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[Hector Olivero]

Cyonan wrote...

Hector Olivero wrote...

Really? WHO CARES if certain setups are TOO powerfull? You have the option to play it or NOT play it and last I checked this is not PVP TeamDeathmatch COD style were I would see how it would matter having a weapon few have would be cheap playing vs other players.

Also as far as I know I am not in the game I am in the forum and if I said something that tickled your rage button then I guess some of it must have been directed to the kind of player you are...

Obviously Annomander(and plenty others around here) cares, though you're going to have to try a lot harder if you want to make me angry.

That you instantly insult people who do not agree with you does tell me a lot about what kind of player you are =P

You must be a joy to play with.

Yes I am the kind of player that if you dont belong in a gold or platinum match I wont think twice about kicking you... Because I was never carried through the game and I earned my way through it. Why should I carry someone that is TOO lazy to earn their stuff the hard way?

I dont care if you agree with me or not. I care about the game and I hate when people cry about ITS TOO HARD, ITS OP, NERF THIS, NERF THAT WHAT THA FAK! If I can get the gear I have and challenges done like I do anyone else can too... But you always have a select few that will always complain about crap because they are just LAZY!

People that complain about stuff being "OP" on a pve game DO NOT care about the game they only care about themselves which is why they desperatly try to have crap modified to suit them.

If you care about the game you would be complaining about more stability for server... Maybe less loadtime screens and glitches (Like missle glitch) to be fixed or looked into... NOT OMAGAH I HAS A HARRIER I AND CANT GET AN UPGRADE NERF IT ITS TO OP!

I have all the weapons except promotionals at lvl 10 and all have pros and cons I dont think none is OP because they EACH have a different use. This is ALSO true for the characters.

Seriously play the game as is and stop crying so dam much ! Also to make it clear to you I really dont care if you or anyone gets angry or not. I got mines if you are to lazy to get yours then OHWELLS 

[DullahansXMark]

Hector Olivero wrote...

Yes I am the kind of player that if you dont belong in a gold or platinum match I wont think twice about kicking you... Because I was never carried through the game and I earned my way through it. Why should I carry someone that is TOO lazy to earn their stuff the hard way?

I dont care if you agree with me or not. I care about the game and I hate when people cry about ITS TOO HARD, ITS OP, NERF THIS, NERF THAT WHAT THA FAK! If I can get the gear I have and challenges done like I do anyone else can too... But you always have a select few that will always complain about crap because they are just LAZY!

People that complain about stuff being "OP" on a pve game DO NOT care about the game they only care about themselves which is why they desperatly try to have crap modified to suit them.

If you care about the game you would be complaining about more stability for server... Maybe less loadtime screens and glitches (Like missle glitch) to be fixed or looked into... NOT OMAGAH I HAS A HARRIER I AND CANT GET AN UPGRADE NERF IT ITS TO OP!

I have all the weapons except promotionals at lvl 10 and all have pros and cons I dont think none is OP because they EACH have a different use. This is ALSO true for the characters.

Seriously play the game as is and stop crying so dam much ! Also to make it clear to you I really dont care if you or anyone gets angry or not. I got mines if you are to lazy to get yours then OHWELLS 

Hector Olivero wrote...

I care about the game and I hate when people cry about ITS TOO HARD

Hector Olivero wrote...

NERF THIS, NERF THAT

You're just simply too dumb to try and argue with.

[DullahansXMark]

Original Stikman wrote...

DullahansXMark wrote...

I'm pretty sure (metaphorically speaking) it is.....???

It's not...????

Socialism allows individual imbalance with economic status/opportunity for advancement....???

Communism makes "everything" the same....???

Holy crap, you caught what I was doing with the question marks.

Anyway, I explained my point in the same post, so take a look at that.

Modifié par DullahansXMark, 02 février 2013 - 12:16 .

[I_pity_the_fool]

Hector Olivero wrote...

Annomander wrote...

Hector Olivero wrote...

Usually people that complain about the game and beg for nerfs are usually the people that suck and the people that make online play horrible with their failure

Usually the people who care if their game is balanced are better players than the terrible players that I encounter who have BoTB banner.

