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[DJ Airsurfer]

Diversity.

[GallowsPole]

When Hollywood bans romance movies, Ill get on board with the fact that the tough chica, Ripley molds are over played.

[Happy Shepard]

I feel personally offended that half of all human kits are female. I'm male and i don't think the male playerbase of ME3 MP is correctly represented by this. We are far more than just half of of the community. This is an outrage!

Oh and lore should be a somewhat more important reason to include or not include female characters than equality of alien genders in a videogame. That's why there's nothing wrong with female Turians or Krogan, but that's why there are more males than females. It's not sexist, it's how the cultures of the different races are. Okay, and also because Bioware was probably too lazy/didn't have enough time to create a female model for every race.

[HolyAvenger]

Serenity87HUN wrote...

HolyAvenger wrote...

I romanced Ash, Liara, Miranda and Tali with my DudeSheps and Garrus, Thane and Kaidan with my FemSheps. What does that make me? Really confused?

Awesome :happy:
(I meant it in the "you are doing it right" way...  )

Moar compliments, awww yisss

[billy the squid]

Rebel_Raven wrote...

Cyonan wrote...
Marksman will cause the gun to run out of ammo before the cooldown is back up, and removing Devastator Mode means having his weapons master title revoked because it ruins his damage output.

This thread went to hell a few pages ago and I'm about to get some sleep so I'll just leave you with this:

These characters are far better than you're giving them credit for. The Human Soldier especially can hold her own against the Turian Soldier, N7 Destroyer, and Quarian Marksman all of which are on the council. I did not give them that name purely based on their damage output potential, and not being on the council does not mean that they are less effective.

I use the characters I have mentioned every day in Gold as weapons platforms. They perform just as well as any Soldier that is on the council, if not better.

The GI is a special case in the same way that the Kroguard is for durability.

But you're missing out on one key point. Variety. There's only one female soldier. Would be nice if there was another, ya know? One who's base stats aren't flimsy?

I play in silver and gold as every female character. Just tired of being a caster, and tired of relying on spamming a power to be durable/do increased weapon damage. AR, Marksman, Devastator mode, Hunter mode, and such last more than a few seconds.

Also Sleep well.

Say it with me again people, moniez!

Female Turian we'll get somewhere down the line as they're already in there, the rest meh. When you decide to cough up for the DLC and BioWare attatches a $$ /££ to it then you have a point. Until then they are not going to bow to the equal representation crowd to sooth people's ideological vanity. 

Like it or not lawyers and accountants run the show, when it comes to funding and capital, and they don't give a damn.

Modifié par billy the squid, 01 février 2013 - 11:45 .

[Jarl Johnnie Walker]

I honestly don't care. If the story and character's personality are good, what does it matter what the gender is?

I don't mind playing a male character and I don't mind their being more male characters as to female.

But I do, however, accede that more bum bums are good.

[OneMore1968]

Happy Shepard wrote...

I feel personally offended that half of all human kits are female. I'm male and i don't think the male playerbase of ME3 MP is correctly represented by this. We are far more than just half of of the community. This is an outrage!

Lol, well based on that then I have some ways to go before my Human soldier is complete.  I've got the head and body, just waiting for the limbs and I will have a fully functioning FemShep.  I'll just wait for female player base to grow somewhat.    

[MittelBienchen2]

IllusiveManJr wrote...

This isn't a thread for
fem-bashing, I just want to ask why some people are adamant about ME3 MP
getting more female characters. I don't understand why some are pushing
for this to happen so much. 

I do understand why some would like to have more female characters. The reasons for this were very clearly posted in this thread by the persons posting seriously.

What I do not understand is why Sirian and cain (and others) not even try to post seriously, but immediately start to derail this thread?

What problems do you and others acting similarly have with the request to have more and maybe an equal number of female characters?

Why does the word feminist immediately pop up?

From my point of view and the experience how especially threads concerning gender topics go here, BSN would sometimes need less prejudices, more tolerance and maturity. But maybe this cannot be expected in such kind of forums.

