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[GordianKnot42]

Dat recoil doesn't help it either. I've only been able to use it on Turians, and usually just go back to the Saber anyway.

[Feneckus]

megabeast37215 wrote...

My GI with a Crusader will kill an Atlas faster than you can with a Claymore

Damn it, you broke my BS detector 

[megabeast37215]

Air Quotes wrote...
788 damage at X. Sluggish ROF. Aim delay. Heavy as a cow. 

Now compare it to the Claymore and don't forget your sustained DPS numbers.

The Claymore is better at killing mooks... of course. Crusader is MUCH MUCH better at killing bosses.

Who cares about the weight. It's not exactly a Vanguard's shotgun.

[Hausner85]

Is the delay intentional or is this a bug? I was sure that the second is true.

[HolyAvenger]

Hausner85 wrote...

Is the delay intentional or is this a bug? I was sure that the second is true.

Its intentional.

[megabeast37215]

Feneckus wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

My GI with a Crusader will kill an Atlas faster than you can with a Claymore

Damn it, you broke my BS detector 

It will bro.

I use the GI and both weapons fairly often... hell on my friends account I've been using the Claymore GI about 40-50% of the time... I know for a fact the Crusader kills bosses faster.

One of the main reasons is that the Crusader laughs at armor DR... where the Claymore/Wraith is affected by it much more, unless you take more AP than just the Shredder mod or HVB.

[Jay_Hoxtatron]

Blind2Society wrote...

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

If it wasn't for that delay, the damage output of the Crusader would be superior to the Claymore/Wraith.

But it would weigh more and be much harder to hit with.

I know, I know.

Well it's as heavy as a Claymore I think. It would be harder to hit with though, considering the perfect accuracy of the gun. And it doesn't trivialize shieldgate like pellet based shotguns do.

[Blind2Society]

HolyAvenger wrote...

Hausner85 wrote...

Is the delay intentional or is this a bug? I was sure that the second is true.

Its intentional.

Which is a shame because it didn't need the delay at all to be a unique gun.

[Dark Tlaloc]

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

If it wasn't for that delay, the damage output of the Crusader would be superior to the Claymore/Wraith.

True, but Crusader doesn't ignore shieldgate, and it's affected by lag, unlike the other two. As it stands, the Crusader suffers from a firing delay, is hurt by shieldgate, and also sometimes has rounds disappear into thin air.

[megabeast37215]

Air Quotes wrote...
Yeah, because an Atlas is the only thing you can hit reliably with this POS. Try hitting a running strafing Phantom with it or a Nemesis. With no stagger power. 

I don't run kits without stagger powers (ahem, Volus Sentinel, Quarian Marksman). It's a huge flaw that I don't want to overcome.

Crusader does remarkably well vs Phantoms for some reason... Nemesis... yeah, I'll give you that one.

Did I mention how the Crusader destroys the entire Collector faction? Big heads, check. Troops take cover alot, check. Can't miss a Crab if you tried, check. Ditto for Scions.

[Jay_Hoxtatron]

Dark Tlaloc wrote...

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

If it wasn't for that delay, the damage output of the Crusader would be superior to the Claymore/Wraith.

True, but Crusader doesn't ignore shieldgate, and it's affected by lag, unlike the other two. As it stands, the Crusader suffers from a firing delay, is hurt by shieldgate, and also sometimes has rounds disappear into thin air.

Hey hey, I'm all for removing that delay. Just saying that without it, the Crusader would be a promo weapon I'd look forward to get in my commendation packs. Like the Hurricane right now.

[Feneckus]

Air Quotes wrote...

The Claymore will 4 shot an Atlas. Are you saying that the Crusader 1 clips an Atlas? BS. 

I think a Claymore might be able to 3 shot an Atlas. Will test later.

[megabeast37215]

Air Quotes wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

Feneckus wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

My GI with a Crusader will kill an Atlas faster than you can with a Claymore

Damn it, you broke my BS detector 

It will bro.

I use the GI and both weapons fairly often... hell on my friends account I've been using the Claymore GI about 40-50% of the time... I know for a fact the Crusader kills bosses faster.

One of the main reasons is that the Crusader laughs at armor DR... where the Claymore/Wraith is affected by it much more, unless you take more AP than just the Shredder mod or HVB.

 

The Claymore will 4 shot an Atlas. Are you saying that the Crusader 1 clips an Atlas? BS. 

Don't be F'n stupid Air Quotes.

You know what I meant... in the TIME you get off 4 RC Claymore shots (of which only two will be cloaked)... yeah... I'd have killed the Atlas before you.

[HolyAvenger]

I saw Zjarcal one-shot a Plat Atlas. Gimmicky but true.

Someone please post the sustained DPS numbers.

[UnknownMercenary]

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

Dark Tlaloc wrote...

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

If it wasn't for that delay, the damage output of the Crusader would be superior to the Claymore/Wraith.

True, but Crusader doesn't ignore shieldgate, and it's affected by lag, unlike the other two. As it stands, the Crusader suffers from a firing delay, is hurt by shieldgate, and also sometimes has rounds disappear into thin air.

Hey hey, I'm all for removing that delay. Just saying that without it, the Crusader would be a promo weapon I'd look forward to get in my commendation packs. Like the Hurricane right now.

I hope to get a Crusader this weekend, so I can finally stop getting them.

[Silent Indignation]

I'm all for getting rid of the delay because it's friggin annoying. At least fix the gun's animation to have some kind of wind up time like the Javelin. It's just super non-intuitive to shoot the gun, feel all the recoil, and then have to imagine this bullet traveling really slowly at the enemy.

[megabeast37215]

Feneckus wrote...
I think a Claymore might be able to 3 shot an Atlas. Will test later.

But that's 3 cloak cycles.... Crusader will do it in 2... maybe less.

Modifié par megabeast37215, 01 février 2013 - 02:40 .

[BridgeBurner]

Feneckus wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

The Claymore will 4 shot an Atlas. Are you saying that the Crusader 1 clips an Atlas? BS. 

I think a Claymore might be able to 3 shot an Atlas. Will test later.

Don't modifiy any files.

Don't use level VIII shotgun rail amps

Don't play on laggy hosts

Don't record it on bronze

Don't use an optimal set up

Your video will only count if its clearly on gold, you are using a level 1 targetting VI, a stability module, level III explosive ammo and an SMG amp V as gear, and you are using a human female sentinel with 0 points in passives or warp... Only then will BSN believe you!

Modifié par Annomander, 01 février 2013 - 02:41 .

[AaronEh]

megabeast37215 wrote...

Feneckus wrote...
I think a Claymore might be able to 3 shot an Atlas. Will test later.

But that's 3 cloak cycles.... Crusader will do it in 2... maybe less.

What?  Cloak -> Shoot -> Proxy Mine - > Shoot.  All in one cloak cycle.