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[Simba501]

I'm aware of the risks of Shadow Strike (learned the hard way lol).  I've been using the Shadow as my main character for quite some time.  Phantoms are typically not an issue with my build.  (I play on Gold.)  However, during my last match, I SS'ed a Phantom, dodged back, it started randomly melee'ing, and coming in for the second SS, I got executed with her sword kill.  It happened before the sword attack on the SS.  Never seen it before (not in my matches, nor in any gameplay videos I've seen).  

Has this ever happened to anyone else?

I just find it odd that she went from not knowing my location and doing random melees to locating me on the 2nd Shadow Strike before my attack even occurred.

Modifié par Simba501, 02 février 2013 - 01:01 .

[Omega117a]

Umm...

Your first shadow strike did not kill the phantom?

You're doing it wrong.

[PsychoticBiotic]

Working as intended. The enemies will always see you when you're that close. And never approach a phantom after she's melee'd or you will get sync killed.

[Simba501]

Omega117a wrote...

Umm...

Your first shadow strike did not kill the phantom?

You're doing it wrong.

I go for duration on cloak, don't have melee weapon  attachments, use a 6/6/6/0/6 build, and don't typically fire my weapon before hand.

[Arctican]

Simba501 wrote...

Omega117a wrote...

Umm...

Your first shadow strike did not kill the phantom?

You're doing it wrong.

I go for duration on cloak, don't have melee weapon  attachments, use a 6/6/6/0/6 build, and don't typically fire my weapon before hand.

You should ahve melee weapon attachments if you mean to use SS as a killing power. Otherwise, you're losing a lot of potential damage with her.

[Simba501]

Arctican wrote...

Simba501 wrote...

Omega117a wrote...

Umm...

Your first shadow strike did not kill the phantom?

You're doing it wrong.

I go for duration on cloak, don't have melee weapon  attachments, use a 6/6/6/0/6 build, and don't typically fire my weapon before hand.

You should ahve melee weapon attachments if you mean to use SS as a killing power. Otherwise, you're losing a lot of potential damage with her.

I would if I had them.

[crashmatusow]

Sync kills poorly implemented mechanic

Story at 10.

[Arctican]

Simba501 wrote...

Arctican wrote...

Simba501 wrote...

Omega117a wrote...

Umm...

Your first shadow strike did not kill the phantom?

You're doing it wrong.

I go for duration on cloak, don't have melee weapon  attachments, use a 6/6/6/0/6 build, and don't typically fire my weapon before hand.

You should ahve melee weapon attachments if you mean to use SS as a killing power. Otherwise, you're losing a lot of potential damage with her.

I would if I had them.

Oh, my bad. In that case, I recommend taking the Acolyte as a side weapon and use it against enemies that you can;t kill with one SS. Charge it up, Cloak, release trigger, and then SS the phantom for a OHK.

[TheBMT]

PsychoticBiotic wrote...

Working as intended. The enemies will always see you when you're that close. And never approach a phantom after she's melee'd or you will get sync killed.

Ive been sync killed by phantoms off a biotic charge, as I hit her.  Awesomness.

[Admiral Dreck]

Simba501 wrote...

Arctican wrote...

Simba501 wrote...

Omega117a wrote...

Umm...

Your first shadow strike did not kill the phantom?

You're doing it wrong.

I go for duration on cloak, don't have melee weapon  attachments, use a 6/6/6/0/6 build, and don't typically fire my weapon before hand.

You should ahve melee weapon attachments if you mean to use SS as a killing power. Otherwise, you're losing a lot of potential damage with her.

I would if I had them.

 Disciple with Heavy melee omni-blade.

[najzere]

Shotgun blade attachment is a common mod, why are you playing Gold if you don't even have your commons maxed?

[Julian Skies]

Simba501 wrote...

I'm aware of the risks of Shadow Strike (learned the hard way lol).  I've been using the Shadow as my main character for quite some time.  Phantoms are typically not an issue with my build.  (I play on Gold.)  However, during my last match, I SS'ed a Phantom, dodged back, it started randomly melee'ing, and coming in for the second SS, I got executed with her sword kill.  It happened before the sword attack on the SS.  Never seen it before (not in my matches, nor in any gameplay videos I've seen).  

Has this ever happened to anyone else?

I just find it odd that she went from not knowing my location and doing random melees to locating me on the 2nd Shadow Strike before my attack even occurred.