[MindAssassin]

I don't mind either way if we get turian females or not. I haven't played the SP DLC's yet so I don't know much about this female turian on Omega except for what I foolishly read on the wiki. I figured the main reason for wanting one in MP is because the turian culture of responsibility and service is awesome and the fact that it includes strong females is appealing. Perusing this thread however, it appears I've overestimated some people.

[GallowsPole]

MittelBienchen2 wrote...

IllusiveManJr wrote...

This isn't a thread for
fem-bashing, I just want to ask why some people are adamant about ME3 MP
getting more female characters. I don't understand why some are pushing
for this to happen so much. 

I do understand why some would like to have more female characters. The reasons for this were very clearly posted in this thread by the persons posting seriously.

What I do not understand is why Sirian and cain (and others) not even try to post seriously, but immediately start to derail this thread?

What problems do you and others acting similarly have with the request to have more and maybe an equal number of female characters?

Why does the word feminist immediately pop up?

From my point of view and the experience how especially threads concerning gender topics go here, BSN would sometimes need less prejudices, more tolerance and maturity. But maybe this cannot be expected in such kind of forums.

You're on a forum where most males on it haven't even reach puberty, if at all. How thoughtful do you think they could possibly be. Im all for females being in games, but even game developers portray them as just sex objects, or as Sirian pointed out, some tough broad that in reality is just a man in a woman's skin. A lot of young men play them, and think that's how women should be. Why I believe there is some, and I repeat some, validity to too young of gamers playing violent video games. The mentality sinks in.

[billy the squid]

MittelBienchen2 wrote...

IllusiveManJr wrote...

This isn't a thread for
fem-bashing, I just want to ask why some people are adamant about ME3 MP
getting more female characters. I don't understand why some are pushing
for this to happen so much. 

I do understand why some would like to have more female characters. The reasons for this were very clearly posted in this thread by the persons posting seriously.

What I do not understand is why Sirian and cain (and others) not even try to post seriously, but immediately start to derail this thread?

What problems do you and others acting similarly have with the request to have more and maybe an equal number of female characters?

Why does the word feminist immediately pop up?

From my point of view and the experience how especially threads concerning gender topics go here, BSN would sometimes need less prejudices, more tolerance and maturity. But maybe this cannot be expected in such kind of forums.

Because there's no need to take this farce seriously, it's been flogged to death and always ends up as a train wreck, so why not have some fun while it gets there. 

Also a certain number of people who go on about equal representation seem to have their heads firmly in the clouds and haven't realised that development takes time and money and have yet to grasp we're not paying for the DLC. So why would EA's finance dept. choose to refinance a rehash of the same characters for no reason other than to sooth people's ideological vanity, because it's the right thing to put women in? Think that one through.

From my view point people need to be less dense and understand the practicalities of implementing their pipe dream, maybe then I wouldn't feel the need to deride both sides of the divide, from Stardusk's facts and figures ilk, to the equal representation brigade.

Modifié par billy the squid, 01 février 2013 - 12:06 .

[born2beagator]

Because Nyreen's character model was awesome.

[Heldarion]

GallowsPole wrote...

MittelBienchen2 wrote...

IllusiveManJr wrote...

This isn't a thread for
fem-bashing, I just want to ask why some people are adamant about ME3 MP
getting more female characters. I don't understand why some are pushing
for this to happen so much. 

I do understand why some would like to have more female characters. The reasons for this were very clearly posted in this thread by the persons posting seriously.

What I do not understand is why Sirian and cain (and others) not even try to post seriously, but immediately start to derail this thread?

What problems do you and others acting similarly have with the request to have more and maybe an equal number of female characters?

Why does the word feminist immediately pop up?

From my point of view and the experience how especially threads concerning gender topics go here, BSN would sometimes need less prejudices, more tolerance and maturity. But maybe this cannot be expected in such kind of forums.

