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[BlackDahlia424]

Deerber wrote...

BlackDahlia424 wrote...

I can do this far, far better with the Drell Vanguard with better passives, grenades to set off FEs and hamster-on-crack movement speed.

As a great fan of the Drellguard, I can tell you... No, you can't. At least some of the things he did. There are certain situations in which he survived and you wouldn't have been able, as a Drellguard.


... Now, the fact that you wouldn't have been in the same situation because you would have cleared everything before they could hit you, is another thing.


Also, I'm sure Feneckus is not trying to say that the Havok is better than the Drellguard, so I don't understand why you took that into the argument... 

I made the argument because this is exactly how I play the Drell Vanguard with a Claymore. Incendiary ammo and FEs. The only difference is I can't pop a stim pack. But I also wouldn't have to in certain situations in the video because BC would've refilled my barriers anyway. And Cluster Grenades are a much better power than Cryo Blast.

I guess the one benfit the Havoc has over the Vanguard is the ability to regen shields while on cooldown. But from a damage standpoint, the DV wins handily.

[TriniWarlord]

Stahlhammer wrote...

Is Narida's builder updated for the last HS changes? Cause right now it doesn't reach the magic 1k needed to stagger our board's most beloved enemy.

fter update it now does 1050 N so yea its in the "safe" region

[Deerber]

MetalDeggial wrote...

Feneckus wrote...

MetalDeggial wrote...

Yeah well, in the video, you never needed Havoc Strike because everything got mauled by the Claymore and you activated HS when they had two bars of health or armor that were about to be consumed by the incendiary effect.

I had a Shotgun Rail Amp III, Incendiary IV and Shock Trooper gear. Havoc Strike would have much more useful without those high level consumables and grenade capacity.

And how is this power better than Biotic Charge?

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Can you survive when two cerberus turrets are shooting at you with biotic charge ? Because you can with Havoc Strike. 

It's called bonus power (6A evo) bro. Use it. I use it and it rocks. All those "art of Drellguard" videos are jokes since nobody is using bonus power with him. Also, Biotic Charge + melee, Kroguard, etc. Gotta get those damage reduction bonuses going.

Really, there is nothing Havoc Strike can do better than Biotic Charge, outside of getting you killed more often by sync-kill-happy units.

The dual strike is the only thing this character has going for it.

What is this, I don't even...

spudspot wrote...

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

It's not like it affects you anyway, given that you set sync kill % to 0 in your .ini file.

Mine is at -5%, it's totally epic when a Banshee kills herself from time to time. 

Not that I'd see it often since I basically one-shot any enemy in the game with my trusty Avenger.

Modifié par Deerber, 31 janvier 2013 - 05:21 .

[Deerber]

BlackDahlia424 wrote...

I guess the one benfit the Havoc has over the Vanguard is the ability to regen shields while on cooldown. But from a damage standpoint, the DV wins handily.

Definitely. But then again, few characters have a damage output superior to a Drellguard.

As I see it, the Havoc is a though, sturdy character which almost never goes down and is able to dish some respectable damage, now.

I'm glad they buffed him 

[HolyAvenger]

I'm gonna use the Raider. May as well get the best out of those Turian stability passives.

[CmnDwnWrkn]

spudspot wrote...

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

It's not like it affects you anyway, given that you set sync kill % to 0 in your .ini file.

Mine is at -5%, it's totally epic when a Banshee kills herself from time to time. 

Not that I'd see it often since I basically one-shot any enemy in the game with my trusty Avenger.

Just make sure you don't make the edits TOO obvious, or other players might take notice.  Annomander can give you some tips on how to edit most game parameters in ways that are hard to detect.

[Deerber]

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

spudspot wrote...

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

It's not like it affects you anyway, given that you set sync kill % to 0 in your .ini file.

Mine is at -5%, it's totally epic when a Banshee kills herself from time to time. 

Not that I'd see it often since I basically one-shot any enemy in the game with my trusty Avenger.

Just make sure you don't make the edits TOO obvious, or other players might take notice.  Annomander can give you some tips on how to edit most game parameters in ways that are hard to detect.

I'm pretty sure that with your IQ you wouldn't be able to notice even if it was -250%...

Modifié par Deerber, 31 janvier 2013 - 05:26 .

[BlackDahlia424]

Deerber wrote...

BlackDahlia424 wrote...

I guess the one benfit the Havoc has over the Vanguard is the ability to regen shields while on cooldown. But from a damage standpoint, the DV wins handily.

Definitely. But then again, few characters have a damage output superior to a Drellguard.

As I see it, the Havoc is a though, sturdy character which almost never goes down and is able to dish some respectable damage, now.

