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[Eterna]

Lol! Its almost been a year guys, it's time to get the **** over it.

[hiraeth]

iakus wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

iakus wrote...

Good luck on your Mass Effect run. Last time I tried with EC I got halfway through and lost all desire to play.

My anger didn't cause it. The endings did. And that made me angry. That's the cause and effect.

While I admit some of my posts get passionate, I try to avoid being directly insulting to developers. I find the endings terrible. And I find it worse that they actually thought they were a good idea (twice). If that hurts some feelings, then, to quote the Catalyst "So be it!"

Iakus...my brother from another mother (metaphorically speaking I would hope or else my father has some explaining to do) you juat need a different perspective, trust me...

I do have another perspective:  MEHEM.  That restores the game for me.  Problem is that's a fan mod.  Bioware didn't think of it. Or if they did they never implemented it.  This shakes my faith in Bioware in general

iakus, your perspective is valid, warranted, and understandable. no need to change it (from where i stand, anyway)!

[Reorte]

I may forget, I won't forgive. I'm less angry and annoyed than I was a year ago (it would be worrying if I wasn't) but nothing has happened to change my initial impressions and opinions; time has only reduced how I feel about them.

[Reorte]

iakus wrote...

I do have another perspective:  MEHEM.  That restores the game for me.  Problem is that's a fan mod.  Bioware didn't think of it. Or if they did they never implemented it.  This shakes my faith in Bioware in general

The problem with MEHEM is that you can tell that it is a fan mod (apologies for that sounding like a criticism of its creator - that isn't intended, I think he's done a very good job). Also having it installed feels like wishful thinking, in denial about was actually there in the game.

[kyban]

Ithurael wrote...

Stage 5: Acceptance

Congrats on reaching the final phase of grief. I hit mine mid November.

I agree with you though OP, we need to find ways to bring back the positive. The devs need to be able to come to these forums for positive and constructive feedback, and not avoid it like the plague.

[AlanC9]

WindfishDude wrote...
I'm not even mad about the endings anymore. I'm more pissed off at the way EA and Bioware handled the entire ME3 experience, going for the easiest and most safe route. 

The ending was "easiest and most safe?" Or is that an exception to your argument?

[Almostfaceman]

Arcian wrote...

BioWare whining about people criticizing their game is like the staff of a restaurant whining about people criticizing their food. Only in the case of the restaurant, the disappointed consumers are justified while in the case of BioWare, the disappointed consumers are being toxic and entitled.

Can you see how absurd this is?

Yes. Yes I can.

[Auld Wulf]

Dendio1 wrote...

People literally logged on forums to make bioware feel bad about themselves. Now devs consider forums toxic.

Damage is done.

People were unobservant and projected their own lack of imagination and intellect at BioWare. To make BioWare feel bad about something that wasn't even their fault.

You know, this gives me such faith in my own species.

[XxBrokenBonezxX]

WindfishDude wrote...

It's been a year and I'm not only still mad, but my entire view on games have changed drastically.

They want to reel in the big crowd with flash and bang and the rest of us who were actually invested in the franchise just gets ignored or called whiny brats.

Again, not even talking about the ending. The intro, to me, is just as bad and the core story is just a mess.

A year later and the disappointment in ME3 is still very fresh. Ya sold out Bioware. It's a sad thing to see.

The entire game is somewhat of a mess. The intro is terrible, in part because it introduces bratboy, but also because it consists of terrible writing and forced drama.

If you've ever read any of my posts, you probably think I hate ME3. That isn't the case. The majority of the game is fantastic, yet it's the ending and intro that are so horrible it's hard to look past them. I still hate the ending, and am still mad about it almost a year later. Yet it isn't because I hate ME, it's because I love the series as a whole and when it makes huge missteps that should never be made it's disheartening.

The Crucible, which is also dumb and forced, could've been handled well, yet they went about it the worst possible way. Star-Jar would have been much more accepted had he been, I don't know, the stupid little kid that has for some reason haunted Shepard even though most of us don't give a **** about him. He could have taken the form of pretty much anything else, and it wouldn't have been near as insulting.

And I won't even mention how insulting of a villan Kai Lame was.<_<

[Ticonderoga117]

Auld Wulf wrote...
People were unobservant and projected their own lack of imagination and intellect at BioWare. To make BioWare feel bad about something that wasn't even their fault.

You know, this gives me such faith in my own species.

So.. it's not thier fault they wrote a crap story?

[Iakus]

Auld Wulf wrote...

Dendio1 wrote...

People literally logged on forums to make bioware feel bad about themselves. Now devs consider forums toxic.

Damage is done.

People were unobservant and projected their own lack of imagination and intellect at BioWare. To make BioWare feel bad about something that wasn't even their fault.

You know, this gives me such faith in my own species.

And they did this just with ME3?  Not the previous Mass Efefct games?

How about Dragon Age Origins?

KOTOR?  Did that cause such an uproar?  No?

Try being less "toxic"

[Seival]

StElmo wrote...

