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[born2beagator]

LoboFH wrote...

You don't get it, the weapon is more effective with the charge feature, you can run with it ready, it doesn't break the cloak, more powerful (BioWare wiuld nerf its punch to balance the easier handling), the reload time is annoying.

Yes, it's not so noob friendly, but make a small effort, if you get used to it you will understand why is better this way

exactly.  To use a overused cliche: L2P

[Reaper_prime]

So many clueless people and profound elitism.Saying acolyte is used by anyone is like saying reegar and claymore are not.

If acolyte needs to be balanced to remain chargeless add it weight-nerf it so it needs ultra light materials without weight mods.

Edit: Now you add "it's noob friendly" arguments?Preposterous!

Modifié par Reaper_prime, 01 février 2013 - 01:05 .

[Grammaton Dryad]

LoboFH wrote...

You don't get it, the weapon is more effective with the charge feature, you can run with it ready, it doesn't break the cloak, more powerful (BioWare wiuld nerf its punch to balance the easier handling), the reload time is annoying.

Yes, it's not so noob friendly, but make a small effort, if you get used to it you will understand why is better this way

[STRANGE10VE]

My fury and drell adepts can't wait for the charge to come back.

[Lucky]

LoboFH wrote...

You don't get it, the weapon is more effective with the charge feature, you can run with it ready, it doesn't break the cloak, more powerful (BioWare wiuld nerf its punch to balance the easier handling), the reload time is annoying.

Yes, it's not so noob friendly, but make a small effort, if you get used to it you will understand why is better this way

Your argument is invalid, it is better with the charge and therefore more deserving of a nerf than if it was charge-less. Also, the charge benefits tanky classes that can afford to take a few hits while charging and not the squishy characters who can't (and who the gun was intended for).

I'm with grumpy old wizard on this one the charge makes it less friendly to its intended users, the poor squishy casters.

[BloodClaw95]

Isn't it made for casters?

How are squishy casters supposed to use it when you have to spend a half hour to charge it up?

[oXTheReverendXo]

Grumpy Old Wizard wrote...

Sadly the "caster" pistol is predetermined by Bioware to be caster unfriendly apparently.  The charge is great for vangods but sucks for squishy casters.  Oh well, the game is all about run and gun and guns and grenades now and I don't see that changing.  Switching back to weekend challenge mode for ME3 and moving on to other games for main play.  It is sad though that space magic in the Mass Effect series is very subordinate to shooty classes and tech classes.

I lol'd. The only characters I use it on are "squishy casters."

[born2beagator]

BloodClaw95 wrote...

Isn't it made for casters?

How are squishy casters supposed to use it when you have to spend a half hour to charge it up?

I use it on every caster without issue.  The charge is really, really not a big deal.

[FlashAK]

I'm glad that they're keeping it as a charged weapon. Those who appreciate the weapon will learn to compensate for the charge if they haven't already. For those that aren't willing to adjust, well you'll just have to suck it up and deal with it.

[Reaper_prime]

born2beagator wrote...

BloodClaw95 wrote...

Isn't it made for casters?

How are squishy casters supposed to use it when you have to spend a half hour to charge it up?

I use it on every caster without issue.  The charge is really, really not a big deal.

On silver?

[UnknownMercenary]

Cons of the charge less Acolyte:
- it runs out of ammo eventually


Wouldn't get nerfed at all, nope

[Grammaton Dryad]

rlucht wrote...

LoboFH wrote...

You don't get it, the weapon is more effective with the charge feature, you can run with it ready, it doesn't break the cloak, more powerful (BioWare wiuld nerf its punch to balance the easier handling), the reload time is annoying.

Yes, it's not so noob friendly, but make a small effort, if you get used to it you will understand why is better this way

Your argument is invalid, it is better with the charge and therefore more deserving of a nerf than if it was charge-less. Also, the charge benefits tanky classes that can afford to take a few hits while charging and not the squishy characters who can't (and who the gun was intended for).

I'm with grumpy old wizard on this one the charge makes it less friendly to its intended users, the poor squishy casters.