Okay here is something important: Both Biotic Charge, Shadow Slash and Havok Strike place you beside the enemy a good while before the attack actually connects, that is particularly visible the higher your ping is as the enemy has more time to react to you, I presume by design there is not supposed to be too much time between you being there and the attack connecting.

What happened here is that the first SS did not kill it, the Phantom meleed you and missed but this set her up for a sync kill. You used SS again, the game puts you right beside her, she's still locked on to you and since you're beside her using a power she can hear you despite the cloak, since you're detected and in sync kill range, she syncs you during the delay/windup for Shadow Strike.

It'd be advisable not to attempt that maneuver again like so.

[ToLazy4Name]

If a Phantom (Or any other Sync Kill unit except Banshees) does a melee attack, then anyone in their vicinity is open to a Sync Kill, regardless of what they're doing.

My Volus VanGOD got grabbed outta the air during a Biotic Charge by an angry Atlas.

[DeadeyeCYclops]

It gets even more fun if you are lagging and happen to SS them when she puts up her bubble....teleporting next to a phantom and doing 0 dmg....epic fun

[michaelgrunhardt]

ToLazy4Name wrote...

If a Phantom (Or any other Sync Kill unit except Banshees) does a melee attack, then anyone in their vicinity is open to a Sync Kill, regardless of what they're doing.

My Volus VanGOD got grabbed outta the air during a Biotic Charge by an angry Atlas.

Damn  I have never heard that happen anywhere before. That must of been a really bad death right there.

[GriM_AoD]

[mybudgee]

Max commons and uncommons before even considering gold. Be courteous bro..

[Blarg]

Personally, I think SS should grant a temporary synckill and stagger immunity, but whatever.

[Simba501]

mybudgee wrote...
Max commons and uncommons before even considering gold. Be courteous bro..

I don't need to "consider" gold lol. I play on that difficulty exclusively.  

blaaaaaaaaaarg wrote...
Personally, I think SS should grant a temporary synckill and stagger immunity, but whatever.

Agreed.

najzere wrote...
Shotgun blade attachment is a common mod, why are you playing Gold if you don't even have your commons maxed?

I don't typically use shotguns.  I play Gold because it is the right difficulty for me.  Silver is too easy and I'm not ready for Platinum.  I play well on Gold.

Julian Skies wrote...

Simba501 wrote...

I'm aware of the risks of Shadow Strike (learned the hard way lol).  I've been using the Shadow as my main character for quite some time.  Phantoms are typically not an issue with my build.  (I play on Gold.)  However, during my last match, I SS'ed a Phantom, dodged back, it started randomly melee'ing, and coming in for the second SS, I got executed with her sword kill.  It happened before the sword attack on the SS.  Never seen it before (not in my matches, nor in any gameplay videos I've seen).  

Has this ever happened to anyone else?

I just find it odd that she went from not knowing my location and doing random melees to locating me on the 2nd Shadow Strike before my attack even occurred.

Okay here is something important: Both Biotic Charge, Shadow Slash and Havok Strike place you beside the enemy a good while before the attack actually connects, that is particularly visible the higher your ping is as the enemy has more time to react to you, I presume by design there is not supposed to be too much time between you being there and the attack connecting.

What happened here is that the first SS did not kill it, the Phantom meleed you and missed but this set her up for a sync kill. You used SS again, the game puts you right beside her, she's still locked on to you and since you're beside her using a power she can hear you despite the cloakn, since you're detected and in sync kill range, she syncs you during the delay/windup for Shadow Strike.

It'd be advisable not to attempt that maneuver again like so.

I've done this hundreds of times.  This is the first time it has ever happened.  The patch crossed my mind as a possible culprit.  I know the mechanics of sync kills; it happens to me maybe once in an entire session (hours), if at all.

Modifié par Simba501, 02 février 2013 - 04:43 .

[llandwynwyn]

I once used SS and the phantom interrupted my Shadow and grabbed her. She probably had used melee on a team mate that ran away. It only happened once, thank god.

[Emperoroverlord]

If a phantom noticed you perior for you to proform SS she can interrupt by insta-kill.

[Red Panda]

Could you link us to your N7HQ?

[InstaShark]

Simple guide for SS with Duration Cloak versus Phantoms:

1. Shadow Strike
2. Cartwheel away
3. Repeat Steps 1 and 2
4. ?????
5. Profit.

Modifié par InstaShark, 02 février 2013 - 05:20 .

[Red Panda]

Found your manifest, you have a quite servicable blade attachment for a scimitar if you want to.


Though, I do admit, sync kills are ultra cheap sometimes.