I made an apology thread to BW about how obsessively I posted mean spirited sounding things on BSN and the internet at large, because I got swept up in an ending controversy that was ultimately pointless given how I initially liked the endings of the games - yet for somesilly reason I started concentrating on little details and started turning into a stupid example of an internet denizen where negativity reigned supreme.

So right now I'm installing Mass Effect 3, EC going to buy Leviathan, Omega and going to tear through it, ready for the final DLC 

I'm going to forget about stupid Mass Effect 3 complaints that only made me add to a feedback loop. And I'm going to enjoy and escape this world

Why sit in a hovel of negativity when we can accept and let this universe continue

You can google my old posts if you wish, I started deleting some of them, but you can see how negative I was, I regret that. Because guess what? it just stopped me having fun.

There are inspirational people out there, like Gandhi and what was I doing? complaining about something because I let perception impressionabilty get to me. I liked ME3 when I first played it and I will like it again.

EA is an entertainment company, they aren't screwing our coral reefs, heck they aren't even importing minerals from the congo to make the damn machines we play these games on! They aren't sending drones into pakistan that kill children and create terrorist sympathisers, they aren't taking away our liberty.

EDIT: I would like to clarify I never made personal attacks or anything as far as I'm aware, always been against that. But I am dissapointed the tone of my posts brought me down to negative space and that sucks.

Nice to hear

[archangel1996]

Good for you, i guess

[ruggly]

Auld Wulf wrote...

People were unobservant and projected their own lack of imagination and intellect at BioWare. To make BioWare feel bad about something that wasn't even their fault.

You know, this gives me such faith in my own species.

Saying things like this only sparks those conversations you seem to love oh so much.  People have explained reasonably why they don't like the endings, yet you still clump them all together and call them haters.  You're not helping anything.

Anyways, calming down now.  I've gotten over the endings long ago.  A year is way too long for me hate something.  The EC made the endings meh, but I and life continue on.  'Tis otherwise a fantastic game.

[Fixers0]

Doesn't make the critisism any less valid though,

[element eater]

well im glad ur happy i hope u have a great time

im not going to convince myself i like something which i dont though.

[AlexMBrennan]

Another thread mentioning "drones"? Did I miss something?

There are inspirational people out there, like Gandhi and what was I doing? complaining about something because I let perception impressionabilty get to me. I liked ME3 when I first played it and I will like it again.

EA is an entertainment company, they aren't screwing our coral reefs, heck they aren't even importing minerals from the congo to make the damn machines we play these games on! They aren't sending drones into pakistan that kill children and create terrorist sympathisers, they aren't taking away our liberty.

EDIT: I would like to clarify I never made personal attacks or anything as far as I'm aware, always been against that. But I am dissapointed the tone of my posts brought me down to negative space and that sucks.

Other companies doing bad stuff does not absolve Bioware from blame for lying to fans about features of their product to get more sales.

Why should a game be treated differently from any other good of equal value? If you bought a pair of trainers that didn't fit because the salesman had lied about size you'd be angry too.
Then, a year later, you'd realise the error of your ways, apologise, start wearing he ill fitting shoes and buy lots of expensive accessories. Right?

[Veganterror]

Mouton_Alpha wrote...

Ithurael wrote...

Stage 5: Acceptance

My post of the day.

+1

[JBPBRC]

Fixers0 wrote...

Doesn't make the critisism any less valid though,

This. Criticism and haters hating are two very different things. Though I can see why some would mix the two up.

[Yate]

HEY GUYS I'M GONNA TAKE THE HIGH GROUND NOW EVEN THOUGH MY ATTITUDE HELPED TURN THE FORUM INTO A TOXIC DUMP

NOW YOU SHOULD ALL ADMIRE ME FOR GETTING OVER SOMETHING UNIMPORTANT THAT HAPPENED A LONG TIME AGO

[Yate]

Eterna5 wrote...

Lol! Its almost been a year guys, it's time to get the **** over it.

thank you

glad to see there are still sensible people around here

[ruggly]

JBPBRC wrote...

Fixers0 wrote...

Doesn't make the critisism any less valid though,

This. Criticism and haters hating are two very different things. Though I can see why some would mix the two up.

Oh, I know. But it gets to be a little out of hand once in a while..Though it does seem to be really cooling down now.

Modifié par ruggly, 31 janvier 2013 - 09:34 .

[Mathias]

Again, just like your thread in the General Discussion section, are you trying to invalidate other people's opinions when they had a lot of complaints about the game?

I don't have a problem with you changing your mind and loving the game again. But it's the way you're going about it that aggravates me. You're sitting there acting as if you're enlightened, and that it's wrong to criticize Bioware for the direction they took the series, and the direction they're taking their company as a whole. You're telling me to turn over a new leaf and start loving Bioware and Mass Effect 3, like it's the right thing to do.

If you criticized the ending because you got caught up in this "hate train", then that's on you and your inability to have an opinion of your own. But please don't go around acting like people who have serious problems with the game, are hating it just for the sake of hating it. Most of the people who dislike the game, or at least just it's ending, have genuine reason to, and aren't doing it because they see other people doing it.

Modifié par Mdoggy1214, 31 janvier 2013 - 09:43 .