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#126
AwesomeBabyLion

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I would never remove any weapons. The more weapons, the more choices. If they are overpowered I or I underpowered, I couldn't care less. It's PvE!!! If you want to use an easy weapon, use it. If you want to use a hard weapon, use it. I'm glad my friend who is new has a weapon he can use that gives him crutches until he gets more experienced while I run around with the Predator or whatever random weapon I chose for my random character.

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Eclispe

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Not dont remove any weapons thats destroying the game i paid 40 quid for this i think i want to keep what they put in..

#128
Stabby McGoodstab

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Harrier
Talon
Black Widow

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#129
THEEAV3NG3R

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Cerberus Harrier, Acolyte, Reegar Carbine...

..."I enjoy the sight of BSN on its knees"...

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Hausner85

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Reegar Carbine...

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none

#132
SOMETHING_FOR_NOTHING

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whatever weps vandurrrrrs and adurrrrpts uses to give them optimal spam screen shaking thing is

i despise these classes with a passion

#133
doozerdude

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Acolyte, and all fully auto-snipers.

#134
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Claymore. OSKs most mooks, totally OP. Remove pls biower.

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doozerdude

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Air Quotes wrote...

2. Reegar. Ultimate noob weapon. Requires no aim or skill whatsoever. Just point and watch thing melt
 


Although I agree Reegar is noob weapon, I don't think it is flawed via design, simply has OP damage vs health/armor.

For pure shield stripping it is balanced: slows you down, CQC, weighs a reasonable amount.

^Compare that to the Acolyte: weighs nothing, can be charged while sprinting, bounces around corner, under gaurdians, etc, ridiculous range. Acolyte has no downside whatsoever, and is the ultimate noobtube of ME3.

If Reegar didnt do much dmg to health/armor then it would be perfect.

Acolyte would require tons more nerfing than the Reegar to become balanced.

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doozerdude

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painforest wrote...

Claymore. OSKs most mooks, totally OP. Remove pls biower.


Also fires one shot, weighs more than a Mako.

Sure it does tons of damage, but so do other guns. Claymore also doesnt do ridiculous damage vs shields/barriers, Phantoms laugh at Claymore.

Lets compare it to the Javelin.

Attribute       Advantage
Weight:          Both
Range:          Javelin
Piercing:       Javelin
Damage:      Both
Reload/DPS:         Both
Aiming:          Claymore
Multipliers:     Both


The only advantage the Claymore has over it's sniper counterpart is the fact that this game was designed for CQC hit n run. If you can aim well, Javelin easily outperforms Claymore.


Lets compare another shotgun, Reegar.

Attribute        Advantage
Weight:          Reegar
Range:          Claymore
Piercing:        Both
Damage:       Both
Reload/DPS:       Both
Aiming:          Reegar
Multipliers:    Reegar 


Could go on, there are many guns more powerful than Claymore, this shottie is simply the one that benefits from reload canceling the most, and people who can't do this are jelly.

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IF and only if i had to remove 3 weapons, i'd choose the Kishock, Graal and GPS. Simply because they're unplayable off-host. They don't work as intended and that's why i'd remove them. I would've added the Striker, but let's just assume the missile glitch fix works.

And it was so predictable that 9/10 of all BSNers would use this thread to unload their BS views about how this or that is OP, doesn't take any skill or shouldn't be used by a good gamer. I'm so glad you don't work for Bioware. But what did i expect? You can't spell BSN without BS.

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ISHYGDDT

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longgamma wrote...

ISHYGDDT wrote...

longgamma wrote...

Claymore lovers: Reegar can kill a platinum boss in 8 seconds.

Well a claymore GI can kill mooks worth more wave points in 8 seconds.

Love the hypocrisy here :)


And a Reegar anything can kill more mooks in 8 seconds than a Claymore GI.  Interesting bit of logical gymnastics you did there.



Yep and empty the entire mag,  get dangerously close to enemies. 
I really don't get the Reegar hate here. If it makes people more competitive then I am all for it.  It is a co-op game not friggin call of duty where all this is more relevant. We are just killing bots the faster the better. 


Claymore does this with every shot.
 
Personally, I don't really want any weapons to be removed, but this whole 'pretend the Claymore is some sort of OP noobtube' thing is such BS, and I want it to stop.

The highest DPS you get out of a Claymore is 833 with perfect reload cancelling.

