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[sharkboy421]

BirdsallSa wrote...
If he wouldn't have found a solution to the organic-synthetic conflict and started the cycles, synthetics would have extinguished all organic life.

This right here is the problem.  Call the thing whatever you will, but changing its name does not change why, I at least, find it so deplorable.  That said, having it appear as the human child was a really poor decision I think.

[Unschuld]

BirdsallSa wrote...

He is not some human child he is the Intelligence for crying out loud. He was built eons ago by those who recognized there would always be conflict between organics and synthetics. If it weren't for him humanity would have never existed. In fact, no organics would exist at all! He is the most knowledgable being in the galaxy and it's largely due to him that we're given the privelage of choosing Synthesis.
 
A lot of people try to dismiss his credibility by calling him "the kid" when he only appeared like that so he would be non-threatening to Shepard. This symbolizes that he was never interested in war, but finding a peaceful solution that works for everyone.

PLF

Well then maybe he shouldn't have taken the form of, you know, a human child. 

[CaptainCommander]

He is The Kid though. He appears to the right of the Alliance building then is suddenly on the balcony of the room the Reapers blow up yet he survives. The catalyst would make a better attempt to do what Leviathan did and cycle appearances!

[TheWerdna]

BirdsallSa wrote...

mosesarose wrote...

BirdsallSa wrote...

 If it weren't for him humanity would have never existed. In fact, no organics would exist at all! 

How is this true, when in fact it was a organic race who created the brat. 

If he wouldn't have found a solution to the organic-synthetic conflict and started the cycles, synthetics would have extinguished all organic life. Humanity would have never even gotten a shot. The Intelligence is the only reason any of the races we know and love in the Mass Effect Universe exist. The Intelligence is the Mass Effect Universe, really.

Ahahah, no. That is assuming he is correct, which I find very likely. Notice that he was himself an AI who turned on his creators (who had only made him to try and geth peace between syntheics and organics) after going completely mental and acting upon bat**** insane logic.

Also, I call BS on the fact that "synthetics will extinguish all organic life." In game we have three named examples of synthetics and organics fighting...and fun fact, in every case they were either peacefuly interacting, or the organics were going to win.

1) The unamed synthetics during the Prothean's cycle. After hundreds of years of fighting, the Protheans were about to win; only for the Reapers to appear and screw it up.

2) The Zha'til, aka The other synthetics during the prothean cycle. This was a race whose planet was dying, so they augmented themselves with cybernetics and AI. If you bring Javik on the Geth dreadnaut mission he states that these organic/synthetic hybrids were perfectyly peaceful....until the Reapers showed up and took control of the syntheic half to use them to fight. against the protheans

3) The Geth. During the events of Mass Effect 3, the quarians were winning in their effort to retake Rannoch. However, before the losing geth could be destroyed, the Reapers interviened.


So ya, from the evidence we have shows organics as winning against synthetics, and in all three cases we know of any issues arrise from the Reapers themselves getting invovled. AKA starbrat's retarded solution causes more problems then it actually solves.

[BirdsallSa]

KevShep wrote...

BirdsallSa wrote...

mosesarose wrote...

BirdsallSa wrote...

 If it weren't for him humanity would have never existed. In fact, no organics would exist at all! 

How is this true, when in fact it was a organic race who created the brat. 

If he wouldn't have found a solution to the organic-synthetic conflict and started the cycles, synthetics would have extinguished all organic life. Humanity would have never even gotten a shot. The Intelligence is the only reason any of the races we know and love in the Mass Effect Universe exist. The Intelligence is the Mass Effect Universe, really.

and yet here we have the Geth actually trying to understand organics and in a short time they have made outstanding strides in doing so. Geth actually wanted to live beside us in peace.

We even came to an understanding between us and them and formed a peace. Why couldnt the reapers have done the same thing? Also if synthesis is the final stage of evolution then why are the reapers trying to stop us from getting to that stage of evolution?

I agree with the poster that said "The Intelligence is just misunderstood.", and that lack of understanding comes from people not paying attention to the dialogue. He says that only once the Crucible changed the variables did he come to realize Synthesis was inevitable and the final evolution of life. Think of it as, being a Reaper without really being a Reaper.

By harvesting us the Reapers were creating their own version of synthesis. Not as pure as the one Shepard creates by fusing with the beam, but still a significant improvement from what we had. He is the hero we need. Truer words have never been spoken.

[10K]

BirdsallSa wrote...

mosesarose wrote...

BirdsallSa wrote...

 If it weren't for him humanity would have never existed. In fact, no organics would exist at all! 

How is this true, when in fact it was a organic race who created the brat. 

If he wouldn't have found a solution to the organic-synthetic conflict and started the cycles, synthetics would have extinguished all organic life. Humanity would have never even gotten a shot. The Intelligence is the only reason any of the races we know and love in the Mass Effect Universe exist. The Intelligence is the Mass Effect Universe, really.

You assume that there was a conflict between organics and sythetics, but there was no major evidence of this. Besides the war between the geth and the quarians, but even then we find out it was quarians who started this war not the geth. Plus before the end of ME3 we could get the geth and quarians to work together to stop the "Intelligence". 

Only war between organics and sythetics I see, is the one going on between your "intelligence" brat and the rest of the galaxy. He is the one who's creating this supposed conflict, not the geth or any other synthetic.

[JesseLee202]

BirdsallSa wrote...

