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[abch4]

Oi Christopher Nolan, does it stop spinning? I paid money to see your film, I demand an answer, wtf is speculation. <insert crying here>

[Davik Kang]

iakus wrote...

classic tale of wishes coming true in the most horrific manner possible 

Hah yeah don't worry I got it... back OT, they have had ample opportunities to explain stuff but have always specifically avoided it...

Could be either because

A - they value the ending discussion because it keeps the game relevant and interesting even now... sure, many fans have forgotten, but everyone here is still talking, no matter how many times they say they're leaving or they don't care etc. etc.; or

B - they are actually at odds internally about the game's interpertations, and want to avoid commenting on it in case it brings their own disagreements out into the public domain...

SPECULATIONS

[abch4]

Official DJ Harbinger wrote...

EpicBoot2daFace wrote...

Just move on already.

How about no? We're entitled to an answer to a series we've devoted 5 years to you know...

Lol. Oh.....dear

[Meltemph]

hallidio wrote...

Oi Christopher Nolan, does it stop spinning? I paid money to see your film, I demand an answer, wtf is speculation. <insert crying here>

Wait, are you actually comparing the quality of Inception, in terms of the writing quality, to that of Mass Effect? 

[abch4]

Meltemph wrote...

hallidio wrote...

Oi Christopher Nolan, does it stop spinning? I paid money to see your film, I demand an answer, wtf is speculation. <insert crying here>

Wait, are you actually comparing the quality of Inception, in terms of the writing quality, to that of Mass Effect? 

No, the principle of a creator of entertainment having to explain themselves to entitled toads. My point is quite clear to anyone with a braincell

[Ticonderoga117]

Meltemph wrote...

hallidio wrote...

Oi Christopher Nolan, does it stop spinning? I paid money to see your film, I demand an answer, wtf is speculation. <insert crying here>

Wait, are you actually comparing the quality of Inception, in terms of the writing quality, to that of Mass Effect? 

Especially since that's a valid concern on a movie that's based on "What is reality?"

Mass Effect has no shield like that to hide behind.

[abch4]

See previous response ^^

[Meltemph]

hallidio wrote...

Meltemph wrote...

hallidio wrote...

Oi Christopher Nolan, does it stop spinning? I paid money to see your film, I demand an answer, wtf is speculation. <insert crying here>

Wait, are you actually comparing the quality of Inception, in terms of the writing quality, to that of Mass Effect? 

No, the principle of a creator of entertainment having to explain themselves to entitled toads. My point is quite clear to anyone with a braincell

So because there are people who feel entitled to explinations or directions with the game, it means that doing so is bad?  Also, your point was far from clear, and seemed to try and compare inception to mass effect, in terms of the intended result of the endings.  

You may want to read some of his interviews months after the movie.  He was more then willing to talk about his direction or decisions, while still mainting the point of the ending.

Modifié par Meltemph, 31 janvier 2013 - 02:34 .

[TheRealJayDee]

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[Ticonderoga117]

hallidio wrote...

See previous response ^^

EDIT: But Nolan didn't make a movie that was inconsistent.

Modifié par Ticonderoga117, 31 janvier 2013 - 02:39 .

[CronoDragoon]

Davik Kang wrote...
Could be either because

A - they value the ending discussion because it keeps the game relevant and interesting even now... sure, many fans have forgotten, but everyone here is still talking, no matter how many times they say they're leaving or they don't care etc. etc.; or

B - they are actually at odds internally about the game's interpertations, and want to avoid commenting on it in case it brings their own disagreements out into the public domain...

SPECULATIONS

A for sure, B when said in another way: Anything one employee says as a personal opinion is automatically elevated to "the official opinion of BioWare as a company." Example: the claim that BioWare thinks Synthesis is inevitable. You'd have a tough time proving that is their official stance as a company on the Mass Effect universe.

[Syroel13]

The point is the make your own interpretation of the ending. Not everything is that black and white and that's what bioware was going for.

Besides, what part don't you understand?

[Meltemph]

CronoDragoon wrote...

Davik Kang wrote...
Could be either because

A - they value the ending discussion because it keeps the game relevant and interesting even now... sure, many fans have forgotten, but everyone here is still talking, no matter how many times they say they're leaving or they don't care etc. etc.; or

B - they are actually at odds internally about the game's interpertations, and want to avoid commenting on it in case it brings their own disagreements out into the public domain...

SPECULATIONS

A for sure, B when said in another way: Anything one employee says as a personal opinion is automatically elevated to "the official opinion of BioWare as a company." Example: the claim that BioWare thinks Synthesis is inevitable. You'd have a tough time proving that is their official stance as a company on the Mass Effect universe.

B can only happen if you marginalize the discussion to short bullet points or something weird like that.  A indepth discussion equivalent to a book signing with Ed Greenwood or George R.R. Martin(Or all the video's/interviews with fringe), wouldnt cause the problem you are talking about, outside of perhaps the fringe groups.