@Annomander-

Game balance does NOT equal to crying about crap you cant have your way... Also I am one BoTB that will put you to shame in any class, any difficulty, and any time. Let me guess you are one of those noobs to lazy to get BoTB and will probably petition to get it "Nerfed". ROFL!

Something inbalanced in game like a glitch exploit should be fixed but people crying about weapons and classes being OP is just plain retarded.

And you are probably one of those retards that cry about every single little thing

Learn the difference between game balance and people (Like yourself) crying over crap that they are to lazy to work for like weapons and gear or just suck at a certain class and want it to be nerfed so it matches their garbage play style because the normal way is just too "Hard"...

Stop crying and learn how to play... If this game is too hard go play FarmVille or something now STFU! 

Agreed. Annomander, scrubs like you should really learn how to play properly! Look at hector's manifest - he's soloed gold **three times**! AND he's done 60 promotions! YOU WISH you had the skill to compete with that sort of player. Sadly you will never, ever be able to compare yourself with Hector, a truly first-class player at the pinnacle of his game. He's capable of basically anything - any challenge whatsoever! (Except really stupid impossible ones like soloing platinum with a volus).

But anything else, he can kick your pale scottish arse!

[Hector Olivero]

DullahansXMark wrote...

Hector Olivero wrote...

Really? WHO CARES if certain setups are TOO powerfull? You have the option to play it or NOT play it and last I checked this is not PVP TeamDeathmatch COD style were I would see how it would matter having a weapon few have would be cheap playing vs other players.

Also as far as I know I am not in the game I am in the forum and if I said something that tickled your rage button then I guess some of it must have been directed to the kind of player you are...

Sorry that BioWare had a vision for how difficult the game should be and that they wish to preserve that.

Sorry that I want my favorite classes to be able to actually compete with the best classes.

Sorry that I wished the Krysae didn't make using any other gun pointless.

Sorry that some people don't think novelty items should exist in this game.

"Sorry that I want my favorite classes to be able to actually compete with the best classes."

Compete against WHAT? The score board? Sorry but I play every single character and I think they all have the same potential. I still dont know why you say "compete with the best classes" when the objective is to play CO OP... In the end you are NOT competing vs any class but vs the NPC mobs.

So... Yah

[Xaijin]

Pyroninja42 wrote...

N7-Link solo'd platinum in less than 24 minutes with N7 fury. biower pls nuke teh furry

Link also has 10 of everything.

[Werdnuh]

Just a nitpick - Socialism is a socio-economic system that puts group welfare ahead of individual welfare. Hence the common adage of "steal from the rich to feed the poor."

There are advantages and disadvantages to most every first-world economic ideology, and demonizing any of them ('THAT'S SOCIALIST') is ignorant. A capitalistic democracy has enormous advantages, as does a socialistic democracy. (USA vs. most of the EU.)

Not that I disagree with the point you are making, for the most part. Just felt like I had to say something because I really hate the vilification of "socialism" in the USA, because it is completely unwarranted.

[DullahansXMark]

Hector Olivero wrote...

DullahansXMark wrote...

Hector Olivero wrote...

Really? WHO CARES if certain setups are TOO powerfull? You have the option to play it or NOT play it and last I checked this is not PVP TeamDeathmatch COD style were I would see how it would matter having a weapon few have would be cheap playing vs other players.

Also as far as I know I am not in the game I am in the forum and if I said something that tickled your rage button then I guess some of it must have been directed to the kind of player you are...

Sorry that BioWare had a vision for how difficult the game should be and that they wish to preserve that.

Sorry that I want my favorite classes to be able to actually compete with the best classes.

Sorry that I wished the Krysae didn't make using any other gun pointless.

Sorry that some people don't think novelty items should exist in this game.

"Sorry that I want my favorite classes to be able to actually compete with the best classes."

Compete against WHAT? The score board? Sorry but I play every single character and I think they all have the same potential. I still dont know why you say "compete with the best classes" when the objective is to play CO OP... In the end you are NOT competing vs any class but vs the NPC mobs.