I'm glad they buffed him 

Truthfully the buff was very significant now that it can stagger phantoms without both force&damage evos. And Stim Packs are obviously a great power.

I'll give the Havoc another shot.

[spudspot]

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

spudspot wrote...

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

It's not like it affects you anyway, given that you set sync kill % to 0 in your .ini file.

Mine is at -5%, it's totally epic when a Banshee kills herself from time to time. 

Not that I'd see it often since I basically one-shot any enemy in the game with my trusty Avenger.

Just make sure you don't make the edits TOO obvious, or other players might take notice.  Annomander can give you some tips on how to edit most game parameters in ways that are hard to detect.

Trust me, I'll be fine. I only edit .ini values in matches that I record and upload to youtube. I also post them on the BSN so people see how good I am, like any clever person would do.

Modifié par spudspot, 31 janvier 2013 - 05:29 .

[Tchu Tchu Tchu Paaaa]

Nice video... didn' know about that reload cancel with Havoc Strike... (actually I don't wanna say that I am a newbie, but I am).

Thanks for the video.

[AaronEh]

HolyAvenger wrote...

I'm gonna use the Raider. May as well get the best out of those Turian stability passives.

This is what I use normally with him.  It works well.

[brazen_nl]

Thanks for this.

[CmnDwnWrkn]

spudspot wrote...

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

spudspot wrote...

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

It's not like it affects you anyway, given that you set sync kill % to 0 in your .ini file.

Mine is at -5%, it's totally epic when a Banshee kills herself from time to time. 

Not that I'd see it often since I basically one-shot any enemy in the game with my trusty Avenger.

Just make sure you don't make the edits TOO obvious, or other players might take notice.  Annomander can give you some tips on how to edit most game parameters in ways that are hard to detect.

Trust me, I'll be fine. I only edit .ini values in matches that I record and upload to youtube. I also post them on the BSN so people see how good I am, like any clever person would do.

That's cool.  Most PC players tweak the gameplay to their liking, so you're in good company.

[Shampoohorn]

MetalDeggial wrote...

Feneckus wrote...

Can you survive when two cerberus turrets are shooting at you with biotic charge ? Because you can with Havoc Strike. 

It's called bonus power (6A evo) bro. Use it. ...

That's a joke right?  Drellguards come out of BC with 50% DR on at most 850 shields.  And you're relying on a power evolution that works 33% of the time, and even then likely would not save you from one turret -- let alone two.  LoL, you are out on a limb there. 
...

Moving on, thanks for the vid.  I've always been a low cooldown light weapon player with the Havoc, but that claymore action is niice.  I'll probably still go with a melee build and skip Cryoblast.

Havoc Strike does seem to miss a lot more than Biotic Charge though.  I was suprised that idiot assault trooper at 6:01 not only didn't take damage but was whipping out that stun baton to thwack you.

Modifié par Shampoohorn, 31 janvier 2013 - 05:41 .

[AaronEh]

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

That's cool.  Most PC players tweak the gameplay to their liking, so you're in good company.

All bark and no bite.  Please offer some proof to support your claims.

[BridgeBurner]

AaronEh wrote...

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

That's cool.  Most PC players tweak the gameplay to their liking, so you're in good company.

All bark and no bite.  Please offer some proof to support your claims.

Ignore him, he's a moron.

[Lisl]

dat condor map -.-

btt: nice gameplay, going to try this later today

[Zjarcal]

Feneckus wrote...

The Drell Vanguard is arguably the best character in the game. Being less effective than him doesn't mean anything ...

Better than the GI, Kroguard, TGI?

Nerf the Drellguard then? 

[MetalDeggial]

Shampoohorn wrote...

MetalDeggial wrote...

Feneckus wrote...

Can you survive when two cerberus turrets are shooting at you with biotic charge ? Because you can with Havoc Strike. 

It's called bonus power (6A evo) bro. Use it. ...

That's a joke right?  Drellguards come out of BC with 50% DR on at most 850 shields.  And you're relying on a power evolution that works 33% of the time, and even then likely would not save you from one turret -- let alone two.  LoL, you are out on a limb there. 
...

Moving on, thanks for the vid.  I've always been a low cooldown light weapon player with the Havoc, but that claymore action is niice.  I'll probably still go with a melee build and skip Cryoblast.

Havoc Strike does seem to miss a lot more than Biotic Charge though.  I was suprised that idiot assault trooper at 6:01 not only didn't take damage but was whipping out that stun baton to thwack you.

No, I'm not joking. Bonus Power on the Drellguard, the Protector, the Kroguard and the Asari Vanguard is one of the most ridiculous things ever. I'm still in awe that no-one uses this. I started using bonus power when Jack Crapper told me to use it with the Volus Protector, and I was speechless at how good it was.