ROFLMAO fail.

It's called soft cover. Squishy characters can use it charged just fine. The charge benefits classes that are on-the-move.

You clearly have no clue how to use the weapon.

[BloodClaw95]

born2beagator wrote...

BloodClaw95 wrote...

Isn't it made for casters?

How are squishy casters supposed to use it when you have to spend a half hour to charge it up?

I use it on every caster without issue.  The charge is really, really not a big deal.

If it's not a big deal, who cares if it's gone?

[Grammaton Dryad]

Reaper_prime wrote...

born2beagator wrote...

BloodClaw95 wrote...

Isn't it made for casters?

How are squishy casters supposed to use it when you have to spend a half hour to charge it up?

I use it on every caster without issue.  The charge is really, really not a big deal.

On silver?

On platinum.

[born2beagator]

Reaper_prime wrote...

born2beagator wrote...

BloodClaw95 wrote...

Isn't it made for casters?

How are squishy casters supposed to use it when you have to spend a half hour to charge it up?

I use it on every caster without issue.  The charge is really, really not a big deal.

On silver?

Gold and Platinum.  I play very little silver and bronze.  if you are hoping to use the acolyte as a damage weapon on a caster class, you are using it wrong.

[GallowsPole]

Negative. There's always the TGI and Harrier though.

[oXTheReverendXo]

BloodClaw95 wrote...

Isn't it made for casters?

How are squishy casters supposed to use it when you have to spend a half hour to charge it up?

Hold down the charge while you're moving to the enemy. Use soft cover (which is better than hard cover 99% of the time anyway).

IIRC, the charge up time is actually a bit faster than the forced 1-second refire on the chargeless variant, so your second shot will be quicker if you need it.

[BloodClaw95]

UnknownMercenary wrote...

Cons of the charge less Acolyte:
- it runs out of ammo eventually


Wouldn't get nerfed at all, nope

Rate of Fire says hello.

[Bryan Johnson]

Simply put we have every intention to return it to being a charge up weapon

[born2beagator]

BloodClaw95 wrote...

born2beagator wrote...

BloodClaw95 wrote...

Isn't it made for casters?

How are squishy casters supposed to use it when you have to spend a half hour to charge it up?

I use it on every caster without issue.  The charge is really, really not a big deal.

If it's not a big deal, who cares if it's gone?

Becuase the last time they took it off, it was nerfed shortly after and Fagnan said that the first nerf wasn't enough

[Lucky]

Of course I know what soft cover is and I use the weapon fine when its charged my point is that the charge benefits characters who can take a hit moreso than those that can't. Are you arguing that squishy casters shouldn't be allowed to use hard cover effectively?

[born2beagator]

Bryan Johnson wrote...

Simply put we have every intention to return it to being a charge up weapon

:D:D:D:D


Bioware:wub:

[Reaper_prime]

Grammaton Dryad wrote...

rlucht wrote...

LoboFH wrote...

You don't get it, the weapon is more effective with the charge feature, you can run with it ready, it doesn't break the cloak, more powerful (BioWare wiuld nerf its punch to balance the easier handling), the reload time is annoying.

Yes, it's not so noob friendly, but make a small effort, if you get used to it you will understand why is better this way

Your argument is invalid, it is better with the charge and therefore more deserving of a nerf than if it was charge-less. Also, the charge benefits tanky classes that can afford to take a few hits while charging and not the squishy characters who can't (and who the gun was intended for).

I'm with grumpy old wizard on this one the charge makes it less friendly to its intended users, the poor squishy casters.

ROFLMAO fail.

It's called soft cover. Squishy characters can use it charged just fine. The charge benefits classes that are on-the-move.

You clearly have no clue how to use the weapon.

Lol,so caster are always on the move.

I agree valkyrie and fury benefit the most.

Now what about drell,asari and human/phoenix adepts?

[painforest]

I prefer it without the charge. I've yet to see anyone give a reason as to why charge is superior to charge-less that doesn't sound like code for "it's more difficult to use aka it's not a noob tube anymore".