So... Yah

"Compete against WHAT?"

Other classes. I literally just stated that in the exact line you quoted.

Why should I use a Turian Havoc? Or a Batarian Slasher? Or the N7 Fury? The Turian Ghost does so much more damage than them, and he can take pretty much anything to the face and laugh. There's no reason to play anything else besides MAYBE a Geth Infiltrator or a Krogan Battlemaster (and that's a big maybe).

But go on, continue thinking that you're winning this debate with strawman arguments.

[Original Twigman]

DullahansXMark wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

DullahansXMark wrote...

I'm pretty sure (metaphorically speaking) it is.....???

It's not...????

Socialism allows individual imbalance with economic status/opportunity for advancement....???

Communism makes "everything" the same....???

Holy crap, you caught what I was doing with the question marks.

Anyway, I explained my point in the same post, so take a look at that.

 thats one, old, version of socialism.... but whatever

[DullahansXMark]

Werdnuh wrote...

Just a nitpick - Socialism is a socio-economic system that puts group welfare ahead of individual welfare. Hence the common adage of "steal from the rich to feed the poor."

There are advantages and disadvantages to most every first-world economic ideology, and demonizing any of them ('THAT'S SOCIALIST') is ignorant. A capitalistic democracy has enormous advantages, as does a socialistic democracy. (USA vs. most of the EU.)

Not that I disagree with the point you are making, for the most part. Just felt like I had to say something because I really hate the vilification of "socialism" in the USA, because it is completely unwarranted.

I guess you have a point. I'm of the mind that everyone should more or less carve their own paths and thrive from their own victories and successes (aka capitalism), but I also realize that in the current circumstances that's basically impossible.

We should probably stay on-topic, however. Thanks, though.

[DullahansXMark]

Original Stikman wrote...

DullahansXMark wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

DullahansXMark wrote...

I'm pretty sure (metaphorically speaking) it is.....???

It's not...????

Socialism allows individual imbalance with economic status/opportunity for advancement....???

Communism makes "everything" the same....???

Holy crap, you caught what I was doing with the question marks.

Anyway, I explained my point in the same post, so take a look at that.

 thats one, old, version of socialism.... but whatever

My brain's kinda at a first-degree fry for the day, so it gets hard to remember the specific names of some things 

I hope I made my point, though.

[Hector Olivero]

I_pity_the_fool wrote...

Hector Olivero wrote...

Annomander wrote...

Hector Olivero wrote...

Usually people that complain about the game and beg for nerfs are usually the people that suck and the people that make online play horrible with their failure

Usually the people who care if their game is balanced are better players than the terrible players that I encounter who have BoTB banner.

@Annomander-

Game balance does NOT equal to crying about crap you cant have your way... Also I am one BoTB that will put you to shame in any class, any difficulty, and any time. Let me guess you are one of those noobs to lazy to get BoTB and will probably petition to get it "Nerfed". ROFL!

Something inbalanced in game like a glitch exploit should be fixed but people crying about weapons and classes being OP is just plain retarded.

And you are probably one of those retards that cry about every single little thing

Learn the difference between game balance and people (Like yourself) crying over crap that they are to lazy to work for like weapons and gear or just suck at a certain class and want it to be nerfed so it matches their garbage play style because the normal way is just too "Hard"...

Stop crying and learn how to play... If this game is too hard go play FarmVille or something now STFU!

Agreed. Annomander, scrubs like you should really learn how to play properly! Look at hector's manifest - he's soloed gold **three times**! AND he's done 60 promotions! YOU WISH you had the skill to compete with that sort of player. Sadly you will never, ever be able to compare yourself with Hector, a truly first-class player at the pinnacle of his game. He's capable of basically anything - any challenge whatsoever! (Except really stupid impossible ones like soloing platinum with a volus).

But anything else, he can kick your pale scottish arse!

Your sarcasm was kinda weak especially since no one was arguing about the "Manifest" I simply mentioned it because the guy did. Clearly has something against people that compleate the challenges or people with BoTB.