Also, the Drellguard gets a maximum of 450 shields with full fitness. I'm not using CycloMods with him like a scrub. Adrenaline Mod III all day, every day. Why do you need the other half of the shields for? You'll get annihilated as soon as you finish the charge full shields or not... unless you can charge again, and believe me: I can with this "pathetic" 33% chance. With bonus power, I will charge 2, 3, 4, sometimes 5 or 6 times in a row, with a 40% power damage bonus every single time as well as the amazing power passives.

Those who don't know about bonus power and dismiss it as a bad evo really don't know what they are talking about. I've been called a cheater and a hacker by ignorants for using this evo and never dying in a match with him. But sure, keep using the barrier evo with the Drellguard. I don't care. Stay free. The more for me the mo bettah.

Modifié par MetalDeggial, 31 janvier 2013 - 06:28 .

[Deerber]

Zjarcal wrote...

Feneckus wrote...

The Drell Vanguard is arguably the best character in the game. Being less effective than him doesn't mean anything ...

Better than the GI, Kroguard, TGI?

Nerf the Drellguard then? 

Whoever suggests that needs to watch his back...

In real life 

[CmnDwnWrkn]

AaronEh wrote...

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

That's cool.  Most PC players tweak the gameplay to their liking, so you're in good company.

All bark and no bite.  Please offer some proof to support your claims.

There are Coalesced editing discussions all over the place.  Multiplayer editing is well-documented and easily accessible. Easier to access than instructions on how to missile glitch even.  Updated frequently to stay ahead of patches.  Ready-made edited files ready for download.  There is a ton of interest in editing the game files, and guides are available on how to tweak pretty much any gameplay parameter you want to.

But I'm supposed to believe it's all theoretical and no one actually does this, right???

If you're a PC player I just assume you're playing with edited files unless you prove otherwise.  That's how pervasive cheating on PC is.

Annomander wrote...

AaronEh wrote...

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

That's cool.  Most PC players tweak the gameplay to their liking, so you're in good company.

All bark and no bite.  Please offer some proof to support your claims.

Ignore him, he's a moron.

All this childish name-calling you engage in is getting old.

Modifié par CmnDwnWrkn, 31 janvier 2013 - 06:47 .

[robarcool]

Feneckus wrote...

Annomander wrote...

0/10

No claymore, would not bang, would throw out airlock

Wait... there is claymore! Rejoice!

Annomander, can you explain this -> http://www.youtube.c...5ZJBv2E#t=6m30s

That phantom did not try to melee me, she shot her palm cannon, took cover and then immediately stabbed me. WTF ?

Not annomander, but I think this is "working as intended"

[lightswitch]

I liked Havoc Strike before it was cool.

[Dunvi]

Annomander wrote...

I'm still laughing my ass off at the reapers hydra space magic sync kill part. That was some impressive space magic, I mean, my connection isn't THAT laggy, riiiiight?

And no, I can't explain the phantom sync kill. Sometimes, phantoms just decide to sync kill you, usually only happens with freshly spawned phantoms *shrug*. It's no doubt working as intended.

Same here. It looked even more ridiculous on my screen than on Feneckus' because he just *POP* appeared in the middle of the air in the middle of the sync kill animation...

Regarding the drellguard vs havoc argument, first of all, really, guys? Second of all, easily half the point of this class is that it runs a heavy weapon. He can carry very heavy weapon because he uses stimpacks instead of the charge itself to regen his shields, he can do so whenever, even when HS is on cooldown, or when there's nothing good to charge. Not to mention that HS has a shorter base cooldown, the effects of which are very magnified when you're looking at weapons like the Claymore.

Furthermore, the drellguard must take at least one of the power evolutions in the passive to be effective, while the Havoc needs neither, which coupled with turian stability bonuses makes him an arguably better weapons platform (plus, my drellguard takes both power evolutions because I need to make clusters sillier).

Modifié par Dunvi, 31 janvier 2013 - 07:15 .

[spudspot]

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

There are Coalesced editing discussions all over the place.  Multiplayer editing is well-documented and easily accessible. Easier to access than instructions on how to missile glitch even.  Updated frequently to stay ahead of patches.  Ready-made edited files ready for download.  There is a ton of interest in editing the game files, and guides are available on how to tweak pretty much any gameplay parameter you want to.

But I'm supposed to believe it's all theoretical and no one actually does this, right???

If you're a PC player I just assume you're playing with edited files unless you prove otherwise.  That's how pervasive cheating on PC is.

Ok, this is either your most subtle troll so far or words cannot describe how stupid that post is.