Partial information normally leads to confirmation bias(which ironically is essetnially what the interpretations of the endings are).  That said, I think Daviks point of reference is the most accurate way of putting it.

Modifié par Meltemph, 31 janvier 2013 - 02:53 .

[abch4]

Ticonderoga117 wrote...

hallidio wrote...

See previous response ^^

EDIT: But Nolan didn't make a movie that was inconsistent.

You miss the point completely.

But if you want to be persnickety about it, I could very easily reel off a list of Inception inconsistencies and plot holes for you.

[Dubozz]

I just realized one thing, because of the endings Bioware Montreal is so ****ed.

[Meltemph]

Syroel13 wrote...

The point is the make your own interpretation of the ending. Not everything is that black and white and that's what bioware was going for.

Besides, what part don't you understand?

The reasons for their direction of the game?  What their intentions were in terms of where they wanted to bring the setting?  What was their mentality in certain scene's, you know, stuff normally asked with books and tv/movies.

[Jadebaby]

Yes.

[Meltemph]

hallidio wrote...

Ticonderoga117 wrote...

hallidio wrote...

See previous response ^^

EDIT: But Nolan didn't make a movie that was inconsistent.

You miss the point completely.

But if you want to be persnickety about it, I could very easily reel off a list of Inception inconsistencies and plot holes for you.

What is your point?  Nolan has talked about his movie, specifically the ending.

Modifié par Meltemph, 31 janvier 2013 - 02:51 .

[Mcfly616]

Ticonderoga117 wrote...

Meltemph wrote...

hallidio wrote...

Oi Christopher Nolan, does it stop spinning? I paid money to see your film, I demand an answer, wtf is speculation. <insert crying here>

Wait, are you actually comparing the quality of Inception, in terms of the writing quality, to that of Mass Effect? 

Especially since that's a valid concern on a movie that's based on "What is reality?"

Mass Effect has no shield like that to hide behind.

No. Stop twisting what he's getting at....are you trolling or do you just lack common sense?


What he's saying is that people are alright with speculation anywhere else. Such as Inception. But if there's speculation in Mass Effect, people (such as yourselves) say its a bad thing.

[abch4]

Meltemph wrote...

hallidio wrote...

Ticonderoga117 wrote...

hallidio wrote...

See previous response ^^

EDIT: But Nolan didn't make a movie that was inconsistent.

You miss the point completely.

But if you want to be persnickety about it, I could very easily reel off a list of Inception inconsistencies and plot holes for you.

What is your point?  Nolan has talked about his movie, specifically the ending.

You seem too inerudite to grasp it, so I won't explain it.

And no, he explained what he intended the audience to feel or experience with the ending... Speculation. Much like what Bioware have said

[MegaSovereign]

OP's Stage of grief: Bargaining.

You don't actually want "clarification." You want a new ending. It's now starting to sink in that it won't happen, so now you're trying to bargain with Bioware.

[abch4]

Mcfly616 wrote...

Ticonderoga117 wrote...

Meltemph wrote...

hallidio wrote...

Oi Christopher Nolan, does it stop spinning? I paid money to see your film, I demand an answer, wtf is speculation. <insert crying here>

Wait, are you actually comparing the quality of Inception, in terms of the writing quality, to that of Mass Effect? 

Especially since that's a valid concern on a movie that's based on "What is reality?"

Mass Effect has no shield like that to hide behind.

No. Stop twisting what he's getting at....are you trolling or do you just lack common sense?


What he's saying is that people are alright with speculation anywhere else. Such as Inception. But if there's speculation in Mass Effect, people (such as yourselves) say its a bad thing.

Thank you. I was beginning to lose hope in the worlds common sense

[GreyLycanTrope]

hallidio wrote...
You seem too inerudite to grasp it, so I won't explain it.

<_<

[Meltemph]

Mcfly616 wrote...

Ticonderoga117 wrote...

Meltemph wrote...

hallidio wrote...

Oi Christopher Nolan, does it stop spinning? I paid money to see your film, I demand an answer, wtf is speculation. <insert crying here>

Wait, are you actually comparing the quality of Inception, in terms of the writing quality, to that of Mass Effect? 

Especially since that's a valid concern on a movie that's based on "What is reality?"

Mass Effect has no shield like that to hide behind.

No. Stop twisting what he's getting at....are you trolling or do you just lack common sense?


What he's saying is that people are alright with speculation anywhere else. Such as Inception. But if there's speculation in Mass Effect, people (such as yourselves) say its a bad thing.

Huh?  You wana show where people said it was the speculation, specifically, that was bad?  Either way it doestn matter, this is a non sequitor.  It isnt an abnormal request or idea, with a visual medium, for directors to talk about their direction of a project and the reasons behind it.

You seem to be infering that you were perfectly fine with the ending, as the reason why asking them to talk about their game is a bad thing.  Just becuase I can make a statement doesnt make it a reality, nor does singling out one group or discourse make sense to denegrate the idea of BW talking about the game's direction.

Modifié par Meltemph, 31 janvier 2013 - 03:12 .