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Ugh.. I give up on pugs..Anyone else get these games?


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Leg3nd4t0ld wrote...

They weren't this bad before though, a lot of silver and bronze players greedy for unlocks come to gold to leech off others, WAY overstepping their skill boundries.


I also find that this has been the case since Retaliation. Too many FBW/G/G farmers that didn't want to take a credit cut and step back down to Silver.

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Leg3nd4t0ld wrote...

I just played a game as a level 12 Krogan soldier, the results (mine at the top) =

221 912
  70 643
  69 271
  66 112

Now I am not saying these are bad scores for a gold pug game, but only one of the pugs used a single medigel and a single missle. I had to do all the objectives and I had to solo 2 waves because I could not revive them all the time as it was Hazard Giant, which is a pretty big map, and they had grouped up and were getting stomped on together.

At the end of the game I was going to shrug this off, because to be honest it has become quite normal for me. But why should this be normal? How is it fair that I have to use an extra effort and extra equipment just so we can make extraction? I'm pretty sure I am not the only one who feels this way or who has to endure this.

A lot of this would be helped if there were some sort of minimun restriction for people who join gold games, but I doubt that is possible or likely to happen, maybe for future ME games? Anyway that was my little rant.

P.S. If you doubt the scores I can post a picture.


I don't care about scores too much, moreso their actions.

If they're simply not an exceptional player; I can't be annoyed with them.

If they flat out refuse to use their medi-gel or missiles I'll bloody rage.


Then you would have found that game infuriating.

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IIFlash wrote...

Leg3nd4t0ld wrote...

They weren't this bad before though, a lot of silver and bronze players greedy for unlocks come to gold to leech off others, WAY overstepping their skill boundries.


I also find that this has been the case since Retaliation. Too many FBW/G/G farmers that didn't want to take a credit cut and step back down to Silver.


May very well be the case actuallly..

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Leg3nd4t0ld wrote...

winawer wrote...

The worst thing about pugs for me is trouble I have just completing a mission. I only play silver pugs now, usually to level up a recently promoted character. I simply can't pug on gold any more (N7 rank <100 with an Avenger I and no gear equipped, anyone?), it's usually just a waste of consumables.

But even on silver, the problem is loss of connection/host quitting. I seriously get it about 2/3 of the games I join. Every time I get booted back to the main menu having wasted the past 3-6 waves.


You should trying clearing system cache and restarting your router more often :)


It's not that, and I'm on PS3. I can join the BSN Gold lobby and play as long as I like with no problem at all. The only thing that causes system instability is Collectors on Gold. But that's well documented.

With pugs it's different - just completing all 11 waves without someone lagging out, disconnecting or rage quitting is an achievement in itself.

Modifié par winawer, 01 février 2013 - 05:09 .


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Leg3nd4t0ld wrote...

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JacensGame wrote...

My point being. That if you outgun your teammates to that level. Where they can try their hardest but they can kill as quick as you. Then obviously you are going to outscore them.  


Snipped the rest.
Agree with this. A lot of people seem to think high score = carry, but this is not always the case.
If the scores OP posted were from a 15-20 minute game then it is simply a more aggressive player killing everything before others get a chance to. But say if it's 30+ minutes then it's turning more into a solo time and either their teammates were bleeding out and leaving them to solo waves or they simply were to putting out enough damage to make an impact.


The one from yesterday was 31 minutes. Had a similiar game today
227145
96157
92235
51582

but this one was 21 minutes. I surely didn't do anything different, so maybe it was just the pugs were **** yesterday and good today, their scores aren't much different but scores don't really matter, it comes down to how well they stayed alive, did the objective, mashed A so that I could get to them and wouldn't have to solo 2 or 3 waves adding an extra 10 minutes or so to the game.

I feel that your logic is somewhat flawed.


I fail to see how my logic is flawed, since what you say agrees with my point.

You getting 227k with two teammates under 100k and one at 50k in a 21 minute game is simply a more aggressive player killing everything before others get the chance. If it was relative to DPS the scores would have been closer since they would have gotten more assist points.

You at 220k with 3 teammates at 70k in a 31 minute game means either they bleed out and you had to solo, (which you said was the case in this game), or simply didn't have enough damage output.

Another point to consider is that them staying alive can simply mean that you aren't drawing all the aggro.

Modifié par IIFlash, 01 février 2013 - 05:11 .


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I see this all the time too.

I, like many of you, don't understand the mentality behind it. I mean, unless your really good at the game and for whatever reason want a challenge, why bother going into matches (especially gold+) without the right gear,weapon, armor bonuses?? And then to refuse to use medigels and rockets accordingly to be successful and get those all-important credits??

It happens in almost every pug match too, what is wrong with people?

I don't expect everyone to be amazing at the game, but some general team work, usage of consumables isn't much to ask.

Surely these people have tons of at LEAST level I and II equipment to use, but they just keep stocking them up....

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OldeGrim wrote...

I see this all the time too.

I, like many of you, don't understand the mentality behind it. I mean, unless your really good at the game and for whatever reason want a challenge, why bother going into matches (especially gold+) without the right gear,weapon, armor bonuses?? And then to refuse to use medigels and rockets accordingly to be successful and get those all-important credits??

It happens in almost every pug match too, what is wrong with people?

I don't expect everyone to be amazing at the game, but some general team work, usage of consumables isn't much to ask.

Surely these people have tons of at LEAST level I and II equipment to use, but they just keep stocking them up....