I show mine because I have nothing to hide and I am proud of what I have done in game. And I have getten everything that people complain that is "TO HARD" like the weapons and I play every class including the ones that people complain that are "TOO OP" or "BUFF PLOX". I enjoy the game as is appart from the technical Issues and glitches ofc. Now enough about my "Manifest" lets have a look @ yours I want to ROFL a bit!

Modifié par Hector Olivero, 02 février 2013 - 12:30 .

[Original Twigman]

DullahansXMark wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

DullahansXMark wrote...

Original Stikman wrote...

DullahansXMark wrote...

I'm pretty sure (metaphorically speaking) it is.....???

It's not...????

Socialism allows individual imbalance with economic status/opportunity for advancement....???

Communism makes "everything" the same....???

Holy crap, you caught what I was doing with the question marks.

Anyway, I explained my point in the same post, so take a look at that.

 thats one, old, version of socialism.... but whatever

My brain's kinda at a first-degree fry for the day, so it gets hard to remember the specific names of some things 

I hope I made my point, though.

I guess... I didn't know you were trying to make a point but just trying to define something. Did your definition make sense for a version of socialism in its early stages of development? yes.

[DullahansXMark]

Original Stikman wrote...

DullahansXMark wrote...
My brain's kinda at a first-degree fry for the day, so it gets hard to remember the specific names of some things 

I hope I made my point, though.

I guess... I didn't know you were trying to make a point but just trying to define something. Did your definition make sense for a version of socialism in its early stages of development? yes.

Sorta just trying to point out why penalizing player skill would be a bad idea by attacking a legitimate form of economics... or... crap, I don't even know what word I'm looking for.

[Cyonan]

Hector Olivero wrote...
Yes I am the kind of player that if you dont belong in a gold or platinum match I wont think twice about kicking you... Because I was never carried through the game and I earned my way through it. Why should I carry someone that is TOO lazy to earn their stuff the hard way?

I dont care if you agree with me or not. I care about the game and I hate when people cry about ITS TOO HARD, ITS OP, NERF THIS, NERF THAT WHAT THA FAK! If I can get the gear I have and challenges done like I do anyone else can too... But you always have a select few that will always complain about crap because they are just LAZY!

People that complain about stuff being "OP" on a pve game DO NOT care about the game they only care about themselves which is why they desperatly try to have crap modified to suit them.

If you care about the game you would be complaining about more stability for server... Maybe less loadtime screens and glitches (Like missle glitch) to be fixed or looked into... NOT OMAGAH I HAS A HARRIER I AND CANT GET AN UPGRADE NERF IT ITS TO OP!

I have all the weapons except promotionals at lvl 10 and all have pros and cons I dont think none is OP because they EACH have a different use. This is ALSO true for the characters.

Seriously play the game as is and stop crying so dam much ! Also to make it clear to you I really dont care if you or anyone gets angry or not. I got mines if you are to lazy to get yours then OHWELLS

You're also the kind of player who insults other people because they don't agree with your opinion on something. I mean, how dare I not think exactly like you. I must be some kind of scrub if I don't.

I'm clearly just upset that I can't get an upgrade to my Harrier X. It's been months and I've not seen a card for it! In fact now that you mention it, the only UR cards I see anymore are the Typhoon and CSMG. What the hell, RNG?

You also seem a tad angry. You should try not doing that.

[Kalas747]

Werdnuh wrote...

Just a nitpick - Socialism is a socio-economic system that puts group welfare ahead of individual welfare. Hence the common adage of "steal from the rich to feed the poor."

There are advantages and disadvantages to most every first-world economic ideology, and demonizing any of them ('THAT'S SOCIALIST') is ignorant. A capitalistic democracy has enormous advantages, as does a socialistic democracy. (USA vs. most of the EU.)

Not that I disagree with the point you are making, for the most part. Just felt like I had to say something because I really hate the vilification of "socialism" in the USA, because it is completely unwarranted.

Donal Trump would disagree with you, you socialist european. ...lol.

