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[corporal doody]

Jayhau wrote...

I almost always choose a female to play as. I mean if Im going to be looking at something for 30+ hours it may as well be something pretty. I also never romance in games RPGs unless its for achievements ha.

Although I have to be quick to state I'm not female in real life because there are some creepy guys out there lol.

And my gal makes fun of me because all the characters I make have similar features as she does..

That said, in multiplayer I don't care if it's male or female. Just love new kits

agree with this for the most part.

im a dude....so im a dude irl. i know how being a dude is. playing as some other dude doesnt really thrill me more often than not...I dont care if dude is Dandy Pete or a Buff Biggly. dude has to be  super super unique.

if imma spend tens of hours in a game...i would perfer playing as the female character. IF it is a RPG and/or there is a s/s romance...imma go f/f 100% of the time (phontashee).

something about the aesthetics, the female voice, and a asskicking chick. mmm mhmm delicious.


more female characters are most welcome...if i want more macho i just need look in a mirror

[Descy_]

Tipsyfresh wrote...


i mean asari aren't even women in-game, they're genderless. According to Liara from Mass Effect (1). 

Mono-gendered, not genderless.

[Flambrose]

I remember hoping that the quarian marksman was female before his model was released. There's plenty of cool gun specialist female characters in media.

It's a shame all of the females are power-based atm. Even the huntress whom I was hoping to be a gun-based class with biotics on the side managed to have a buggy tactical cloak to ruin that. The closest we have is the Valkyrie. Really sad.

[HolyAvenger]

Lord_Sirian wrote...

I'd be happy if the next DLC was just one gigantic bunch of bug fixes, upgrades to the god-awful netcode and matchmaking system.  

Eff that. New content please. Kits, powers, maps, game modes...I want it all!

[Dark Tlaloc]

manbearpig654 wrote...

Don't care one way or another. I just want new kits. I have 22 million saved up dammit! Throw me a bone here!

Agree with the Dark Souls fan! I too would like to spend some credits, that's the bottom line.

[Dark Tlaloc]

HolyAvenger wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...

I'd be happy if the next DLC was just one gigantic bunch of bug fixes, upgrades to the god-awful netcode and matchmaking system.  

Eff that. New content please. Kits, powers, maps, game modes...I want it all!

All Prothean-centric, right?!?!? :innocent:

[billy the squid]

BjornDaDwarf wrote...

billy the squid wrote...

Hardly, the level of grandstanding which comes up when these topics of gender politics crop up drives me nuts and it's the one of the rare times where I start to get blunt and call people dense and deride the daft ideas which the vast majority of the time I'm happy to let slide with some silly levity.

The one an only issue is practicality and application. DLCs are meant to maintian a stagnatiing game and draw back a deteriorating player base, by adding something new and fresh. Kit reskins and rehashing just for the sake of it, does not cut it, and is not something that BioWare will engage in for the sake of equal representation, to believe it and continually push for it is dumb and tiresome. Financing and return ratios govern what will be included, not gender politics.

As to the new DLC, they can make it completely composed of women for all I care, gender has no bearing on anything. So long as people actually have grasped that DLC is not an avenue to push the social aspect of representation, EA is a business, it's decisions are governed by the concerns of a business. Nothing more. 

I should probably stop before I end up tearing into someone, I don't like doing that when it's not warranted.

Huh, you've made what, appear to be, some interesting assumptions there.

That female characters will just reskins and rehashes?  That female characters will be result in a product that is less likely to be monetized successfully?   That the only reason people ask for female characters is gender politics or to push for a social agenda?

I don't see where any of your points have anything at all to do with whether or not people want female characters.  

Interesting.

Read back into this thread. And the numerous times it's been brought up in other threads. The first page, the answers were equal representation. Not a ringing endorsement of the deranged way a portion of the community thinks. Did I say that the female characters would be reskins?

No. It has been a point which has been brought up before, that BioWare should make new skins for existing characters so they are women. 

And you've missed the point with your final one. Do people ask because of those points? No. Do they use those arguments to make their case? Yes. Again, the times this has been brought up again, and again, is insane. The definition of insanity. Repeating the same thing over and over, expecting a different result. As I said EA's concerns are not the concerns that people like to play with a female character, that people feel they can't "role play a character" EA's concern is their bottom line.

