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[megabeast37215]

Air Quotes wrote...

Yeah. Cos shooting a Dragunov in real life is the same as shooting a Widow in a game. You can quickscope and everything 

You own a Dragunov... nice bro.

I don't have anything fancy, just simple meat producers. I use a 40 year old .270 that was my fathers for deer hunting, and I have another hand-me-down 12 gauge for birds/home defense (nothing says GTFO of my house like the racking of a shotgun).

I do have a 16 gauge WWI Trench Gun that's been passed down through the family though...

[GeneralMoskvin_2.0]

The crusader's elastic barrel is annoying, I'll give you that. But one can adapt to it. That is difficult though.

But as I said, I fear a nerf as well as many others when this gets fixed. It will render some sniper rifles pretty obsolete, as well as the Saber.

[NoReapers]

Air Quotes...
I cannot take you seriously anymore, because you demand for buffs/nerfs way too often.

[Julian Skies]

And sincerely in my opinion, Air Quotes, the Crusader is one of the very few shotguns that does that as well. You hit what you point at, rather than an ovoid/circle all around where you pointed at except where you pointed at.

Which is why I really like the Crusader myself

[lightswitch]

Cyonan wrote...

lightswitch wrote...

So is it hit scan or isn't it?

I was under the impression that there is no travel time for the slug; there's just a delay between when you press the trigger and the weapon actually firing.

It's hit scan. It hits immediately(or close enough to it that it makes no difference) when you pull the trigger, which is why people are incorrect in calling it a fire delay.

It just hits where your crosshair was 0.2 seconds ago. It hits instantly, but not neccessarily where you are aiming.

This means that it's very punishing for people who rapidly switch from target to target(which I often do with a weapon like the Crusader that is capable of 1 shotting trash mobs and has a multi-round clip) or for trying to hit a smaller unit that is moving quickly at medium to long range, such as the Phantom.

I'm pretty sure there's a delay between when you pull the trigger and when the weapon actually fires. Kind of like a Javelin.

Modifié par lightswitch, 01 février 2013 - 10:22 .

[Cyonan]

lightswitch wrote...

I'm pretty sure there's a delay between when you pull the trigger and when the weapon actually fires. Kind of like a Javelin.

Truth be told there is a very slight delay that all hitscan weapons have. It's so small that it makes no real difference and we just say it's instant, as it's not something you will notice without slowing down video footage.

Either way, the gun is not like the Javelin in that you can have your crosshair over a target's head when the Crusader fires and it will not hit the target.

Likewise, you can also have your crosshair over nothing and hit a target.

The Javelin can't do this.

Modifié par Cyonan, 01 février 2013 - 10:27 .

[megabeast37215]

Cyonan wrote...
I've never fired a gun in my life, and don't really intend to do so in the near future.

Different strokes for different folks.

I love the smell of gunpowder in the morning... (and deisel exhaust for that matter).

[kaileena_sands]

 I have a better idea. Remove the Crusader. REMOVE IT! Period. <_<

It just doesn't do anything that another shotgun won't do better. Want to snipe? Take the Graal. Monstrous damage? Claymore, Raider. And it is so freaking heavy. Not to mention its crappy hit detection. While I am not the best shot, I expect when I am hitting stuff at point-blank range with my shotgun to actually HIT things. *mumbles curses at the Crusader* 

[Cyonan]

megabeast37215 wrote...

Cyonan wrote...
I've never fired a gun in my life, and don't really intend to do so in the near future.

Different strokes for different folks.

I love the smell of gunpowder in the morning... (and deisel exhaust for that matter).

The point still stands, though.

"It's easy, you just need to use it like a real life gun" is never a good argument, unless you're playing a military simulator =P

[megabeast37215]

Cyonan wrote...
The point still stands, though.

"It's easy, you just need to use it like a real life gun" is never a good argument, unless you're playing a military simulator =P

The only people I know personally who have never fired a gun are a few ditzy girls and my neighbors who are pacifists (Vietnamese refugees).

I don't leave the SE USA much

[UKStory135]

megabeast37215 wrote...

Cyonan wrote...It's hit scan. It hits immediately(or close enough to it that it makes no difference) when you pull the trigger, which is why people are incorrect in calling it a fire delay.

It just hits where your crosshair was 0.2 seconds ago. It hits instantly, but not neccessarily where you are aiming.

This means that it's very punishing for people who rapidly switch from target to target(which I often do with a weapon like the Crusader that is capable of 1 shotting trash mobs and has a multi-round clip) or for trying to hit a smaller unit that is moving quickly at medium to long range, such as the Phantom.

Lead your moving targets... just like a real gun.

It's not that hard guys. Does anyone here even shoot... in real life?

I said the same thing a few months ago.

[HolyAvenger]

I like the Crusader as it is currently, and I ain't changing my mind.

[xj3ewok]

love this shotgun just got it again and i own with it leave it alone

[megabeast37215]

UKStory135 wrote...
I said the same thing a few months ago.

I knew I liked you....

Modifié par megabeast37215, 01 février 2013 - 10:47 .

[N7-RedFox]

Cyonan wrote...

lightswitch wrote...

So is it hit scan or isn't it?

I was under the impression that there is no travel time for the slug; there's just a delay between when you press the trigger and the weapon actually firing.

It's hit scan. It hits immediately(or close enough to it that it makes no difference) when you pull the trigger, which is why people are incorrect in calling it a fire delay.

It just hits where your crosshair was 0.2 seconds ago. It hits instantly, but not neccessarily where you are aiming.

So... 0.2 secs ain't that bad right? Hold up. Add another 0.4secs to that number to get a more accurate reading of the delay. Why? Because the host lags a little when sending data to the EA server and the other 3 players lag when sending data to the host who sends that data to the EA server.

0.6 secs delay is a more accurate reading when u factor that variable in too. 

[capn233]

megabeast37215 wrote...

Lead your moving targets... just like a real gun.

It's not that hard guys. Does anyone here even shoot... in real life?

This is a bit different because it isn't real lead.

If I want to lead an object that is moving from right to left from my perspective I could potentially still hit the target if I bring the barrel straight up from rest to the POA needed to hit the moving target and fire.

If you did that with the Crusader, you would be low, unless you either held the point of aim, or where moving the weapon in the same direction as the target, which would sort of emulate real life.

[megabeast37215]

capn233 wrote...This is a bit different because it isn't real lead.

If I want to lead an object that is moving from right to left from my perspective I could potentially still hit the target if I bring the barrel straight up from rest to the POA needed to hit the moving target and fire.

If you did that with the Crusader, you would be low, unless you either held the point of aim, or where moving the weapon in the same direction as the target, which would sort of emulate real life.

I'll hold point of aim, then start strafing laterally before I pull the trigger. This is only on long shots vs moving targets. Obviously not what I would do in real life...

[UnknownMercenary]

I got it at X so I hope the delay gets removed one day.

[capn233]

megabeast37215 wrote...

I'll hold point of aim, then start strafing laterally before I pull the trigger. This is only on long shots vs moving targets. Obviously not what I would do in real life...

Sure.  I just mean the Crusader is really ass backwards from a real weapon.  For a real gun (sighted in correctly), if POA is correct when the bullet leaves the barrel, you will get a hit.  Crusader has to have the right POA when you first pull the trigger, and then anything after that doesn't matter. The doesn't matter is what is getting people, because I am sure subconciously they think they need to be on when the shot goes off, not when they pull the trigger, like with the Javelin.

It is pretty whonky really.