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[PixieNZ]

I just got the shadow and the demolisher in a PSP which one should I use first and how?

[Dunvi]

Demolisher. She's the better melee character, after all.

Modifié par Dunvi, 01 février 2013 - 10:12 .

[Homey C-Dawg]

Do you like melee or do you like grenades?

[Yukari Yakumo]

Demolisher is a grenade-chucking recking ball, Shadow is the chill on your neck before you realize you can't feel below it anymore.

How to play:
Demolisher:
Max the Pylon with the extra grenade evo
Arc Grenades are great
can either ignore Homing Grenade or give it a fire evo for f.e.'s

Shadow:
can either make an Electric Slash spammer or Shadow Strike meleeing boss killer.
fyi she can't SS Atlas' or Scions from a glitch in patch 4

Modifié par Yukari Yakumo, 01 février 2013 - 09:56 .

[Qui-Gon Glenn]

Balance your Shadow, her powers are situational. Most important thing playing the Shadow: never forget you are carrying a gun and have Tactical Cloak -- you do not always have to use her powers or melee to inflict major damage.

Demo - she's a very versatile character, I max her power and take 3 ranks fitness, many people skip Nobody's Home-ing grenades and max her fitness and Omni-Blade melee with her to surprising success. I have also seen strange 66606 builds with her that are still quite capable or wrecking the enemy. Plan on being mobile and do not overly rely on your pylon for restocking grenades.

[ABjerre]

I just got an apple and an orange in a fruit basket. Which should i eat first?

[mackfactor]

Just pick one and go! What do you need our opinions for? Then use the other.

[BioJaegar]

ABjerre wrote...

I just got an apple and an orange in a fruit basket. Which should i eat first?

the pineapple.

shadow is more of a quiet, squishy instant killer, where as the Demolisher is a much more devastating crowdcontrol option. Pop down a pylon and toss grenades to your hearts content. Get infinite kills.

both do very well kill and score wise, they just have very different approaches.

[Simba501]

I think the Demolisher is the better character.  Has potential to be very powerful.  

Dunvi wrote...

Demolisher. She's the better melee character, after all.

Lol....

[Gh0strang3r]

N7 Shadow. Max electric strike and spam through walls. Use about 3 in shadow strike to be more maneuverable. Max infiltrate with extended time IMO and use one skill while cloaked.

Demolisher can be fun, but I love infiltrators.

[.458]

Spec your demolisher pylon for extra grenades. Use grenade capacity gear. If you are careful of where you put your pylon, you can ignore weight of everything on a demolisher...once the pylon is down it is the only power that weight has an effect on. I carry either a harrier with high velocity barrel, or a javelin with high velocity barrel, plus a talon (sometimes with high velocity barrel).

[OldeGrim]

Demolisher is very good.

I run it without any fitness. Max arc grenades for damage, pulse, and bonus vs shields.

homing grenades max for the DOT and damage against armor

supply pylon max for grenade distribution etc.

Run with grenade capacity gear. I have 11 grenade with the plus 5 grenade capacity. I use a harrier with incendiary ammo just for extra destruction.

You'll have to be careful to take cover and what not but the amount of damage you can dole out with 11 grenades and a harrier is just insane. In holy **** situations you can throw all of your grenades, use a thermal clip and repeat.

Great support class too. Once you get good with lobbing the grenades you can throw them across the map to help out some team mates from far.

Using just a harrier keeps your CD respectable for when you need to redeploy your pylon due to objective waves or just want an extra 2 grenades very quickly.

Some of my highest scoring games are with a demolisher.

Modifié par OldeGrim, 01 février 2013 - 10:21 .

[Dunvi]

... I was being facetious, but then I ran some numbers in narida, and I accidentaly just came to the conclusion that the demolisher is actually a better melee character than the shadow.

dafuq!?!??

So go demolisher. :happy:

Modifié par Dunvi, 01 février 2013 - 10:26 .

[PixieNZ]

I started with the Demolisher and it feels a lot more soldiery then any of the soldier classes ie. all grenades, no space magic, massive CC and no need for cooldown.

[najzere]

I say Shadow, but she's probably my second most used character and I've never even specced my Demolisher let alone used her.

Here's how I do the Shadow: narida build

[Sailears]

Dunvi wrote...

Demolisher. She's the better melee character, after all.

Here's what I play. (obviosuly not crusader X...)
Crusader, just because... I need to find an excuse to use it. Demolisher heavy melee is extremely good - with all the grenades there's no excuse not to spec 6 into max melee.