And I like how you ignored completely my explaination of why trying to push more women characters is not something that enters into EA's mind when it comes to financing, and the practicalities of implementing it. The previous DLC is a perfect example. It was cheaper to rehash all the character kits and jiggle the powes around.

Modifié par billy the squid, 01 février 2013 - 05:09 .

[Tipsyfresh]

Descy_ wrote...

Tipsyfresh wrote...


i mean asari aren't even women in-game, they're genderless. According to Liara from Mass Effect (1). 

Mono-gendered, not genderless.

you may be right actually.  Still my point is that Liara explains that gender works differently for asari. So when Kaiden was upset I went with Liara although I'm a lady-Shephard and Kaiden says but she's a GURL...Liara says it doesn't work that way.    

[Jayhau]

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Jayhau wrote...

I almost always choose a female to play as. I mean if Im going to be looking at something for 30+ hours it may as well be something pretty. I also never romance in games RPGs unless its for achievements ha.

Although I have to be quick to state I'm not female in real life because there are some creepy guys out there lol.

And my gal makes fun of me because all the characters I make have similar features as she does..

That said, in multiplayer I don't care if it's male or female. Just love new kits

  

Why not make a pretty guy to look at? I did.

wait... I have to... Draw you 

ive made some pretty men but they end up always looking like Jacob... 

[TriniWarlord]

Lord_Sirian wrote...

No you aren't. You're ugly, overweight and probably have tons of acne. All gamers fit this description. No exceptions.

Not all my friend, speak for yourself

Can't we all just... get along?

Lets all sing Kumbaya, I'll start

Kumbaya my Lord Kumbaya

...

[corporal doody]

manbearpig654 wrote...

corporal doody wrote...

Jayhau wrote...

I almost always choose a female to play as. I mean if Im going to be looking at something for 30+ hours it may as well be something pretty. I also never romance in games RPGs unless its for achievements ha.

Although I have to be quick to state I'm not female in real life because there are some creepy guys out there lol. 

And my gal makes fun of me because all the characters I make have similar features as she does.. 

That said, in multiplayer I don't care if it's male or female. Just love new kits

agree with this for the most part.

im a dude....so im a dude irl. i know how being a dude is. playing as some other dude doesnt really thrill me more often than not...I dont care if dude is Dandy Pete or a Buff Biggly. dude has to be  super super unique. 

if imma spend tens of hours in a game...i would perfer playing as the female character. IF it is a RPG and/or there is a s/s romance...imma go f/f 100% of the time (phontashee).

something about the aesthetics, the female voice, and a asskicking chick. mmm mhmm delicious.


more female characters are most welcome...if i want more macho i just need look in a mirror

Im a dude, playing a dude, disguised as another dude!

you're a dude that dont know what dude he is!

[Imperator_Prime]

IllusiveManJr wrote...

This isn't a thread for fem-bashing, I just want to ask why some people are adamant about ME3 MP getting more female characters. I don't understand why some are pushing for this to happen so much. 

This is going to unintentionally sound like I'm coming out as a MTF transsexual-- I'm not-- but has it ever occurred to you, even once, that not everyone wants to be (or play at being) a male?     There are these people called 'women'-- they actually constitute approximately half the population of your species-- and many of them are quite content to be women, and if they were to don a fictional persona for some entertainment media (like a video game) would prefer to reflect themselves by playing female characters.

Then there are (straight) men who might want to play a female avatar for aesthetic reasons (ie. "She's prettier to follow around from behind than a dude").  <_<

There are other reasons, even.  As many reasons as there are people calling for the inclusion of more female characters.  The notions of inclusion and equal representation (perhaps even-- say it ain't so!-- gender parity between fiction and reality) shouldn't be so remarkable; the fact that the OP comes right out and questions "why" indicates chauvinism, because the counterpoint is naturally "why wouldn't everyone accept and embrace an all-male paradigm?"  It smacks of (probably white, almost definitely straight, and certainly oblivious) male privilege-- the kind of power that blithely asserts itself over others and doesn't even realize why they might get pissed off.

In other words, to the OP-- dude, just having the mentality that poses your question is why a lot of women (and other feminists) probably say hateful things about you behind your back.  :-P

[d_nought]

Lord_Sirian wrote...

