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[Nonoru]

Chris Priestly wrote...

I think most Zevran fans would agree that he is singularly unique.

   

Elves of the Qun disagree.

[Yumichika]

fgalkin wrote...

Again, when was the last time it snowed in Africa?

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin

It's biological, again elves are not human, having races very close to human is very strange when u have plenty of possibilities.
U have to revisit ur geography please. Or just try: snow + Africa in google
It will be of a great help.

I'm from Mauritania and already used to temperature like 50°C day -5°C at night during the dry season without being sick or feeling unconfortable.
Hope u will learn more with google. I can't be a good teacher to u!

Modifié par Yumichika, 01 février 2013 - 12:55 .

[Harle Cerulean]

fgalkin wrote...

Again, when was the last time it snowed in Africa?

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin

Africa is a large continent, with a lot of various weather types depending on location and season.  Including snow.  Fancy that!    Perhaps you should become informed about Africa some other way than simply watching "The Lion King" before asking such silly questions?

[MisterJB]

PhantomGinger wrote...
I don't see how it makes no sense for an elf to not wear shoes in the city. They are rebelling against their situation, keeping in touch with their love of nature (or lack-there-of in the city.)

I believe this misses the entire point of the City Elves. If you, as a Cousland, speak to Iona about how different humans and elves are, she'll tell you that they worship the same god, obey the same laws, sing the same songs which should make them as fereldan as any human but that there is a rift between the two races. Likewise, the Dalish insist on repeating how the CEs are not "true elves" exactly because these are the ones who decided to adapt rather than rebell.
Humanity did not appear yesterday, Arlathan was destroyed two thousand or so years ago and the elves spent 1700 of those years living in huma cities. City Elves should be no more attached to nature than the average human.
If they walk barefoot because they can't afford shoes, that's different. It makes sense.

Modifié par MisterJB, 01 février 2013 - 01:29 .

[jpbreon]

DominusVita wrote...

And after generations as well as being raised that way from childbirth, their soles are basically as thick as boots anyways.

Point taken. I get the In-Touch-With-Nature part of their heritage, I just had a hard time seeing barefoot elves standing on hard concrete for hours on end with no ill effect.

I can. I live in a place with lots of Amish, who go barefoot 75% of the time. I grew up on a farm and never wore shoes/boots unless it was winter or I was around the animals. I could run on gravel roads barefoot. Your feet will become tough as leather and desensitized. I still go barefeet in the grass and creek, but I wear shoes a lot more now so my feet aren't that way any longer.

[Commander Kurt]

MisterJB wrote...

City Elves should be no more attached to nature than the average human.
If they walk barefoot because they can't afford shoes, that's different. It makes sense.

Yeah, that big tree thingy that grows in every alienage is probably just coincidence.

[Gamer Ftw]

Commander Kurt wrote...

MisterJB wrote...

City Elves should be no more attached to nature than the average human.
If they walk barefoot because they can't afford shoes, that's different. It makes sense.

Yeah, that big tree thingy that grows in every alienage is probably just coincidence.

It's a symbol of thier past, they ****** on it.

Modifié par Gamer Ftw, 01 février 2013 - 03:21 .

[MisterJB]

Commander Kurt wrote...

MisterJB wrote...

City Elves should be no more attached to nature than the average human.
If they walk barefoot because they can't afford shoes, that's different. It makes sense.

Yeah, that big tree thingy that grows in every alienage is probably just coincidence.

Which they ****** on and know not the significance of.
Mantaining it has just become an habit, the Codex says so and, as per the Codex again, some alienages have burn their tree down for firewood.

Modifié par MisterJB, 01 février 2013 - 03:21 .

[mousestalker]

Rings on their fingers
and bells on their toes,
but a bone in their nose,
oh no!

[Realmzmaster]

People have been walking and running barefoot since the dawn of time. There have been Olympic runners like Abebe Bikila (other notably barefoot runners include Zola Budd and Bruce Tulloh) who was a marathoner in the 1960 games. He won the gold medal. He was from Ethiopia. He obviously had tough feet. I have no problem with the elves going barefoot. There are whole tribes in Africa and other countries that do not wear footwear. They step on everything from sharp rocks to animal dung.

As far as the person asking about snow in Africa. Yes it snows in Africa. Just last year snow fell in South Africa (August) during a cold snap. It has always snowed in the higher elevations and yes tribes live there. There are also ski resorts in Morocco.

[Yumichika]

jpbreon wrote...

DominusVita wrote...

