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[wright1978]

cyrexwingblade wrote...

The 'does the ending have to be great for a story to be great' thesis is pretty much constantly debated. I'm decidedly on one side, since if the ending sucks, even if the journey was great, I tend to get really angry, and lose desire to repeat the journey. I need both pieces to be satisfying for the whole to work for me. If one is great and one is awful, I'm just left aggravated.

Any good story requires both.

[Landon7001]

everytime i want to give me 3 its props for the things it did right and what i liked, the ending....

[Reorte]

cyrexwingblade wrote...

The 'does the ending have to be great for a story to be great' thesis is pretty much constantly debated. I'm decidedly on one side, since if the ending sucks, even if the journey was great, I tend to get really angry, and lose desire to repeat the journey. I need both pieces to be satisfying for the whole to work for me. If one is great and one is awful, I'm just left aggravated.

If the journey is great you can get away with a mediocre, forgettable destination (although a great destination obviously makes it all better still).

Landon7001 wrote...

everytime i want to give me 3 its props for the things it did right and what i liked, the ending....

Tell me about it. There were some damned good moments in there, it's just so hard to appreciate them because of what happened.

Modifié par Reorte, 01 février 2013 - 09:40 .

[Shaleist]

Mr.Antihero wrote...

 "People forget it's not the ending that matters, it's the journey that brought you to the end that counts. The Mass Effect trilogy is one of the best sagas of all time."

"The reason why Mass Effect was the best trilogy was because after playing Mass Effect 1 and 2 your heart was so attached to the game, but to have such an emotional ending with the best soundtracks every made the ending very dramatic. The series felt like it was ripped from your heart, to have nothing left to continue."

I think ME3 was the least enjoyable of the 3 'journeys' though.  Do I get a cookie?

[CronoDragoon]

shodiswe wrote...

I liked ME3, but I wish the end game had been slightly more worthy of the overall gaming experience.

You get that reasonable stance out of here. It doesn't belong on the internet.

[cmessaz]

oh brother wrote...

cmessaz wrote...

Dr_Extrem wrote...

would you take a journey that ends in a hospital, because you catched a food poisoning and you know it beforehand?

LOL, this is actually an excellent point. Guess it depends on just how good the food that leads to the poisoning is, and how severe the aftermath was.

No, ME3 did not put you in hospital. At most you disliked the ending, and moved onto something else.

Your right, I disliked the ending, but the stuff that came before was good enough to keep me playing. I think much like DA2, the problem is that people didn't like the ending, or game in the case of DA2, and did NOT move on to something else lol. They kept posting. You won't see me posting angry rants at the Bioware devs.

[Brhino]

Abraham_uk wrote...


A video game doesn't need to have a good ending to be worth while. Though it helps.

I agree, actually.  A good video game with a lackluster ending is still a good video game.  I've played several like that. 

Here would be a lackluster ending for ME3:

You arrive at earth, armed with the knowledge that the citadel  powers the crucible.  Your fleets protect the crucible while it plugs into the citadel, and you on foot must defend the citadel against waves of invading reapers and the illusive man does something tricky.  But you win, the crucible activates, the reapers all die, and everyone is happy.

Lackluster.  And yet, if that were the ending, the overall satisfaction of the fan base would be much, much higher.  Because Mass Effect does not have a good ending, or even a mediocre ending.  It has a deeply, deeply terrible ending, so bad that for many people it poisons their entire enjoyment of the game.  It takes everything they like about the mass effect franchise and takes a big steaming dump on it.  That's why people judge the entire game because of the ending.  It's that terrible.

[GreyLycanTrope]

You can say the ending didn't matter but journey is what does all you like but the fact remains that it still did. 10 minutes made the trilogy unplayable for me, the ending can matter if it ruins the journey.

[AresKeith]

You can also say the destination is part of the journey

[futurepixels]

AresKeith wrote...

You can also say the destination is part of the journey

Oh ****, /thread.

[Zaalbar]

The destination is just as important as the journey itself.
Mass Effect 3 has a good journey but unfortunately it derailed into a train wreck before it ever reached its potential destination making it an experience I try to forget.

[The Night Mammoth]

Of course people judge Mass Effect 3 on its ending, everything they've been doing for the last thirty hours has been leading up to it, and it was lackluster.

The genophage, Rannoch, all these events occur because Shepard is gathering forces to fight the Reapers, so you can build the Crucible, and eventually use it at some point in time.

Surprise, when that point in time comes about, there's an expectation to see that all those things people were doing actually matter in some form, because, you know, that was repeatedly emphasized throughout the experience.

[Yaos]

ME3 is the ending of the a trilogy. So, yeah, if anything's important, it's working on a decent ending for the series.

[KiwiQuiche]

Ticonderoga117 wrote...

Mr.Antihero wrote...

 "People forget it's not the ending that matters, it's the journey that brought you to the end that counts. The Mass Effect trilogy is one of the best sagas of all time."

"The reason why Mass Effect was the best trilogy was because after playing Mass Effect 1 and 2 your heart was so attached to the game, but to have such an emotional ending with the best soundtracks every made the ending very dramatic. The series felt like it was ripped from your heart, to have nothing left to continue."

Well the Titanic and Hindenburg had great journies, but if you crash and burn in the end, it's still going to suck.

True.

Also, I found a lot of the rest of ME3 was crap, like the intro (holy crap that is cringe worthy) Rannoch, Thessia, the Cerberus Coup and Priority Earth was fairly lacklaster and craptastic.

So no, my beef isn't only with the ending. It's with a lot of the rest of the game.

[Eterna]

Mass Effect 3 didn;t have Blue babies, therefore it is the worst thing Bioware has ever done. How dare they choose to end their series on a somber note. It feels like I've been raped.

[frostajulie]

wright1978 wrote...

Both Journey and destination matter. Sadly ME3's destination was a trainwreck.

[The Night Mammoth]

Eterna5 wrote...

Mass Effect 3 didn;t have Blue babies, therefore it is the worst thing Bioware has ever done. How dare they choose to end their series on a somber note. It feels like I've been raped.

Ha, somber. 

[MegaSovereign]

Eterna5 wrote...

Mass Effect 3 didn;t have Blue babies, therefore it is the worst thing Bioware has ever done. How dare they choose to end their series on a somber note. It feels like I've been raped.

I wouldn't joke about rape.

[KiwiQuiche]

MegaSovereign wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Mass Effect 3 didn;t have Blue babies, therefore it is the worst thing Bioware has ever done. How dare they choose to end their series on a somber note. It feels like I've been raped.

I wouldn't joke about rape.

[lynch108]

Who is the OP quoting? At any rate, this is pretty much the opposite of what is true.

[Dubozz]

Ending marked Mass effect and bioware. Not in a good way. Everytime i read "bioware", "mass effect" or "ending" i feel disappointment.

[Ryoten]

Whether you like it or not. ME3 will always be jaded by the ending. You will never change that.

[Eterna]

MegaSovereign wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Mass Effect 3 didn;t have Blue babies, therefore it is the worst thing Bioware has ever done. How dare they choose to end their series on a somber note. It feels like I've been raped.

I wouldn't joke about rape.

We already compare Synthesis to rape, so why the hell not?

[Ryoten]

Also i would like to add that the end reflects the journey. Add that to your list of sayings.

[KiwiQuiche]

Eterna5 wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Mass Effect 3 didn;t have Blue babies, therefore it is the worst thing Bioware has ever done. How dare they choose to end their series on a somber note. It feels like I've been raped.

I wouldn't joke about rape.

We already compare Synthesis to rape, so why the hell not?

Who the heck is doing something so stupid?