No you aren't. You're ugly, overweight and probably have tons of acne. All gamers fit this description. No exceptions.

Lord_Sirian wrote...

overweight

Hey now I'm not a cheeseburger huffing 'Murrican

[saxybeast418]

Number of Female Kits: 16
Number of Genderless Kits: 3
Number of Male Kits: 40

I'm neither asking for nor expecting exact 50/50 distribution here (although that would be great). I never choose a kit based on gender, and I'm certainly not looking for any sort of titillation.

My motivation is diversity. From a gameplay perspective, the multiplayer thrives on kit diversity. As such, female characters give the multiplayer more room to grow. Practically speaking, Nyreen's character model seems like a great candidate for a new class or two, and given the significance of Tali and the appearance of a handful of important female Quarians, I am surprised that the majroity of the Quarian characters are male - there's definitely room to grow there.

From a writing perspective, the Mass Effect universe has gotten deeper and more engaging with time, and I would argue that a part of that is due to the increased diversity in the characters - their backgrounds, experiences, and perspectives are the backbone of Bioware's signature character-driven storytelling style.

We can go more meta than this and talk about the benefits on expanding the games audience, but the gender of the multiplayer characters seems a tad too superficial to act as the focus of that particular conversation.

[Dark Tlaloc]

chipsandwich wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...

No you aren't. You're ugly, overweight and probably have tons of acne. All gamers fit this description. No exceptions.

Lord_Sirian wrote...

overweight

Hey now I'm not a cheeseburger huffing 'Murrican

I am, but no acne, and I'm not fat.

Only 95% of us are fat. 

[Jayhau]

Demon's souls is where I started my standard Male character.

His name is Doc, he's a black dude who is super friendly to all and ends up being a jack of all trades. Bald head always. He's a legend and usually my first character to get achievements and try a little bit of everything. I usually go back just to see wtf I was thinking at the time and it's always a laugh

He has made his way into Dark Souls and definitely going to journey into DS2.

On the other hand all my female characters are named Dax with dark features and a little on the magic stereotype. She is happily single and determined to kick ass. I couldn't remember when this started but she has been in all the Fallouts, baldur's gate, mmos, fantasy games and the like.

[billy the squid]

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Imperator_Prime wrote...

There are other reasons, even.  As many reasons as there are people calling for the inclusion of more female characters.  The notions of inclusion and equal representation (perhaps even-- say it ain't so!-- gender parity between fiction and reality) shouldn't be so remarkable; the fact that the OP comes right out and questions "why" indicates chauvinism, because the counterpoint is naturally "why wouldn't everyone accept and embrace an all-male paradigm?"  It smacks of (probably white, almost definitely straight, and certainly oblivious) male privilege-- the kind of power that blithely asserts itself over others and doesn't even realize why they might get pissed off.

In other words, to the OP-- dude, just having the mentality that poses your question is why a lot of women (and other feminists) probably say hateful things about you behind your back.  :-P

 

That's the dumbest thing I've read since the last time I saw a GallowsPole post.

Yep, it's a perfect example of what I was talking about. 

The only thing that matters is if the DLC brings something new to the table. That's it. Genders, men or women is largely irrelevant.

[Jayhau]

Lord_Sirian wrote...
*snip

My favourite broshep that I made was the spitting image of this guy. But he had blonde hair and designer stubble too. 

Lol doooooode.

/swoon

Coincindece that my Dax (the name anyways) is from DS9? We're meant to be! 

[Eriseley]

Lord_Sirian wrote...

I'd be happy if the next DLC was just one gigantic bunch of bug fixes, upgrades to the god-awful netcode and matchmaking system.  

And yes people ask for random content, but they do it because they think it would be cool, not because they think Biower hates/neglects women.

Maybe they could purchase Australia some improved communications infrastructure too.

Anyway, I think people essentially are expressing that they think it would be cool if there were more representation of women in MP, or they specifically like female Turians or whatever, with more or less emotional investment, similarly to the way people go on about nerfs or Protheans or the Geth enemy facton or weekend operations (for some reason...I was just glancing at the first page).

[ottifant64]

Female characters? I play as Volus and Krogan.