[Muhkida]

blaaaaaaaaaarg wrote...

Annomander wrote...

megabeast37215 wrote...

Do you see alot of Reegars in PUGs... because I VERY rarely see them. Most PUGs are too scared to get close enough to use it IMO.

I see about half as many lolreegars as I do TGI w/ harriers. If there is a TGI in 4/5 public games, there's a reegar in 2/5. I have seen 2 claymores since christmas, wielded by pugs (one on a vanguard, one on a SI) but I have seen countless reegars.

Personally, I see very few Reegars. What's interesting here is that both megabeast and I are on X-Box, while you're on PC, Annomander. Do you think it's a platform thing, like how console players are (or were) more likely to missile glitch?

I'm on the PC, and I barely see anyone use the Reegar either.  It's more like a 1/20 ratio for me.

Still, that doesn't mean the gun isn't OP.

[Hector Olivero]

DullahansXMark wrote...

Hector Olivero wrote...

DullahansXMark wrote...

Hector Olivero wrote...

Really? WHO CARES if certain setups are TOO powerfull? You have the option to play it or NOT play it and last I checked this is not PVP TeamDeathmatch COD style were I would see how it would matter having a weapon few have would be cheap playing vs other players.

Also as far as I know I am not in the game I am in the forum and if I said something that tickled your rage button then I guess some of it must have been directed to the kind of player you are...

Sorry that BioWare had a vision for how difficult the game should be and that they wish to preserve that.

Sorry that I want my favorite classes to be able to actually compete with the best classes.

Sorry that I wished the Krysae didn't make using any other gun pointless.

Sorry that some people don't think novelty items should exist in this game.

"Sorry that I want my favorite classes to be able to actually compete with the best classes."

Compete against WHAT? The score board? Sorry but I play every single character and I think they all have the same potential. I still dont know why you say "compete with the best classes" when the objective is to play CO OP... In the end you are NOT competing vs any class but vs the NPC mobs.

So... Yah

"Compete against WHAT?"

Other classes. I literally just stated that in the exact line you quoted.

Why should I use a Turian Havoc? Or a Batarian Slasher? Or the N7 Fury? The Turian Ghost does so much more damage than them, and he can take pretty much anything to the face and laugh. There's no reason to play anything else besides MAYBE a Geth Infiltrator or a Krogan Battlemaster (and that's a big maybe).

But go on, continue thinking that you're winning this debate with strawman arguments.

Here... this has a simple answer... Why should you play those other classes? BECAUSE THEY ARE FUN! Who cares if one can do more damage than the other? Do it because you enjoy it and like playing with it.

So if you play with a Havoc and get out damaged by a Ghost WHO cares? In the end everyone gets the same. This is not COD where Kill to Death ratio matters.

Here is some Dr. Phil type therapy for you... I want you to repeat:
I play the Turian Havoc, Batarian Slasher, and N7 Fury because they are FUN!

[Hector Olivero]

Cyonan wrote...

Hector Olivero wrote...
Yes I am the kind of player that if you dont belong in a gold or platinum match I wont think twice about kicking you... Because I was never carried through the game and I earned my way through it. Why should I carry someone that is TOO lazy to earn their stuff the hard way?

I dont care if you agree with me or not. I care about the game and I hate when people cry about ITS TOO HARD, ITS OP, NERF THIS, NERF THAT WHAT THA FAK! If I can get the gear I have and challenges done like I do anyone else can too... But you always have a select few that will always complain about crap because they are just LAZY!

People that complain about stuff being "OP" on a pve game DO NOT care about the game they only care about themselves which is why they desperatly try to have crap modified to suit them.

If you care about the game you would be complaining about more stability for server... Maybe less loadtime screens and glitches (Like missle glitch) to be fixed or looked into... NOT OMAGAH I HAS A HARRIER I AND CANT GET AN UPGRADE NERF IT ITS TO OP!

I have all the weapons except promotionals at lvl 10 and all have pros and cons I dont think none is OP because they EACH have a different use. This is ALSO true for the characters.

