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[121210Olivia]

The weight would, most likely, keep the nerf bat at bay. Reducing the time it takes to fire shots would, I believe, breathe a new lease of life into this gun.

I'm for it.

Kudos Air Quotes, for the poll and this thread.

[Abramsrunner]

I love Crusader, but hate the delay.
BioWare please remove the delay on the Crusader.

[Omnifarious Nef]

It would be a good gun, a great gun in fact! If it wasn't for that damned firing delay, because of that, I simply cannot stand using it. You can be pointing directly between the eyes of a mob, pull the trigger at point blank range, and miss... Every, single, time... And it only gets worse off host. At least with the Jav, if you pull the trigger, and the gun is over a target, it will hit the target every time when the bullet comes out. It's something you can compensate for.

The Crusader fires on where you were looking .25 of a second ago, and that makes it very difficult to use, it's like having built in lag on your gun, I hate it. Without the lag, it would be like a scopeless Black Widow, and that would make it my favorite gun hands down.

Modifié par NeferiusXji, 02 février 2013 - 12:04 .

[lightswitch]

So I've just played a bunch of games with the Crusader. It's really hard to pinpoint where the lag is exactly on this thing, but I still think there's a Javelin-esque delay between clicking the fire button and the weapon firing.

All that said, this weapon would be just ridiculous if there was no firing delay, and if they changed it they would have to nerf it. I like it the way it is. This thing isn't a Harrier or Claymore, you can't just clap it on any kit and expect it to shine, but with certain setups it's very good.

[Sabbatine]

Air Quotes wrote...

5. It has almost nothing over Wraith in the range departament

I can't routinely head shot enemies at sniper rifle range with my wraith...

[nicethugbert]

Dear Bioware, Clunky Unresponsive Game Play == Not Fun.

[Zjarcal]

lightswitch wrote...

All that said, this weapon would be just ridiculous if there was no firing delay, and if they changed it they would have to nerf it.

Why do so many people keep saying this?

So it has a slightly higher RC'd DPS than a Claymore at level X... and? It weighs the same meaning not every character can use it freely (nvmd that most don't have it at X, meaning it's even heavier), it doesn't bypass shieldgate, you won't be scoring one shot kills unless you get headshots, it's still a precision weapon meaining it's not like every newbie will instantly master it (like a chargeless acolyte)... I mean, what's the logic behind saying the weapon will become OP?

I use it on my Salarian Infiltrator who with two staggering powers doesn't really care about the aim delay, and even like that it doesn't even begin to feel OP in the slightest.

Without the delay it'd be an excellent gun but.... there are already lots of other excelent guns in the game.

[megabeast37215]

Zjarcal wrote...

lightswitch wrote...

All that said, this weapon would be just ridiculous if there was no firing delay, and if they changed it they would have to nerf it.

Why do so many people keep saying this?

Because it would make the Saber look really really bad... and to some extent, the Black Widow.

[Inheritor HD]

megabeast37215 wrote...

Feneckus wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

My GI with a Crusader will kill an Atlas faster than you can with a Claymore

Damn it, you broke my BS detector 

It will bro.

I use the GI and both weapons fairly often... hell on my friends account I've been using the Claymore GI about 40-50% of the time... I know for a fact the Crusader kills bosses faster.

One of the main reasons is that the Crusader laughs at armor DR... where the Claymore/Wraith is affected by it much more, unless you take more AP than just the Shredder mod or HVB.

I believe you misinterpreted the use of that phrase there...

[BattleCop88]

I can't believe some BSNers are defending a bug. Bugs are not a legitimate balancing point. The Crusader's shots don't leave a trail, making it difficult to time your firing, so I highly doubt the delay is intentional. As I said before, it's a bug. It's annoying and needs to be fix. Biower pls remove.

[Sabbatine]

Air Quotes wrote...

No it won't. The Saber has much more ammo in clip and it can be upgraded to 14 shots. The Black Widow does more damage, benefits from sniper cloak and has built-in scope that allows for greater precision over long ranges. 

The Black Widow has a longer reload and a built in scope isn't much of an advantage considering most maps don't actually let you engage enemies at ranges where the sniper scope is optimal.

Additionally, you aren't penalized for firing from the hip with the crusader which makes it more effective at short and medium ranges and only marginally less effective at long range against smaller enemies in the open.

Not getting a bonus from the last choice in tactical cloak might hurt its effectiveness but only for certain infiltrators and the other features of the crusader might be more valuable than the bonus damage from person to person.

[llandwynwyn]

The Crusader has awful, awful recoil. Weights a lot. Can't break shieldgate without help from consumables.

