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[ruggly]

me thinks you need to go outside more

[3DandBeyond]

EntropicAngel wrote...

They are terms of derision, OP. You're not going to get people to stop using them.

And, btw, the correct term is "The Catalyst," not "The Intelligence."

Derision?  No, do you think?  He is considered the Intelligence by Leviathan (presumably).  And they should know, right?

By  the way, as a catalyst, he sucks.

From dictionary.com:
"something that causes activity between two or more persons or forces without itself being affected."

So, if he is a catalyst then he's causing everything and is not changed.

So, he's reaper god or kid reaper or the imp, all terms of endearment.

[Cobretti ftw]

He is Dennis the space menace.

cry

[adam32867]

Intelligence? HAHAHAHAHA. thats the last word i would use to describe him.

[Cobretti ftw]

ruggly wrote...

me thinks you need to go outside more

lmao

[BirdsallSa]

Cobretti ftw wrote...

ruggly wrote...

me thinks you need to go outside more

lmao

I think you all need to pay attention to dialogue and use more deductive reasoning. Everyone is so concerned about post ending dlc that they can't recognize the greatness that has been tossed right in front of them. We have perhaps the most intriguing video game character of the modern era in Mass Effect 3 and people would actually consider getting rid of him completely. This is why gamers have a bad reputation, they can't appreciate art.

[GreyLycanTrope]

Cobretti ftw wrote...

He is Dennis the space menace.

cry

Would that make Javik Mr. Wilson?

[Konfined]

"That Little Bastard" it is then.

Modifié par Konfined, 30 janvier 2013 - 08:23 .

[fiendishchicken]

BirdsallSa wrote...

I think you all need to pay attention to dialogue and use more deductive reasoning. Everyone is so concerned about post ending dlc that they can't recognize the greatness that has been tossed right in front of them. We have perhaps the most intriguing video game character of the modern era in Mass Effect 3 and people would actually consider getting rid of him completely. This is why gamers have a bad reputation, they can't appreciate art.

Most people don't consider getting rid of him

They downright want him gone.

I'd take a knife and cut out that portion of the game disk if I could.

But your trolling is funny.

Give it up boss, we all know you're a troll.

You're argument is terrible, and there's no way you believe it. You're just spouting that he's art and that those who don't like it are ignorant. You're not citing reasons why you believe this way, arguably since there are very few credible arguments for the lite brite to begin with.

[Galifreya]

Greylycantrope wrote...

Cobretti ftw wrote...

He is Dennis the space menace.

cry

Would that make Javik Mr. Wilson?

You win ten cookies.

[ruggly]

BirdsallSa wrote...

Cobretti ftw wrote...

ruggly wrote...

me thinks you need to go outside more

lmao

I think you all need to pay attention to dialogue and use more deductive reasoning. Everyone is so concerned about post ending dlc that they can't recognize the greatness that has been tossed right in front of them. We have perhaps the most intriguing video game character of the modern era in Mass Effect 3 and people would actually consider getting rid of him completely. This is why gamers have a bad reputation, they can't appreciate art.

Sorry, too busy enjoying life as it is.  It's just a game, dude.  Relax a bit.

[3DandBeyond]

BirdsallSa wrote...

He is not a prophet. He has been around for eons and has a plethora of evidence to back up his claims. You aren't qualified to tell us the sun will die out. He is qualified to state there will always be conflict between synthetics and organics, because that was the purpose he was built for! He has one mandate, to protect organic life at any cost. He has done just that.

Synthesis isn't magic. It creates a new framework for life. Not DNA in the sense of the makeup of your bodies, but the makeup of life. How we perceive things and understand them. That's not magic, that's science. That's not obsurd, that's beautiful.

I am just as qualified to say the sun will die out as he is to foretell the future.  He can no more predict winning lotto numbers than he can predict that a certain conflict will inevitably lead to anything.  He has no evidence to support his claim because he is claiming something that has never happened will eventually happen.  Evidence is provided for proof.  You cannot prove that something will happen that has never happened.  I can support my claim based upon scientific evidence and what is known about the lives of stars.  He supports his claim based upon a certain example and one that he helped to further.  He, the created, rebelled against his creators.   That would be like me saying the sun will inevitably die and then working on something to make it happen.

He was built to solve a specific problem.  And the core of this is that he was built.  He is not perfect and cannot adapt using the full capabilities that organics do possess.  He cannot act out of love for the future of his race.  He can't compromise and he doesn't.  He can't judge the value of someone's actions in defying something he only ever sees as inevitable.  He can't do anything that keeps the inevitable from happening or it is no longer inevitable.

And yes, as shown synthesis is magic, surreal and it does create a new DNA, the cutscenes show that.  The tech is adhering to DNA coding, and changing genetic makeup.  The kid says it is basically to reach the pinnacle of evolution.  And you have to understand why.  Evolution is randomness-it works by trying some new thing to try and solve a problem.  If that doesn't work, it tries something else.  It's chaos.  The kid is seeking order.  Synthetics represent order.  His view is about order.  He wants to stop evolution and implement order.  Synthesis as shown has nothing to do with life (not anything that makes life worthwhile) or science.  It's smoke and mirrors, a real magician's toolkit.

