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#51
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coz it´s weak, stupid and short... and execution is always the same and disgusting with ninja and his rocket chooper...

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You lose. People don't like losing. I personally thought it was one of the best missions of the game.

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Alien Number Six wrote...

You lose. People don't like losing. I personally thought it was one of the best missions of the game.

QFT

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Apparently, people don't like losing. This is also why some people don;t like the ending, they want everything to be triumphant and in favor of their Shepard. 

Modifié par Eterna5, 31 janvier 2013 - 06:18 .


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All I see here is a bunch of complainers. "Wahh Kai Leng didn't die after I used my Black Widow."
"Wahh why can't I help Thane when he's fighting Kai Leng" "Wahh why can't I call the Normandy to follow the gunship." It's the same old story. The game isn't about sunshine and rainbows, it's about art.

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Alien Number Six wrote...

You lose. People don't like losing. I personally thought it was one of the best missions of the game.


I don't know. People didn't complain about Saren's Virmire "plot armor". I think the problem is how we lose, it simply not very believable.

Modifié par Barquiel, 31 janvier 2013 - 06:20 .


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Don't really hate it myself. But I am no fan of the Asari so going to their home planet was of no interest to me anyway... And I don't like Kai Leng either and his "boss fight" there. The after match is just stupid and the reactions are overdone. Joker's joke wasn't that good but my Shepard wouldn't react the way she did to it...

Thessia to me just feels like Bioware's attempt at making me like/feel sorry for the Asari.

The actual map and gameplay I don't mind.

Modifié par Thrazesul, 31 janvier 2013 - 06:23 .


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BirdsallSa wrote...

Masha Potato wrote...

Awfully designed fight with Kai Leng isn't enough?

That fight was amazing, actually. There Leng is, the only thing standing in the way of stopping the Reapers once and for all. But, for all Shepard's might, he isn't good enough to stop Kai from grabbing the intel. It gives the player undeniable respect for Kai Leng and establishes him as a tremendous threat. After that fight, I was seriously doubting whether or not I could defeat him.


What you're doing...

I see it.

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BirdsallSa wrote...

IanPolaris wrote...

Kai Leng should have gone down after two shots with my Black Widow after I shorted his shields.  Kai Leng only wins because of the power of plot, and the game doesn't even bother to hide it.

-Polaris

I've said this already, Kai Leng was holding back. Kai Leng and The Illusive man even discuss the multiple times Leng could have killed Shepard but TIM wasn't "willing to count Shepard off as a total loss just yet".  He wins because he was the better man on that day.


So? Holding back in a fight makes you stupid and dead. No Kai Lame believes he could take Shepard on but considering how a terminally ill Drell nearly beat him, it just highlights how moronic he is. A “better man"? The **** am I reading?

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Well, I never fancied the Asari save for a few exceptions, but after Thessia, I felt they deserved punishment for hiding a beacon that would save lives and end the Reaper threat far earlier. Hell, I'd petition to remove them from the Council if we didn't have Harbinger up our ass crack.

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BirdsallSa wrote...

All I see here is a bunch of complainers. "Wahh Kai Leng didn't die after I used my Black Widow."
"Wahh why can't I help Thane when he's fighting Kai Leng" "Wahh why can't I call the Normandy to follow the gunship." It's the same old story. The game isn't about sunshine and rainbows, it's about art.


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You're like every pro-ender cliche rolled into one. It's hysterical.

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BirdsallSa wrote...

All I see here is a bunch of complainers. "Wahh Kai Leng didn't die after I used my Black Widow."
"Wahh why can't I help Thane when he's fighting Kai Leng" "Wahh why can't I call the Normandy to follow the gunship." It's the same old story. The game isn't about sunshine and rainbows, it's about art.


It's also about not being logical and having the IQ of a rock. It's stupid, plain and simple.

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Cuttlebone wrote...

Looking at the thread of worst mission in the series, a lot of people have pointed at the Thessia mission. I can understand Priority Earth, or the geth consensus, but it truly riddles me why would someone point out Thessia as the worst of them all. Wasn't it up to expectations? was it the level design? or the overall story and revelations? I'm not trying to defend it, even though I liked it, I just don't get why so much dislike for it, especially compared to other missions.