You're on a forum where most males on it haven't even reach puberty, if at all. How thoughtful do you think they could possibly be. Im all for females being in games, but even game developers portray them as just sex objects, or as Sirian pointed out, some tough broad that in reality is just a man in a woman's skin. A lot of young men play them, and think that's how women should be. Why I believe there is some, and I repeat some, validity to too young of gamers playing violent video games. The mentality sinks in.

I just feel I should point out that most of the people posting here are, as far as I know, adults. A few threads confirming this. There was even a poll where most people turned out to be 24+.
All this provided that the participants didn't simply lie.

Besides that, you cannot ascribe that kind of behaviour to puberty or the lack thereof.

Modifié par Heldarion, 01 février 2013 - 12:15 .

[GallowsPole]

Heldarion wrote...

GallowsPole wrote...

MittelBienchen2 wrote...

IllusiveManJr wrote...

This isn't a thread for
fem-bashing, I just want to ask why some people are adamant about ME3 MP
getting more female characters. I don't understand why some are pushing
for this to happen so much. 

I do understand why some would like to have more female characters. The reasons for this were very clearly posted in this thread by the persons posting seriously.

What I do not understand is why Sirian and cain (and others) not even try to post seriously, but immediately start to derail this thread?

What problems do you and others acting similarly have with the request to have more and maybe an equal number of female characters?

Why does the word feminist immediately pop up?

From my point of view and the experience how especially threads concerning gender topics go here, BSN would sometimes need less prejudices, more tolerance and maturity. But maybe this cannot be expected in such kind of forums.

You're on a forum where most males on it haven't even reach puberty, if at all. How thoughtful do you think they could possibly be. Im all for females being in games, but even game developers portray them as just sex objects, or as Sirian pointed out, some tough broad that in reality is just a man in a woman's skin. A lot of young men play them, and think that's how women should be. Why I believe there is some, and I repeat some, validity to too young of gamers playing violent video games. The mentality sinks in.

I just feel I should point out that most of the people posting here are, as far as I know, adults. A few threads confirming this. There was even a poll where most people turned out to be 24+.
All this provided that the participants didn't simply lie.

Besides that, you cannot acribe that kind of behaviour to puberty or the lack thereof.

Sexual immaturity is sexual immaturity and just cause a poll on BSN says that, on average, the player base is over 24, I doubt that. Maybe those that post, but I doubt that's the case over all, but I could be wrong. I can be. Easily.

I wasn't really attributing it to puberty, but more sexual immaturity. Lets face it, a 15 - 20 year old kid, on average, isn't going to view a woman as someone over 30, for example. Sure there are immature 30 year olds as well as mature 20 year olds, but that's below average on either side of the spectrum.

[Heldarion]

GallowsPole wrote...

Heldarion wrote...

GallowsPole wrote...

MittelBienchen2 wrote...

IllusiveManJr wrote...

This isn't a thread for
fem-bashing, I just want to ask why some people are adamant about ME3 MP
getting more female characters. I don't understand why some are pushing
for this to happen so much. 

I do understand why some would like to have more female characters. The reasons for this were very clearly posted in this thread by the persons posting seriously.

What I do not understand is why Sirian and cain (and others) not even try to post seriously, but immediately start to derail this thread?

What problems do you and others acting similarly have with the request to have more and maybe an equal number of female characters?

Why does the word feminist immediately pop up?

From my point of view and the experience how especially threads concerning gender topics go here, BSN would sometimes need less prejudices, more tolerance and maturity. But maybe this cannot be expected in such kind of forums.

You're on a forum where most males on it haven't even reach puberty, if at all. How thoughtful do you think they could possibly be. Im all for females being in games, but even game developers portray them as just sex objects, or as Sirian pointed out, some tough broad that in reality is just a man in a woman's skin. A lot of young men play them, and think that's how women should be. Why I believe there is some, and I repeat some, validity to too young of gamers playing violent video games. The mentality sinks in.

I just feel I should point out that most of the people posting here are, as far as I know, adults. A few threads confirming this. There was even a poll where most people turned out to be 24+.
All this provided that the participants didn't simply lie.