Seriously play the game as is and stop crying so dam much ! Also to make it clear to you I really dont care if you or anyone gets angry or not. I got mines if you are to lazy to get yours then OHWELLS

You're also the kind of player who insults other people because they don't agree with your opinion on something. I mean, how dare I not think exactly like you. I must be some kind of scrub if I don't.

I'm clearly just upset that I can't get an upgrade to my Harrier X. It's been months and I've not seen a card for it! In fact now that you mention it, the only UR cards I see anymore are the Typhoon and CSMG. What the hell, RNG?

You also seem a tad angry. You should try not doing that.

Why should I be angry? LOL I have everything I want in the game .

[I_pity_the_fool]

Hector Olivero wrote...

I_pity_the_fool wrote...

Hector Olivero wrote...

Annomander wrote...

Hector Olivero wrote...

Usually people that complain about the game and beg for nerfs are usually the people that suck and the people that make online play horrible with their failure

Usually the people who care if their game is balanced are better players than the terrible players that I encounter who have BoTB banner.

@Annomander-

Game balance does NOT equal to crying about crap you cant have your way... Also I am one BoTB that will put you to shame in any class, any difficulty, and any time. Let me guess you are one of those noobs to lazy to get BoTB and will probably petition to get it "Nerfed". ROFL!

Something inbalanced in game like a glitch exploit should be fixed but people crying about weapons and classes being OP is just plain retarded.

And you are probably one of those retards that cry about every single little thing

Learn the difference between game balance and people (Like yourself) crying over crap that they are to lazy to work for like weapons and gear or just suck at a certain class and want it to be nerfed so it matches their garbage play style because the normal way is just too "Hard"...

Stop crying and learn how to play... If this game is too hard go play FarmVille or something now STFU!

Agreed. Annomander, scrubs like you should really learn how to play properly! Look at hector's manifest - he's soloed gold **three times**! AND he's done 60 promotions! YOU WISH you had the skill to compete with that sort of player. Sadly you will never, ever be able to compare yourself with Hector, a truly first-class player at the pinnacle of his game. He's capable of basically anything - any challenge whatsoever! (Except really stupid impossible ones like soloing platinum with a volus).

But anything else, he can kick your pale scottish arse!

Your sarcasm was kinda weak especially since no one was arguing about the "Manifest" I simply mentioned it because the guy did. Clearly has something against people that compleate the challenges or people with BoTB.

I show mine because I have nothing to hide and I am proud of what I have done in game. And I have getten everything that people complain that is "TO HARD" like the weapons and I play every class including the ones that people complain that are "TOO OP" or "BUFF PLOX". I enjoy the game as is appart from the technical Issues and glitches ofc.

Do you ever think that maybe people want weapons or powers buffed or nerfed for some reason other than "it makes grinding for smg mastery tedious" or "I was outscored and it hurt my feelings". Perhaps they feel that each kit and each weapon (after allowing for ultra-rare/gold status etc) should not massively change the difficulty level you experience playing the game? That way, bioware could make gold moderately challenging for experienced and skilled players and wouldn't have a headache adjusting for weak kits and overpowered guns. Perhaps that the game would be longer lived and more interesting if, say, submission net had interesting and powerful applications, or if we didn't always choose the same 3 evolutions for warp?

Now enough about my "Manifest" lets have a look @ yours I want to ROFL a bit!

As you wish.

[nanotm]

damn all you socialists


dont you know you should just start ayet another hippy comune to "drop off the grid" and worship yet another greedy "messiah" type person who enjoys kiddy fiddling in the name of faith.......


it socialism and capitalism wont ever work together because there oposite ends of the scale, that and everyone in capitalist society tries ot avoid taxes so theres nothing to provide the socilaism with other than borrowing money from other capitalists......

as far as the game goes however its fair to say some people will cry loud n often until there personal view of "balance" is implimented

as to weather weapons need nerfing tbh i cant think of a single one that "needs a nerf" some could do with being made better but lets be honest most of htem are about right given they all have detractors and plus sides.

even the crappy ar's have a reason to be used (well apart from the incisor cos its just rather pointless)

[I_pity_the_fool]

as to weather weapons need nerfing tbh i cant think of a single one that "needs a nerf" some could do with being made better but lets be honest most of htem are about right given they all have detractors and plus sides.