He is far from the worst character in the entire franchise. I would argue he's the greatest one. When my Shepard started hovering up after the chat with Anderson, I had my doubts. However, after I had a conversation with The Intelligence, I knew that my Mass Effect journey had come to a satisfying end, and it was all worth it.

Are you on red sand?

[fiendishchicken]

You listen to his crap? It's terrible.

It's a ****ing bad joke, with no punch line.

The glowstick, pint sized lite brite, starjar being of plot contrivance.

Worst of all, he's just bad writing.

0/10

BTW, it's pretty obvious OP is a troll.

Modifié par fiendishchicken, 30 janvier 2013 - 07:46 .

[Kel Riever]

I added an image to my post. One of the favorite I've seen. Kicking the Glowjob. Simply excellent.

Modifié par Kel Riever, 30 janvier 2013 - 07:44 .

[TheWerdna]

JesseLee202 wrote...

BirdsallSa wrote...

He is far from the worst character in the entire franchise. I would argue he's the greatest one. When my Shepard started hovering up after the chat with Anderson, I had my doubts. However, after I had a conversation with The Intelligence, I knew that my Mass Effect journey had come to a satisfying end, and it was all worth it.

Are you on red sand?

Well, he is either an obvious troll, or completely out of his mind. Take your pick.

[Iakus]

SO BE IT!!!

[Leem_0001]

Something has just struck me - I remember reading a load of articles on the build up to the release of ME3 where certain 'unbiased' review sites mentioned early play throughs of the game and all of them mentioned how profound and sad the death of the child at the beginning was. Not just one site, quite a few.

When I played that part I remember thinking it wasn't as sad and profound as they had made out, by a long shot. So why was such a big deal made out of it?

Knowing what we know now about the endings and the STARCHILD, I'm starting to think that it is all one big conspiricy and EA *asked* sites to make specific mention to this to try and get it into our heads.

Hmmm - ladies and gents I give you Stachild Conspiricy Theory!!!! lol

[themikefest]

I just call it the Leviathan Turd

[JesseLee202]

TheWerdna wrote...

JesseLee202 wrote...

BirdsallSa wrote...

He is far from the worst character in the entire franchise. I would argue he's the greatest one. When my Shepard started hovering up after the chat with Anderson, I had my doubts. However, after I had a conversation with The Intelligence, I knew that my Mass Effect journey had come to a satisfying end, and it was all worth it.

Are you on red sand?

Well, he is either an obvious troll, or completely out of his mind. Take your pick.

Can't be both? 

[Mr.House]

I can call him starbrat all I want. Just because you like it does not mean others don't and they can't call this horrible thing funny names.

[Peranor]

Kel Riever wrote...

Do you mean this starbrat right here? *slaps the starbrat*

This isn't human? *slaps the starbrat again*

Why do you think I'm slapping it? Do you think I would really slap a human child *slaps the starbrat again*

Oh, so you don't want me to call it starbrat? *slaps the starbrat again*

Okay, so I will call it a 'Glowjob' like someone mentioned *slaps the glowjob*

I can see you are already happy. Glad to oblige *slaps the glowjob, kills all the reapers, and no one else dies, including self. Promptly blows up the Citadel without making any other idiotic choices provided by bad writers*

[fiendishchicken]

OP is a troll everyone.

[dirty console peasant]

Kel Riever wrote...

I added an image to my post. One of the favorite I've seen. Kicking the Glowjob. Simply excellent.

I love that picture, it has been my desktop backround for a few weeks now, ever since I first saw it.

[Anthadlas]

The final convo should have been between Shepard and Harbinger.

Preferably just before you unload the Crucible in his face

Modifié par Wraith 02, 30 janvier 2013 - 07:49 .

[DeinonSlayer]

BirdsallSa wrote...

If he wouldn't have found a solution to the organic-synthetic conflict and started the cycles, synthetics would have extinguished all organic life.

I reject this assertion. We defeated the Geth. We would have done so easier were it not for Reaper intervention, and the problem would never have occurred if the Council races stepped in to help three hundred years ago instead of watching the Quarians burn.

The Protheans would have defeated the Zha'til had it not been for Reaper intervention. It would never have happened in the first place if they helped the Zha, like the Hanar assisting the Drell. If we aid each other when the problem first arises, if we help each other instead of watching our neighbors burn, there's no telling what we're capable of.

I can make similar arguments for the Peace and Geth Victory outcomes, too.

[Kel Riever]

Thank you, anorling! And no problem dirty console peasant.  I wish I made it myself.

Modifié par Kel Riever, 30 janvier 2013 - 07:49 .

[BirdsallSa]

His name is The Intelligence. You guys are manipulating everything he's done to make it seem bad. Everything he's done, he did it for the good of all organics and synthetics alike. If you can't see that and choose to call him "The Starchild" or some other variant, I think that's just choosing to live in delusion.

[AresKeith]

Starbrat starbrat starbrat starbrat

problem?

[GHNR]

fiendishchicken wrote...

OP is a troll everyone.

Yes, we get it, you don't agree with him, and that makes him a troll. WE GET IT.

[Kel Riever]

BirdsallSa wrote...

His name is The Intelligence. You guys are manipulating everything he's done to make it seem bad. Everything he's done, he did it for the good of all organics and synthetics alike. If you can't see that and choose to call him "The Starchild" or some other variant, I think that's just choosing to live in delusion.

Hehehe, I don't even care if its a troll.  Because it has opened the door to fun times!