Its all about unlocking weapons/gear. Every credit goes towards a PSP and they hope to get whatever consumables they can. I doubt highly that they REFUSE to use gel, its more like they don't have any at all. I know, for example, playing under another account, it too roughly 600 hours before I maxed out all my consumable options to where everything was 5.

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GriM_AoD wrote...


Really? I regulalry clear 130/150k, Surely it's not uncommon?
I don't usually bother nuking spawns.  One main exception (Wave 7[?] collectors - 3 possesed scions - DIE)



Edit - (The best I can recall is about 280k, but one guy did quit/lose connection late wave9 and I was a Fury in a bad mood and the enemy was Reapers xP)


LOL must be the PUGs i end up with. I usually score 50-80k, yay for me :(:wizard:

Most of my friends are a lot better than I am but they dont take their best classes to play usually. Doesnt matter, im always at bottom of scoreboard, only been at the top in gold twice (once with friends  when i used level 3 consumables and they used none, once with a group of TERRIBLE pugs and I had a TGI). 

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IIFlash wrote...

Leg3nd4t0ld wrote...

IIFlash wrote...

JacensGame wrote...

My point being. That if you outgun your teammates to that level. Where they can try their hardest but they can kill as quick as you. Then obviously you are going to outscore them.  


Snipped the rest.
Agree with this. A lot of people seem to think high score = carry, but this is not always the case.
If the scores OP posted were from a 15-20 minute game then it is simply a more aggressive player killing everything before others get a chance to. But say if it's 30+ minutes then it's turning more into a solo time and either their teammates were bleeding out and leaving them to solo waves or they simply were to putting out enough damage to make an impact.


The one from yesterday was 31 minutes. Had a similiar game today
227145
96157
92235
51582

but this one was 21 minutes. I surely didn't do anything different, so maybe it was just the pugs were **** yesterday and good today, their scores aren't much different but scores don't really matter, it comes down to how well they stayed alive, did the objective, mashed A so that I could get to them and wouldn't have to solo 2 or 3 waves adding an extra 10 minutes or so to the game.

I feel that your logic is somewhat flawed.


I fail to see how my logic is flawed, since what you say agrees with my point.

You getting 227k with two teammates under 100k and one at 50k in a 21 minute game is simply a more aggressive player killing everything before others get the chance. If it was relative to DPS the scores would have been closer since they would have gotten more assist points.

You at 220k with 3 teammates at 70k in a 31 minute game means either they bleed out and you had to solo, (which you said was the case in this game), or simply didn't have enough damage output.

Another point to consider is that them staying alive can simply mean that you aren't drawing all the aggro.


Not drawing agro is key, especially as frail characters.

My apologies though, I must have misread your input.

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GallowsPole wrote...

OldeGrim wrote...

I see this all the time too.

I, like many of you, don't understand the mentality behind it. I mean, unless your really good at the game and for whatever reason want a challenge, why bother going into matches (especially gold+) without the right gear,weapon, armor bonuses?? And then to refuse to use medigels and rockets accordingly to be successful and get those all-important credits??

It happens in almost every pug match too, what is wrong with people?

I don't expect everyone to be amazing at the game, but some general team work, usage of consumables isn't much to ask.

Surely these people have tons of at LEAST level I and II equipment to use, but they just keep stocking them up....


Its all about unlocking weapons/gear. Every credit goes towards a PSP and they hope to get whatever consumables they can. I doubt highly that they REFUSE to use gel, its more like they don't have any at all. I know, for example, playing under another account, it too roughly 600 hours before I maxed out all my consumable options to where everything was 5.


If they can not discipline themselves to buy a jumbo every once in a while when they are playing GOLD +, then I simply do not wish them in my lobby. It is very difficult to always revive pugs, they usually die in very stupid places and I would be foolish to beeline straight for them every time. If they can not buy a couple of jumbos, for example every other game, then they are not gold materiell and are leeching, as you described them yourselves, just there for the credits that they have no means to derive on their own. Ergo they do not belong in gold, which I can tolerate as long as they make an effort on objectives.

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HoochieHamiltoe wrote...

OP, I am on your friend list if you ever want to get in a game.

Yeah, but the OP isn't looking to carry people :whistle:.

OP, you know where to find me if you need someone to play with.

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FlashAK wrote...

HoochieHamiltoe wrote...

OP, I am on your friend list if you ever want to get in a game.

Yeah, but the OP isn't looking to carry people :whistle:.

OP, you know where to find me if you need someone to play with.


As long as I'm hosting, I'm down ;)

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GallowsPole wrote...

Its all about unlocking weapons/gear. Every credit goes towards a PSP and they hope to get whatever consumables they can. I doubt highly that they REFUSE to use gel, its more like they don't have any at all. I know, for example, playing under another account, it too roughly 600 hours before I maxed out all my consumable options to where everything was 5.

That's basically the same. These people have no business in gold, period.

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Schachmatt wrote...

GallowsPole wrote...

Its all about unlocking weapons/gear. Every credit goes towards a PSP and they hope to get whatever consumables they can. I doubt highly that they REFUSE to use gel, its more like they don't have any at all. I know, for example, playing under another account, it too roughly 600 hours before I maxed out all my consumable options to where everything was 5.

That's basically the same. These people have no business in gold, period.


^ What he said

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I can't take anyone seriously when they use emoticons almost after every sentence.

Modifié par himohillo, 01 février 2013 - 07:15 .


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himohillo wrote...

I can't take anyone seriously when they use emoticons almost after every sentence.


Well then I guess you can take this thread very seriously