Besides that, you cannot acribe that kind of behaviour to puberty or the lack thereof.

Sexual immaturity is sexual immaturity and just cause a poll on BSN says that, on average, the player base is over 24, I doubt that. Maybe those that post, but I doubt that's the case over all, but I could be wrong. I can be. Easily.

I wasn't really attributing it to puberty, but more sexual immaturity. Lets face it, a 15 - 20 year old kid, on average, isn't going to view a woman as someone over 30, for example. Sure there are immature 30 year olds as well as mature 20 year olds, but that's below average on either side of the spectrum.

Well, the people posting here are exactly the people I was talking about, so I am confused right now.

[GallowsPole]

Heldarion wrote...

Well, the people posting here are exactly the people I was talking about, so I am confused right now.

In this thread specifically? No. Sirian is in his early 20's I think. A majority of them might be of similar age.

[Heldarion]

GallowsPole wrote...

Heldarion wrote...

Well, the people posting here are exactly the people I was talking about, so I am confused right now.

In this thread specifically? No. Sirian is in his early 20's I think. A majority of them might be of similar age.

Cannot confirm for this thread, but the thread will probably reflect the average age. And it's not like Sirian is the only posting in here, nor are early 20's prepubescent or puberty years.

[llandwynwyn]

I don't understand either. From the aliens, Bioware can only add female quarians, volus (new voice) and female Turian. Krogans? Rare. Salarians? Important, they don't fight. Batarians? They are probably hiding their females now. Drell/Vorcha? They would have to do an official design for them, and it would take too much time.

[GallowsPole]

Heldarion wrote...

GallowsPole wrote...

Heldarion wrote...

Well, the people posting here are exactly the people I was talking about, so I am confused right now.

In this thread specifically? No. Sirian is in his early 20's I think. A majority of them might be of similar age.

Cannot confirm for this thread, but the thread will probably reflect the average age. And it's not like Sirian is the only posting in here, nor are early 20's prepubescent or puberty years.

Ill clarify my position to simply, less experience with women  And I don't mean how many they slept with.

[DragonRacer]

Random question for anyone who remembers:

Was there any giant whine-fest over adding Male Quarians? I certainly remember seeing many threads popping up asking for Male Quarians to be added, but I do not recall anyone taking issue with that request. It seemed fairly universally supported by BSN.

And then we got Male Quarians with new/unique powers.

So, why, when this happens in reverse, do people suddenly become all hinged up and also think that a female Turian would bring absolutely nothing new to the table power-wise?

[masleslie]

I can't speak for anyone else but for me it simply comes down to wanting something different.

Almost a year after release I doubt Bioware is going to surprise us with a whole lot of new character models developed specifically for a multiplayer DLC. How many characters in the last pack (excluding the Volus) were recycled?

So what models do they have that can easily be reused for new characters and really haven't been seen in MP? I'm open to any other alternatives but the Turian Female is the obvious one. The other thing I keep suggesting is Mechs based on the LOKI model, but i can't see it happening.

[HolyAvenger]

DragonRacer wrote...

Random question for anyone who remembers:

Was there any giant whine-fest over adding Male Quarians? I certainly remember seeing many threads popping up asking for Male Quarians to be added, but I do not recall anyone taking issue with that request. It seemed fairly universally supported by BSN.

And then we got Male Quarians with new/unique powers.

So, why, when this happens in reverse, do people suddenly become all hinged up and also think that a female Turian would bring absolutely nothing new to the table power-wise?

There was A LOT of whining pre-MQs, and I remember telling a lot of people to calm down about them as well.

I don't think anyone is particularly against FemTurians, but the complaints about lack of them certainly irritates me (threadwise, and posts in threads about new DLC).

[Descy_]

Boog_89 wrote...

Breasts.

agreed.

[Zkyire]

*Wants Female Turians specifically in ME3 MP*

Still, I'm finding it hard to disagree with Sirian.