And after generations as well as being raised that way from childbirth, their soles are basically as thick as boots anyways.

Point taken. I get the In-Touch-With-Nature part of their heritage, I just had a hard time seeing barefoot elves standing on hard concrete for hours on end with no ill effect.

I can. I live in a place with lots of Amish, who go barefoot 75% of the time. I grew up on a farm and never wore shoes/boots unless it was winter or I was around the animals. I could run on gravel roads barefoot. Your feet will become tough as leather and desensitized. I still go barefeet in the grass and creek, but I wear shoes a lot more now so my feet aren't that way any longer.

Exactly the point, i love also going barefeet here and there the more hard weather the more desensitized (talking to human). I will say i would love to see elves more close to nature in different ways too and resume of the difference between the races. What will make this one stronger or weaker to this or that.

[Fast Jimmy]

If they want the Dalish to be barefoot and then want to save resources on body designs by having all elves by shoeless, let them knock themselves out.

Just work on their faces, for the love of Pete. By trying to make them look "distinctive" it wound up making them all look the exact same to me, and none of which were appealing. Also, I understand they are supposed to be thinner than humans, but make it so their bones are thinner, not just turn them into anorexic humans. Ugh. I still shudder whenever I see the Merrill romance scene.

[Gamer Ftw]

 but feet are gross don't want to see them...

[slimgrin]

I'm fine with them being barefoot as long as they're in the kitchen cooking my dinner.

[jpbreon]

MisterJB wrote...

Commander Kurt wrote...

MisterJB wrote...

City Elves should be no more attached to nature than the average human.
If they walk barefoot because they can't afford shoes, that's different. It makes sense.

Yeah, that big tree thingy that grows in every alienage is probably just coincidence.

Which they ****** on and know not the significance of.
Mantaining it has just become an habit, the Codex says so and, as per the Codex again, some alienages have burn their tree down for firewood.

So it makes sense the Vhenadahl is an old custom that lost its significance, but when it comes to not wearing shoes there's just no way the same thing happened.

[BouncyFrag]

If this practice continues, any dwarven companions should speak up and voice their protest. They are closer to the ground, so to speak.

[MisterJB]

jpbreon wrote...
So it makes sense the Vhenadahl is an old custom that lost its significance, but when it comes to not wearing shoes there's just no way the same thing happened.

It's less likely because there are many sharp things one could step on when you live in the poorest quarter of the city.

[lokisjoke13]

all I'm saying is that the "ancient elven armor" had boots... ... that is all lol

[BouncyFrag]

lokisjoke13 wrote...

all I'm saying is that the "ancient elven armor" had boots... ... that is all lol

good point! I loved that armor set.

[EpicBoot2daFace]

LPPrince wrote...

BouncyFrag wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

BouncyFrag wrote...

Hmmm...never noticed this, but it will now bug me to no end now. Just another reason to leave them back at their homes when off adventuring (i'd still leave them anyways).

If you think that's bad, God forbid you look at Merrill's hands.

*shudders*

Pretty much this but with red nail polish which makes it worse.



So while we're on the boots/shoes topic, lets add to it-

GLOVES.

Bioware needs to hire someone who knows how to render more than just faces.

[LPPrince]

Yikes.

[HurricaneGinger]

MisterJB wrote...

PhantomGinger wrote...
I don't see how it makes no sense for an elf to not wear shoes in the city. They are rebelling against their situation, keeping in touch with their love of nature (or lack-there-of in the city.)

I believe this misses the entire point of the City Elves. If you, as a Cousland, speak to Iona about how different humans and elves are, she'll tell you that they worship the same god, obey the same laws, sing the same songs which should make them as fereldan as any human but that there is a rift between the two races. Likewise, the Dalish insist on repeating how the CEs are not "true elves" exactly because these are the ones who decided to adapt rather than rebell.
Humanity did not appear yesterday, Arlathan was destroyed two thousand or so years ago and the elves spent 1700 of those years living in huma cities. City Elves should be no more attached to nature than the average human.
If they walk barefoot because they can't afford shoes, that's different. It makes sense.

But they can afford clothes...? 

And just because they live in the City it doesn't mean they don't admire their heratige. And like I said, which you may have missed: I'm sure some elves wear shoes, and some don't. It depends on the elf, like it depends on the person.

[Hurbster]

I for one would NOT like to wander barefoot in ANY pseudo-medieval city. Just no.

[Gamer Ftw]

Hurbster wrote...

I for one would NOT like to wander barefoot in ANY pseudo-medieval city. Just no.

Especially one that has Mabari's, lol.