212 réponses à ce sujet

[Funkdrspot]

The ending was self explanatory. Use a little critica thinking andsome occams razor.

[Dhoozy77]

How can they explain something they have no clue about that ending was not organic but instead manufactured to be as ambiguous as possible and they just happen to tackly steal the ending from deus ex to do so.

These are workers not artists they did not know how to end it and so they left it up to you. Laziness on their part but then not every one can be a drew.

[Steelcan]

I'd love to talk with the people who made the endings. I want to hear what they thought about it. But they have nothing to explain, it's up to us.

[Clayless]

Why? You saw how everyone reacted when they explained why they didn't want to transform TIM into a Reaper monster (we're still hearing complaints about that 11 months later), could you imagine how everyone would react if they tried to explain anything else in the game?

[clarkusdarkus]

^^^ @Faunt...it's been a year, I highly doubt moving on will solve anything, The ending will always take precedant now as regards to the trilogy.

Modifié par clarkusdarkus, 30 janvier 2013 - 11:40 .

[EnvyTB075]

Faust1979 wrote...

you feel emotionally numb over the way something? your life must be pretty boring if this is truly a low point for you there are better things to worry about than an ending to something

"over the way something".....? At least i had an education.

Fun fact: Caring about a fictional story is not synonymous with having no life.

DeinonSlayer wrote...

You're meant to draw your own conclusions. No more, no less.

That
was the whole point of Spec Ops, Yager offered up an interpretation and
explained what the writers were aiming for for greater understanding
anyway.

[GreyLycanTrope]

Here's how the ending breaks down OP:
They thought they made something deep and memorable that would connect with us. Unfortunately it's not deep and it's memorable mainly for how controversial and poorly handled it was.

At some point before release they realized it was going to be controversial and not in the way they hoped but they hadn't exactly realized to what extent, so they stayed silent for a while down play how much they goofed, because admitting you made a mistake isn't good business. Didn't die down though so they put together the EC to try and salvage ME's reputation by adding a few retcons and emotions. This worked for those who only wanted more closure but didn't address the narrative issues.

They made a mistake and weren't able to fix it all the way, nor officially admit it past making it sound like the fault was with the audience to begin with because anything else would be admission, and as I've mentioned before that's not good business. There's not much else to explain.

[kal_reegar]

 I used to hate the ending. Very confusd, a lot of possibile interpretations (even IT, catalyst=God or something like that), all incompatible with each other, no reference points, just speculation.
But with EC they made quite a miracle. It's all quite clear and sound if you analyze the ending carefully.
I still don't like it, but I understand it. It makes sense.

I recommend you social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/13006636/1

[Dunabar]

Robosexual wrote...

Why? You saw how everyone reacted when they explained why they didn't want to transform TIM into a Reaper monster (we're still hearing complaints about that 11 months later), could you imagine how everyone would react if they tried to explain anything else in the game?

Exactly why I brought up the "Golden answer"

So what if this "golden answer" isn't what people want to hear? Will they accept it and move on or will they still be here angry about the ending?

Once again, I feel they will still be here angry.

[Ghaleon]

They won't OP but you are in luck i can.

It all started when Casey Hudson was playing Deus Ex, he thought to himself this game is great, wow the ending so amazing.

Then he decided to listen to Starchild by Wintersun, all while he ate a Reese's cup, he then had the revelation, chocolate and peanut butter together are awesome.

So what if i combine Deus Ex ending with Starchild by Wintersun for Mass Effect 3?! everyone will love it it willl be great!

Sadly it was not a good combination.

Modifié par Ghaleon80, 30 janvier 2013 - 11:53 .

[Ninja Stan]

If this thread turns into yet another ending discussion, it will be locked. There are already plenty of threads discussing the endings in general.

[RukiaKuchki]

Official DJ Harbinger wrote...

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

Just move on already.

How about no? We're entitled to an answer to a series we've devoted 5 years to you know...

Hehehehe...yup, 'course you are...

[Dunabar]

Ninja Stan wrote...

If this thread turns into yet another ending discussion, it will be locked. There are already plenty of threads discussing the endings in general.

I believe it will, I hope you got your keys ready.