I more or less agree with this.

However, the weapons got to this happy state through a long hard process of nerfing and buffing. I'm sure you're aware of it. Others may not be.

[Cyonan]

Hector Olivero wrote...
Why should I be angry? LOL I have everything I want in the game .

That's probably not something I would know, I just said you seem angry =P

Your arguments are weak anyway. I could turn around and claim that the only reason you don't want the Harrier nerfed is because you need it in order to be good and can't play with the weaker guns.

Is it a completely baseless claim that is most likely not true and ignores everything you've said thus far? Yep, but so was yours so we're even =P

[DullahansXMark]

Hector Olivero wrote...

DullahansXMark wrote...

"Compete against WHAT?"

Other classes. I literally just stated that in the exact line you quoted.

Why should I use a Turian Havoc? Or a Batarian Slasher? Or the N7 Fury? The Turian Ghost does so much more damage than them, and he can take pretty much anything to the face and laugh. There's no reason to play anything else besides MAYBE a Geth Infiltrator or a Krogan Battlemaster (and that's a big maybe).

But go on, continue thinking that you're winning this debate with strawman arguments.

Here... this has a simple answer... Why should you play those other classes? BECAUSE THEY ARE FUN! Who cares if one can do more damage than the other? Do it because you enjoy it and like playing with it.

So if you play with a Havoc and get out damaged by a Ghost WHO cares? In the end everyone gets the same. This is not COD where Kill to Death ratio matters.

Here is some Dr. Phil type therapy for you... I want you to repeat:
I play the Turian Havoc, Batarian Slasher, and N7 Fury because they are FUN!

I find Platinum FUN
I find the Turian Havoc FUN
I do NOT find the Turian Havoc combined with Platinum FUN

It's so much easier to do it with a Ghost it's not even funny. The Havoc requires some rather expert handling (which I have in Gold, but I do NOT have that in Platinum) to really even be usable, but even then it's still gonna be way harder than with the Ghost. Translation: I cannot hope to do anything in Platinum with a pretty good class (Havoc). I can skunk Platinum with that one kit with two lolwin buttons (Ghost).

Granted, I do think the Havoc could use some buffing, but it's ridiculous that BioWare could let something outclass him that severely. Some kits need buffing, but some need to be brought down a notch. The Ghost makes Platinum even easier than the Geth Infiltrator did. And it's not supposed to be that easy.

ADDED: I'm not a devout nerfer freak, though. There are far more things in need of buffing than nerfing. The Geth Infiltrator requires some crazy skill to put that damage out, so he's fine. The Krogan Battlemaster can pretty much take anything to the face, but can't do nearly as much damage as the Geth Infiltrator. The Turian Ghost does marginally less (in the case of ARs, MORE) damage than the Geth Infiltrator and more or less has the Krogan Battlemaster's survivability rolled into one, combined with an exaggerated dodge move that more or less skunks everything else. And you're saying this is balanced?

ADDED AGAIN: And that thing about playing them for fun? That's stupid. Why can't I be practical, too? That's called a novelty item. Fun, but meaningless. (Like video games, but let's stay in one layer of existence at a time, please)

Modifié par DullahansXMark, 02 février 2013 - 12:56 .

[Dream-Maker]

Being able to solo platinum or not with whatever weapon or kit isn't a good benchmark to judge whether a weapon or a kit is OP or not. Especially with this cheesy firebase giant funnelling tactic around that 95% of people use in order to solo platinum.

Just let the people have their opinions on weapons and powers, nobody other than bioware ultimately judges what is OP and what needs to be buffed. IMO the game looks pretty balanced now though and I think Bioware shares that view considering how few balance changes have been taking place in the very last months, so no need to freak out when 2 people ask for a nerf seriously...

Modifié par Dream-Maker, 02 février 2013 - 01:03 .