Anyway compared to the shadow, I think the demolisher is the more straightforward character - just guns and grenades. The shadow requires a lot more situational awareness, fast reflexes (for dodging after SSing a scion for instance), and target prioritising.
Demolisher is just throw grenades, punch some things and shoot.

Modifié par Curunen, 01 février 2013 - 10:32 .

[Arctican]

Dunvi wrote...

... I was being facetious, but then I ran some numbers in narida, and I accidentaly just came to the conclusion that the demolisher is actually a better melee character than the shadow.

dafuq!?!??

So go demolisher. :happy:

Demolisher is definitely a more lulzy melee character than the Shadow.

But Shadow has...dat armor damage. Decapitating 3 Gold Dragoons at once? Yes plz.

[Homey C-Dawg]

Don't believe anyone who tells you that you can't shadow strike possessed Scions. It's a load of rubbish.

[Simba501]

Dunvi wrote...

... I was being facetious, but then I ran some numbers in narida, and I accidentaly just came to the conclusion that the demolisher is actually a better melee character than the shadow.

dafuq!?!??

So go demolisher. :happy:

Dafuq?!....just ran the numbers too....

Shadow needs buffing then, because she's too damn flimsy not to be the best melee character.  She should be up there with the Krogan.

[4ut0b4hn5child27]

both of them are good, but if you love kill enemy by decapitating or torture them 'personally' or orientating in CQC,  Use Shadow

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Modifié par 4ut0b4hn5child27, 01 février 2013 - 10:36 .

[Simba501]

najzere wrote...

I say Shadow, but she's probably my second most used character and I've never even specced my Demolisher let alone used her.

Here's how I do the Shadow: narida build

Damn, I gotta get some melee weapon attachments.

[Dunvi]

Arctican wrote...

Dunvi wrote...

... I was being facetious, but then I ran some numbers in narida, and I accidentaly just came to the conclusion that the demolisher is actually a better melee character than the shadow.

dafuq!?!??

So go demolisher. :happy:

Demolisher is definitely a more lulzy melee character than the Shadow.

But Shadow has...dat armor damage. Decapitating 3 Gold Dragoons at once? Yes plz.

Seriously. Run the numbers. Demolisher has multipliers to all 3 defences.

[Arctican]

Simba501 wrote...

Dunvi wrote...

... I was being facetious, but then I ran some numbers in narida, and I accidentaly just came to the conclusion that the demolisher is actually a better melee character than the shadow.

dafuq!?!??

So go demolisher. :happy:

Dafuq?!....just ran the numbers too....

Shadow needs buffing then, because she's too damn flimsy not to be the best melee character.  She should be up there with the Krogan.

Narida's a bit misleading. It doesn't calculate the bonus damage against shields/barriers or armor, depending on your evolution choice. 

[Arctican]

Dunvi wrote...

Arctican wrote...

Dunvi wrote...

... I was being facetious, but then I ran some numbers in narida, and I accidentaly just came to the conclusion that the demolisher is actually a better melee character than the shadow.

dafuq!?!??

So go demolisher. :happy:

Demolisher is definitely a more lulzy melee character than the Shadow.

But Shadow has...dat armor damage. Decapitating 3 Gold Dragoons at once? Yes plz.

Seriously. Run the numbers. Demolisher has multipliers to all 3 defences.

I did. And that;s without rank 6 evolution on fitness. Click on the Tactical Cloak. It does 4000.

Modifié par Arctican, 01 février 2013 - 10:42 .

[Dunvi]

Arctican wrote...

Simba501 wrote...

Dunvi wrote...

... I was being facetious, but then I ran some numbers in narida, and I accidentaly just came to the conclusion that the demolisher is actually a better melee character than the shadow.

dafuq!?!??

So go demolisher. :happy:

Dafuq?!....just ran the numbers too....

Shadow needs buffing then, because she's too damn flimsy not to be the best melee character.  She should be up there with the Krogan.

Narida's a bit misleading. It doesn't calculate the bonus damage against shields/barriers or armor, depending on your evolution choice. 

I am aware, but again, the demolisher has inherent bonuses to all 3 defenses. She also has an area melee (that does hit enemies behind her), and better crowd control with arc nades. Shadow basically only wins on health (lame) and the defense you pick rank 6 fitness, or with tac cloak bonuses, which as much as people claim otherwise, can't actually be active constantly. My demolisher always gets 4000 damage against all defenses, and she has arc nades.

Modifié par Dunvi, 01 février 2013 - 10:52 .