The Reegar/Harrier/Hurricane/Raider/Piranha/PPR are all substantially higher as well as being lighter by at least 60%.  The Wraith has 2-shots and similar ability to oneshot mooks with minimal equipment and does essentially comparable DPS (773) and is lighter. 

If you actually believe the Claymore is OP, I feel bad for you because you're deluded.

Modifié par ISHYGDDT, 31 janvier 2013 - 07:52 .


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Hyperglide

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Reegar - just don't like it... Boring weapon and to easy to kill with it's like a pocket flame thrower
Striker - very annoying weapon, with all the flak it creates, it's just a loud obnoxious weapon.
Krysae - it's the antithesis of a Sniper Rifle. It's more like a heavy ordinance Grenade Launcher. Also it's not very fun to use and was designed poorly.

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Air Quotes wrote...

I would remove the following:

1. Krysae. It was a horrible design to begin with and now it's dead 
2. Reegar. Ultimate noob weapon. Requires no aim or skill whatsoever. Just point and watch thing melt
3. Acolyte. Makes hard enemies like Phantoms ultra easy, useful on anything, weightless. 


I hate the acolyte, but because of its mechanics more than its effectiveness.

I share your sentiments on the krysae and reegar, but flamer is basically a super reegar if you think about it. More range and aoe, more easy explosions, no ammo limitations, more blinding your team!

The only one I would really remove (if any) is the krysae, as the acolyte is a niche weapon, and the reegar/flamer are tolerable. The original design of the krysae really was terrible from a gameplay perspective, though.

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ISHYGDDT wrote...


If you actually believe the Claymore is OP, I feel bad for you because you're deluded.


Listen to ISHY's trufax

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Kel Riever

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Arc pistol: Incredibly pointless
Eagle: Incredibly pointless
Crusader: A long range shotgun.....incredibly pointless

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doozerdude wrote...

painforest wrote...

Claymore. OSKs most mooks, totally OP. Remove pls biower.


Also fires one shot, weighs more than a Mako.

Sure it does tons of damage, but so do other guns. Claymore also doesnt do ridiculous damage vs shields/barriers, Phantoms laugh at Claymore.

Lets compare it to the Javelin.

Attribute       Advantage
Weight:          Both
Range:          Javelin
Piercing:       Javelin
Damage:      Both
Reload/DPS:         Both
Aiming:          Claymore
Multipliers:     Both


The only advantage the Claymore has over it's sniper counterpart is the fact that this game was designed for CQC hit n run. If you can aim well, Javelin easily outperforms Claymore.


Lets compare another shotgun, Reegar.

Attribute        Advantage
Weight:          Reegar
Range:          Claymore
Piercing:        Both
Damage:       Both
Reload/DPS:       Both
Aiming:          Reegar
Multipliers:    Reegar 


Could go on, there are many guns more powerful than Claymore, this shottie is simply the one that benefits from reload canceling the most, and people who can't do this are jelly.


You guys just can't help but fall for the most obvious troll posts. Makes it worth my time. Thanks! :wizard:

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Beta Commando

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Kischock Harppoon Gun
Graal Spike Thrower - I just suck with the first two even though they are said to be beasts.
Incisor - What an terrible gun we have here. Does nothing well and sucks in every area.

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KEEP ALL WEAPONS

#146
Hyperglide

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Kel Riever wrote...

Arc pistol: Incredibly pointless
Eagle: Incredibly pointless
Crusader: A long range shotgun.....incredibly pointless


lol....  I thought the same thing not even a week ago.  Give it another go man.

http://social.biowar.../index/15695055

Modifié par Hyperglide, 31 janvier 2013 - 08:22 .


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jcamdenlane

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Claymore - don't dislike it, just tired of hearing about it.
Harrier - same reason
Kishock - because space harpoon.

#148
vonSlash

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I'd only remove things if I could replace them with things I'd like better.

If you'll grant me that, then I'd remove:

The Harrier - replace with a beefed-up UR version of the Avenger.
The Reegar - replace with a new rare SMG that behaves like ME2's Tempest.
The Acolyte - replace with a rare, high-powered, fast-firing, inaccurate semi-auto pistol.

#149
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Redesign perhaps, but why remove weapons and harm variety. If a weapon is OP/UP like you claim just balance it. Removing things is just a bad choice altogether.

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So sick of seeing plat lobbies filled with Harrier-wielding TGIs. L2P something else, baddies