The main reason is that Thessia railroads my Shepard into feelings of guilt over not having been able to save the Asari homeworld. I, however, was feeling angry about the Asari hiding this beacon for so long and wanted to confront the Asari Councilor on the matter but I wasn't able to. This is yet another instance where the game tries to manipulate me into feeling something I'm not.

Other reasons include the rigged fight with Kai Leng and the lack of any kind of Asari response to the Reaper attack (they're supposed to be the most advanced civilization in the galaxy!).

EDIT: And let us not forget the "conflict" it creates if the Asari supposedly had this beacon back in ME1.

Modifié par OdanUrr, 31 janvier 2013 - 06:28 .


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legion999 wrote...

BirdsallSa wrote...

All I see here is a bunch of complainers. "Wahh Kai Leng didn't die after I used my Black Widow."
"Wahh why can't I help Thane when he's fighting Kai Leng" "Wahh why can't I call the Normandy to follow the gunship." It's the same old story. The game isn't about sunshine and rainbows, it's about art.


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You're like every pro-ender cliche rolled into one. It's hysterical.

He is trolling.

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I liked Geth Concensus, actually, but I *am* a Geth/Legion fan, and also a TRON fan.

Thessia was problematic for a few reasons:
1) Liara is acting like this isn't happening *to every other planet in the galaxy*. Yes, she was a good friend to Shep, and sympathetic about earth, but then she has a complete melt-down, and clearly feels that more work should be put into helping Thessia ("How about next time the Alliance springs for air support?" -- Yeah, no duh! If WE HAD ANY THAT WASN"T BLOWN UP)

2) Kai Leng fight: I nuked him into oblivion on the second attempt. I died on the first attempt due to a glitch. The cinematic was the only reason he wasn't bubbling paste. He's annoying, and his 'value' was enforced, not earned.

3) one long gauntlet.

Bringing Javik is the only plus for me now, because he's the only one who puts a check on Liara's crazy. My Shep is too nice/polite to really call LIara out on it.

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legion999 wrote...

BirdsallSa wrote...

IanPolaris wrote...

Kai Leng should have gone down after two shots with my Black Widow after I shorted his shields.  Kai Leng only wins because of the power of plot, and the game doesn't even bother to hide it.

-Polaris

I've said this already, Kai Leng was holding back. Kai Leng and The Illusive man even discuss the multiple times Leng could have killed Shepard but TIM wasn't "willing to count Shepard off as a total loss just yet".  He wins because he was the better man on that day.


So? Holding back in a fight makes you stupid and dead. No Kai Lame believes he could take Shepard on but considering how a terminally ill Drell nearly beat him, it just highlights how moronic he is. A “better man"? The **** am I reading?

How exactly did Thane beat him? What I remember seeing is Thane getting killed while Shepard watches and does nothing like a coward. Leng was the better man, that day and on Thessia, and he could have just sneak killed Shepard on Chronos Station. But like I've said before THAT WAS NOT HIS JOB!

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jstme wrote...

legion999 wrote...

BirdsallSa wrote...
All I see here is a bunch of complainers. "Wahh Kai Leng didn't die after I used my Black Widow."
"Wahh why can't I help Thane when he's fighting Kai Leng" "Wahh why can't I call the Normandy to follow the gunship." It's the same old story. The game isn't about sunshine and rainbows, it's about art.

Pffft; hahahahahahahahhahhahhahahahahahahahahahahhahhahhahahahahahahahahahahhahhahhahahahahahahahahahahhahhahhahahahahahahahahahahhahhahhahahahahahahahahahahhahhahhahaha
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You're like every pro-ender cliche rolled into one. It's hysterical.

He is trolling.


And? 

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BirdsallSa wrote...
How exactly did Thane beat him? What I remember seeing is Thane getting killed while Shepard watches and does nothing like a coward. Leng was the better man, that day and on Thessia, and he could have just sneak killed Shepard on Chronos Station. But like I've said before THAT WAS NOT HIS JOB!