It's mai hawt husbando, but the Crusader isn't OP to the point that if it gets fixed it would need a nerf.

[Blind2Society]

Still 100% behind this. The Crusader does not need the delay to be a completely unique weapon, and due to its extreme accuracy it would not be overpowered without it either. It may be in the hands of Jay, but we definitely can't balance around him ; )

[KiraTsukasa]

I've never had a single problem using the crusader after the initial "how does this new gun work" phase. It's fine as is.

[Kristen Schanche]

This would be a nice to fix, and was not originally an intended feature of the gun, but we have no plans to make any changes to the Crusader at this time. Even with the issue in place though we still like this gun and feel like it is a strong contender.

[Blind2Society]

Chris Schanche wrote...

This would be a nice to fix, and was not originally an intended feature of the gun, but we have no plans to make any changes to the Crusader at this time. Even with the issue in place though we still like this gun and feel like it is a strong contender.

I sinserely hope you guys/gals reconsider. It's a shame that what could be a great gun has such an element of luck to it. It's a unique gun and it should be up to the players aim to make it work not some cheap trick to make your aim off when it's on.
 

Modifié par Blind2Society, 02 février 2013 - 11:19 .

[llandwynwyn]

Chris Schanche wrote...

This would be a nice to fix, and was not originally an intended feature of the gun, but we have no plans to make any changes to the Crusader at this time. Even with the issue in place though we still like this gun and feel like it is a strong contender.

I can deal with it but...

[N7-RedFox]

Chris Schanche wrote...

This would be a nice to fix, and was not originally an intended feature of the gun, but we have no plans to make any changes to the Crusader at this time. Even with the issue in place though we still like this gun and feel like it is a strong contender.

The only reason i don't use my Crusader V is because of the shot delay.

[immanji]

Chris Schanche wrote...

This would be a nice to fix, and was not originally an intended feature of the gun, but we have no plans to make any changes to the Crusader at this time. Even with the issue in place though we still like this gun and feel like it is a strong contender.

I hope you change this gun. Everyone I play with wants it changed. I have it at 9 and hate the delay. It's so frustrating. It makes me want to never use it. especially off host.

[Cassandra Saturn]

Chris, what would be future changes for Crusader, if it happened at some point in due time, like.. maybe 4-5 months later? pephaps in varying length of time it takes to bring MP to full level of where it is?

[BridgeBurner]

Chris Schanche wrote...

This would be a nice to fix, and was not originally an intended feature of the gun, but we have no plans to make any changes to the Crusader at this time. Even with the issue in place though we still like this gun and feel like it is a strong contender.

There's a guy called Jay who played CS competitively and he's a pretty great shot. He missed an abomination at point blank range, 4 times while carrying the crusader.

So, the guy who can get 5 headshots from the first 5 kills of a match, using the saber with marksman active (and no doubt with 0 stability bonuses) can miss 4 times at point blank range with the crusader.

The thing is, the crusader sucks, but only if you are good at this game. If you aim and fire quickly, and go for the head instead of the body, then the crusader is absolute garbage, as you will miss, not because you didn't aim well enough, but because of the delay on the gun.

This is REALLY counter-intuitive. Where good players who aim quickly, for the head, miss their shots because the enemy head isn't in the same place 0.2 seconds later.

Modifié par Annomander, 02 février 2013 - 11:36 .

[lightswitch]

Zjarcal wrote...

lightswitch wrote...

All that said, this weapon would be just ridiculous if there was no firing delay, and if they changed it they would have to nerf it.

Why do so many people keep saying this?

So it has a slightly higher RC'd DPS than a Claymore at level X... and? It weighs the same meaning not every character can use it freely (nvmd that most don't have it at X, meaning it's even heavier), it doesn't bypass shieldgate, you won't be scoring one shot kills unless you get headshots, it's still a precision weapon meaining it's not like every newbie will instantly master it (like a chargeless acolyte)... I mean, what's the logic behind saying the weapon will become OP?

I use it on my Salarian Infiltrator who with two staggering powers doesn't really care about the aim delay, and even like that it doesn't even begin to feel OP in the slightest.

Without the delay it'd be an excellent gun but.... there are already lots of other excelent guns in the game.

'And'? What do you mean, 'and'? As if that's not enough? One click kills at any range, excellent sustained DPS. What about that doesn't scream 'OMG AMAZING' to you?

Seriously, if this weapon didn't require a kit with good staggering powers, I would slap it on everything. Literally.

Modifié par lightswitch, 02 février 2013 - 11:35 .