted, stay the hell away from them.  this fits in very nicely with all the anti stasis threads as in people always saying 'you don't need stasis vs phantoms just do the following.

You must be very unlucky or just used to playing too aggressive in that case as I very rarely have those things happen unless I let the dangerous opponent get too close or in a certain location.

 

Right... I'll just stay the hell away from half the enemies in the game. Sure, who the hell plays Vanguards anyway? Those are for tryhards and n00bs. 

Enemies in this game are SUPPOSED to have a formula. That's how PvE mechanics work. When there is inconsistency, player skill becomes irrelevant to the equation. Basically the only times I get sync-killed, there is BS involved.


Like not paying attention but somehow that is the games fault, guess you (andeveryoneelsewithADD) want a tap on the shoulder 

Modifié par Alijah Green, 30 janvier 2013 - 07:48 .


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Alijah Green wrote...

Like not paying attention but somehow that is the games fault guess you (andeveryoneelsewithADD) want a tap on the shoulder 

 

My moron alarm just went off.

Modifié par Lord_Sirian, 30 janvier 2013 - 07:46 .


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lktalon22

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Wow! You guys are still going strong?!

Cool...

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My biggest problem with the damage reduction is often she won't stand still. She does here cheap A cartwheel over and over. This is especially infuriating when playing a sniper

PS: On host I have seen Phantom DR make my black widow X do one bar of damage.

Modifié par born2beagator, 30 janvier 2013 - 07:52 .


#162
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awwwwww did I hurt your feelings

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Alijah Green wrote...

awwwwww did I hurt your feelings

 

Nope. Stupidity doesn't hurt my feelings. Only my brain. And then only when its in huge quantities. 

You owe my brain an apology.

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no1hascontrol wrote...

Lol those pics.... I lolzed hard


Edit: yes I do host frequently when I play slayer or shadow.  And no, phantoms still aren't a problem. 

You do understand that whatever e-peen you thought you had shrinks when you make ignorant inflammatory comments like this.  If you're trying to grow your e-peen, which is what i suspect this topic is really about, you must make knowledgeable inflammatory statements.  Videos showing you OHKing on host phantoms will suffice.

Modifié par STRANGE10VE, 30 janvier 2013 - 07:58 .


#165
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the same brain complaining about sync-kills, I am sorry that you are feeble-minded

#166
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@OP
You are too arrogant.

Modifié par robarcool, 30 janvier 2013 - 08:00 .


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Alijah Green wrote...

the same brain complaining about sync-kills, I am sorry that you are feeble-minded

 

Childish insults with no actual accompanying argument.

What next? You gonna ask me if I even lift? :lol:

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Lord_Sirian wrote...

Alijah Green wrote...

awwwwww did I hurt your feelings

 

Nope. Stupidity doesn't hurt my feelings. Only my brain. And then only when its in huge quantities. 

You owe my brain an apology.


Ohhhh!!!! Image IPB

I LOVE this guy!

#169
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Lord_Sirian wrote...

Alijah Green wrote...

the same brain complaining about sync-kills, I am sorry that you are feeble-minded

 

Childish insults with no actual accompanying argument.

What next? You gonna ask me if I even lift? :lol:

insert think for lift, that would be a better question;).  How could I argue when I don't seem to have a problem with sync-kills.  Maybe someone can make you video (BSN learning channel) 

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You know trolling is supposed to work by people not realising you're just after a reaction.

Try to be a bit less obvious next time, maybe it will work for you some day.

#171
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C'mon guys! Can't you see this is Cerberus just trying to tear us apart?!

Friggen Phantoms...

#172
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Dracian wrote...

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+1 internets for you :lol:

#173
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Come on maaaaan.

Why can't we all just get along?!?

*giggles*

#174
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Lord_Sirian wrote...

Talking to OP is like talking to a brick wall. It's almost like he deliberately misses every point that people try to make.


Yes, it's called being a troll.

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Lord_Sirian wrote...

You know trolling is supposed to work by people not realising you're just after a reaction.

Try to be a bit less obvious next time, maybe it will work for you some day.


I have faith in you, you will get better.  not sure what that trolling stuff means