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[Fanghorne]

I have brokered the peace between the geth and quarians on multiple playthroughs.,

I have always been paragon.

Can I also brokwe the peace as full renegade if all the other conditions are met and dont change?

Thanks,

Doc

[Samtheman63]

yes you can

[Belisarius25]

Are you asking if you can choose the renegade/intimidate option in the final conversation? The answer is yes, the dialogue just changes (and may be better, depending on how you view the situation). Even on my paragon Shepards I'm coming around to considering that my 'canon' response.

Modifié par Belisarius25, 01 février 2013 - 06:56 .

[Fanghorne]

No its not the renegade option per say but more the original rep bars. I am usually at 5 paragon bars by the time I get to this encounter.

If that bar is 5 deep in the red......then can I still broker a peace. Nothing else has changes...Tali not exiled, saved koris bla bla.

Doc

[Samtheman63]

yes

[DoodlyDangus]

Yes, peace is still very possible.

[Linkforlife]

I kind of like the speech Shepard gives as full Renegade to the admirals, even though I mostly play as a Paragon.

[CynicalShep]

Yes. In fact, the paragon speech didn't make much sense in that context. I mean the idiot is bullheadedly driving his people to extinction. Sometimes abuse of power has to be met with abuse of power

[Belisarius25]

I wouldn't even call the renegade speech an abuse of power, it's (admittedly angrily) calling someone out for doing something stupid.

The paragon speech comes across more like "Oh Admiral Gerrel, please play nice with the Geth. You can be friends with them. Pretty please", more of a speech someone gives in a movie that ends with one person starting to do a slow-clap and ending with everyone applauding.

[Fanghorne]

Thats why I want to do a full run of renegade. In some ways I'm sick of being "good" all the time. When jack slaps Shep in the face at Grissom - I would love if there had been an option of kicking her in the stomach with a "dont ever touch me again."

I need a little mean on the next playthrough.

Doc

[CynicalShep]

Belisarius25 wrote...

I wouldn't even call the renegade speech an abuse of power, it's (admittedly angrily) calling someone out for doing something stupid.

The paragon speech comes across more like "Oh Admiral Gerrel, please play nice with the Geth. You can be friends with them. Pretty please", more of a speech someone gives in a movie that ends with one person starting to do a slow-clap and ending with everyone applauding.

Well, you do abuse your position. You tell the admiral that Geth will improve soon and you'll let them exterminate the quarians because "you're done saving them". I don't remember the exact lines but you pretty much tell them that you have a superior army and you'll let them butcher the entire Quarian race if he doesn't wise up

[Belisarius25]

Maybe I'm remembering the speech wrong, then (I'm at work so I can't youtube it)...I remembered it more being "I'm done cleaning up after you, what you're doing is stupid and here's why. If you keep firing, it's on your head". Since it's done with the intent of getting Gerrel/the Quarians to stand down, I see that more as "tough love", but an appropriate way to emphasize the importance of the decision (especially since you only give that speech with the intention of getting a ceasefire, not to backstab either side or anything).

Which, I guess isn't what the Quarians would expect from someone ostensibly sent to help them, but they do need some brutal honesty at that moment, and Shepard *is* giving them good advice.

Modifié par Belisarius25, 01 février 2013 - 08:24 .

[Wayning_Star]

I did, but it was a balance of both, don't know if this applies. Had to be mean to get vested parties motivated..

[CynicalShep]

Belisarius25 wrote...

Maybe I'm remembering the speech wrong, then (I'm at work so I can't youtube it)...I remembered it more being "I'm done cleaning up after you, what you're doing is stupid and here's why. If you keep firing, it's on your head". Since it's done with the intent of getting Gerrel/the Quarians to stand down, I see that more as "tough love", but an appropriate way to emphasize the importance of the decision (especially since you only give that speech with the intention of getting a ceasefire, not to backstab either side or anything).

Which, I guess isn't what the Quarians would expect from someone ostensibly sent to help them, but they do need some brutal honesty at that moment, and Shepard *is* giving them good advice.

Yee, it was something like that. Bottom line is - you have the power to stop Legion but you don't want to so you face him with two options: make peace or die. It's not abuse of power per se but it comes pretty close to it.