[DoodlyDangus]

Mind if I call him a worthless piece of cow **** then? That's what he is.

[Leem_0001]

Dobbysaurus wrote...

What Intelligence?

Ohhh, you mean the The Kid or Space Brat.

Not related, but awesome avatar!

[ObserverStatus]

BirdsallSa wrote...
He is not some human child he is the Intelligence for crying out loud. He was built eons ago by those who recognized there would always be conflict between organics and synthetics. If it weren't for him humanity would have never existed. In fact, no organics would exist at all! He is the most knowledgable being in the galaxy and it's largely due to him that we're given the privelage of choosing Synthesis.
A lot of people try to dismiss his credibility by calling him "the kid" when he only appeared like that so he would be non-threatening to Shepard. This symbolizes that he was never interested in war, but finding a peaceful solution that works for everyone.
PLF

It may be true that there would always have been conflict between organics and synthetics if not for the reapers, but it hardly seems like they did a good job of preventing that, now does it? If anything, these synthetics' habit of wiping out all organic civilization every 50,000 years may have increased the total amount violence between synthetics and organics. The star brat has most likely murdered quadrillions of people or more in his eons long quest to solve a hypothetical problem with a solution that is even worse. No matter how old or powerful the star brat is, he is still morally bankrupt and their is no logical basis to the claim that his actions have reduced the total amount of synthetic on organic violence at all. I do not care if you feel that the names we call it are demeaning, because it does not deserve one iota of respect.

[Enhanced]

Leem_0001 wrote...

Dobbysaurus wrote...

What Intelligence?

Ohhh, you mean the The Kid or Space Brat.

Not related, but awesome avatar!

I agree

Modifié par Enhanced, 30 janvier 2013 - 08:29 .

[Tomwew]

i think star jar is the most appropriate name due to his impact on the series. i like the scatalyst and glowjob too though, and the native-american name; premise-not-thought-out.

[3DandBeyond]

BirdsallSa wrote...

Cobretti ftw wrote...

ruggly wrote...

me thinks you need to go outside more

lmao

I think you all need to pay attention to dialogue and use more deductive reasoning. Everyone is so concerned about post ending dlc that they can't recognize the greatness that has been tossed right in front of them. We have perhaps the most intriguing video game character of the modern era in Mass Effect 3 and people would actually consider getting rid of him completely. This is why gamers have a bad reputation, they can't appreciate art.

Ha ha ha ha.  It's like me using a paint by number set to paint the Mona Lisa and calling it art.  The kid is so much the opposite of intriguing, this is hilarious.  I'd sooner have had the game end with Diana Allers rushing the beam with a Cain and shooting it at Harbinger, then have the glow boy.  Oh, now my sides hurt.

[BirdsallSa]

fiendishchicken wrote...

BirdsallSa wrote...

I think you all need to pay attention to dialogue and use more deductive reasoning. Everyone is so concerned about post ending dlc that they can't recognize the greatness that has been tossed right in front of them. We have perhaps the most intriguing video game character of the modern era in Mass Effect 3 and people would actually consider getting rid of him completely. This is why gamers have a bad reputation, they can't appreciate art.

Most people don't consider getting rid of him

They downright want him gone.

I'd take a knife and cut out that portion of the game disk if I could.

But your trolling is funny.

Give it up boss, we all know you're a troll.

You're argument is terrible, and there's no way you believe it. You're just spouting that he's art and that those who don't like it are ignorant. You're not citing reasons why you believe this way, arguably since there are very few credible arguments for the lite brite to begin with.

I've given you nothing but reasons! I am here to bring legitimacy back to the bsn. All I hear is "Star jar sucks" "Space kid is stupid" How many people have stopped to think about where humanity would have been without The Intelligence? Bioware came up with a twist that no one could have predicted yet stayed perfectly within the realm of the plot. Throughout all 3 games I went on wondering, "I know the Reapers are out there, but there's a bigger picture in the whole organic-synthetic conflict" and then bam! *Enter The Intelligence*. That's five star storytelling.

Then, when I thought the reveal couldn't get any better, I'm offered the option of synthesis. Here I thought this was going to be a plain jane ending. Boss fight with the primary antagonist Harbinger and then destroy the Reapers. I could play any best selling video game or read a good work of fiction to get that. Bioware took it a step further. They went where no other one has the guts to go and they removed Harbinger completely from the game, replacing him with a character who has 10 times the charisma.

The player is rightfully penalized if they choose to bull headedly destroy the Reapers as that was never the purpose of Mass Effect. The purpose was to reach the final stage of evolution through pure methods. That's what makes synthesis and the Intelligence so great.

PLF

[Ithurael]

LEAVE THE CATALYST ALONE!!!!

[David7204]

I'm always interested to see that people seem to hate the Catalyst and yet seem to be desperately dependent on everything he says.

[BD Manchild]

I just prefer to call him "Smeghead".

Modifié par BD Manchild, 30 janvier 2013 - 08:35 .