[Ticonderoga117]

Because to explain the end, they need to explain the overall plot of ME3, which is basically disconnected from ME1 and ME2 and would reveal how badly they botched the whole continuity thing and ditched several major choices over the side because they simply didn't fit with the illogical plot line they already had.

[Tomwew]

Greylycantrope wrote...

Here's how the ending breaks down OP:
They thought they made something deep and memorable that would connect with us. Unfortunately it's not deep and it's memorable mainly for how controversial and poorly handled it was.

At some point before release they realized it was going to be controversial and not in the way they hoped but they hadn't exactly realized to what extent, so they stayed silent for a while down play how much they goofed, because admitting you made a mistake isn't good business. Didn't die down though so they put together the EC to try and salvage ME's reputation by adding a few retcons and emotions. This worked for those who only wanted more closure but didn't address the narrative issues.

They made a mistake and weren't able to fix it all the way, nor officially admit it past making it sound like the fault was with the audience to begin with because anything else would be admission, and as I've mentioned before that's not good business. There's not much else to explain.

i......intelligence? i missed you.

[GreyLycanTrope]

Ninja Stan wrote...

If this thread turns into yet another ending discussion, it will be locked. There are already plenty of threads discussing the endings in general.

A thread asking for the endings to be explained, shouldn't turn into a discussion about the endings.



How do we stay on topic? Should we talk about cake instead?

[Ticonderoga117]

Greylycantrope wrote...
A thread asking for the endings to be explained, shouldn't turn into a discussion about the endings.



How do we stay on topic? Should we talk about cake instead?

I like cake.

[Fifmut]

But if they explained it, there would be no speculation  

[spirosz]

Greylycantrope wrote...

Here's how the ending breaks down OP:
They thought they made something deep and memorable that would connect with us. Unfortunately it's not deep and it's memorable mainly for how controversial and poorly handled it was.

At some point before release they realized it was going to be controversial and not in the way they hoped but they hadn't exactly realized to what extent, so they stayed silent for a while down play how much they goofed, because admitting you made a mistake isn't good business. Didn't die down though so they put together the EC to try and salvage ME's reputation by adding a few retcons and emotions. This worked for those who only wanted more closure but didn't address the narrative issues.

They made a mistake and weren't able to fix it all the way, nor officially admit it past making it sound like the fault was with the audience to begin with because anything else would be admission, and as I've mentioned before that's not good business. There's not much else to explain.

[Daniel_N7]

One does not simply... explain.

[AlanC9]

Why does it matter what Bio tells us about the ending?

[Peranor]

Ticonderoga117 wrote...

Greylycantrope wrote...
A thread asking for the endings to be explained, shouldn't turn into a discussion about the endings.



How do we stay on topic? Should we talk about cake instead?

I like cake.

it's a lie

[spirosz]

AlanC9 wrote...

Why does it matter what Bio tells us about the ending?

I like my hand to be held.  

[Tomwew]

Greylycantrope wrote...

Ninja Stan wrote...

If this thread turns into yet another ending discussion, it will be locked. There are already plenty of threads discussing the endings in general.

A thread asking for the endings to be explained, shouldn't turn into a discussion about the endings.



How do we stay on topic? Should we talk about cake instead?

it's official you're my new favourite poster on bsn, move over shotgun_julia

[RukiaKuchki]

I don't think anyone from Bioware came out to talk about the endings straight away because they wanted as many people as possible to experience them for themselves, and to make their own minds up about what they meant, how they felt about them etc. Not everyone gorges on a game and finishes it within 48 hours of getting it, some people savour it over weeks or months, so they should be allowed a spoiler-free playthrough too. Okay, so all these ending shenanigans were a long time ago now, and as much as I would love to have a discussion with the writers or even read an essay about their influences on, and intentions with, the endings, I'm pretty certain it won't happen. The main reason being there aren't many open forums where anyone connected to the game can post now without facing a barrage of abuse, petty insinuation and demands for this, that and the other. The signal to noise ratio is very very low. I think the time has passed now for any meaningful discussion, and I suspect a lot of those involved in ME3 have now moved on/are preparing to move on to their next projects. Moving on...perhaps it's time?