And this is what is wrong with every cutscene involving KL and Shepard. KL is only awesome, because Shepard is hit in the head with a rock and becomes a doofus.

Edit: Spelling.

Modifié par Ticonderoga117, 31 janvier 2013 - 06:38 .


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cyrexwingblade wrote...

I liked Geth Concensus, actually, but I *am* a Geth/Legion fan, and also a TRON fan.


I'd have enjoyed the mission if Legion wasn't like, "I'm going to repeat myself." every time I fired at a regenerating Reaper code. It takes time to solve a puzzle, Mr. Scrapheap.

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BirdsallSa wrote...

legion999 wrote...

So? Holding back in a fight makes you stupid and dead. No Kai Lame believes he could take Shepard on but considering how a terminally ill Drell nearly beat him, it just highlights how moronic he is. A “better man"? The **** am I reading?

How exactly did Thane beat him? What I remember seeing is Thane getting killed while Shepard watches and does nothing like a coward. Leng was the better man, that day and on Thessia, and he could have just sneak killed Shepard on Chronos Station. But like I've said before THAT WAS NOT HIS JOB!


When did I say Thane beat him? Again you highlight Bioware's stupid writing. It's like shooting the horse you bet on.

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legion999 wrote...

jstme wrote...

legion999 wrote...

BirdsallSa wrote...
All I see here is a bunch of complainers. "Wahh Kai Leng didn't die after I used my Black Widow."
"Wahh why can't I help Thane when he's fighting Kai Leng" "Wahh why can't I call the Normandy to follow the gunship." It's the same old story. The game isn't about sunshine and rainbows, it's about art.

Pffft; hahahahahahahahhahhahhahahahahahahahahahahhahhahhahahahahahahahahahahhahhahhahahahahahahahahahahhahhahhahahahahahahahahahahhahhahhahahahahahahahahahahhahhahhahaha
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You're like every pro-ender cliche rolled into one. It's hysterical.

He is trolling.


And? 

Pro-ender cliche rolled into one bit? It is all act, on purpose. If you like feeding trolls though - go ahead.

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Priority Thessia is cool. Especially Javik trolling Liara for the entire mission. The phone call with Tevos afterwords though... very few things in games make me want to vomit, but that scene god dam. Made even worse when my Shepard is a murdering ****.

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OdanUrr wrote...

Cuttlebone wrote...

Looking at the thread of worst mission in the series, a lot of people have pointed at the Thessia mission. I can understand Priority Earth, or the geth consensus, but it truly riddles me why would someone point out Thessia as the worst of them all. Wasn't it up to expectations? was it the level design? or the overall story and revelations? I'm not trying to defend it, even though I liked it, I just don't get why so much dislike for it, especially compared to other missions.


The main reason is that Thessia railroads my Shepard into feelings of guilt over not having been able to save the Asari homeworld. I, however, was feeling angry about the Asari hiding this beacon for so long and wanted to confront the Asari Councilor on the matter but I wasn't able to. This is yet another instance where the game tries to manipulate me into feeling something I'm not.

Other reasons include the rigged fight with Kai Leng and the lack of any kind of Asari response to the Reaper attack (they're supposed to be the most advanced civilization in the galaxy!).

u no feel sad for blue tentacle women? yeah Thessia is the point where cheesiness reaches levels beyond healthy for a game based on player choices, but the overall mission was quite good, and so was the atmosphere if you can get over low res backgrounds.

It was also the only point in the game where an npc other than your squadmates kills or damages an enemy (asari sniper that later gets blown up) Finaly I think I'm one of the few persons that actually enjoyed the boss fight, prolly cause I have a soft spot for gunships (sad, I know)

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Three reasons...for me anyway...:

1. Asari princess's fatigue

2. Kai Leng

3. For heavens sake don't speak to Joker after Thessia...apparently Asari loss gives Shep a melt down....<_<

This

#75
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jstme wrote...

legion999 wrote...

jstme wrote...

He is trolling.


And? 

Pro-ender cliche rolled into one bit? It is all act, on purpose. If you like feeding trolls though - go ahead.


Pretty awful purpose, I never understood the desire to make yourself look ridiculous.