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[RZIBARA]

bobbydarko wrote...

RZIBARA wrote...

bobbydarko wrote...

I agree.

God of war trilogy was good, just never really evolved.
Metal Gear was just too all over the place.
Uncharted is 3 awesome games, but really no connectivity whatsoever other than Nathan, Elana and Sully being in all 3.
Gears of war. Admittedly, im a pretty big gears fan. All 3 games were great. The story was underwhelming however. Gears of war 3 ends when a certain character meets his/her demise IMO, but the game gores on for another few hrs. Overall gears just felt like it was going somewhere and never got there. wtf was the point of the queen?
Halo was good. Halo 2 was dumb though.

Overall, ME is the only trilogy that truly told a story throughout all 3 games. Its one of the only 'planned' trilogies in gaming. Most of the others i mentioned only became trilogies because the first sold so well. regardless of the endings, the ME trilogy should be looked at as the benchmark of how to do a trilogy going forward.

Oh and the whole carrying your saves over from one game to the next? When are others companies gonna start doing this...

i agree with everything here. except for halo 2 being dumb. LOL no offense but halo 2= best halo ever created, best story IMO. 

And yeah i thought gears trilogy was really good with great moments, but the ending to GoW 3 wasnt as epic as i thought it would be, but it was good none the less

Halo 2 played great. it was a great game even. I just didn't care about arbitor. I didn't want to humanize the covenant. I wanted to kill them.

the arbiter was one of the better characters in halo IMO. Tarturus, shipmaster, and the prophets were well done (although i find ME's characters much better done than ANY halo character). I liked seeing the covie side of things. i was a big fan of halo before reach and 4, but ME trilogy destroys halo easily

[ElementL09]

RZIBARA wrote...

bobbydarko wrote...

RZIBARA wrote...

bobbydarko wrote...

I agree.

God of war trilogy was good, just never really evolved.
Metal Gear was just too all over the place.
Uncharted is 3 awesome games, but really no connectivity whatsoever other than Nathan, Elana and Sully being in all 3.
Gears of war. Admittedly, im a pretty big gears fan. All 3 games were great. The story was underwhelming however. Gears of war 3 ends when a certain character meets his/her demise IMO, but the game gores on for another few hrs. Overall gears just felt like it was going somewhere and never got there. wtf was the point of the queen?
Halo was good. Halo 2 was dumb though.

Overall, ME is the only trilogy that truly told a story throughout all 3 games. Its one of the only 'planned' trilogies in gaming. Most of the others i mentioned only became trilogies because the first sold so well. regardless of the endings, the ME trilogy should be looked at as the benchmark of how to do a trilogy going forward.

Oh and the whole carrying your saves over from one game to the next? When are others companies gonna start doing this...

i agree with everything here. except for halo 2 being dumb. LOL no offense but halo 2= best halo ever created, best story IMO. 

And yeah i thought gears trilogy was really good with great moments, but the ending to GoW 3 wasnt as epic as i thought it would be, but it was good none the less

Halo 2 played great. it was a great game even. I just didn't care about arbitor. I didn't want to humanize the covenant. I wanted to kill them.

the arbiter was one of the better characters in halo IMO. Tarturus, shipmaster, and the prophets were well done (although i find ME's characters much better done than ANY halo character). I liked seeing the covie side of things. i was a big fan of halo before reach and 4, but ME trilogy destroys halo easily

Thats what made Halo 2 so great, it wasn't to Humanize the covenant, it was just to show that they themselves have their own problems.  With Halo 2, you saw 2 sides toward the same story.  It wasn't just about the Master Chief, it was also about the Arbiter and the trials he goes through, and the lies and deciet the Prophets have been telling them and the beginning of the Great Schism.

[RZIBARA]

ElementL09 wrote...

Thats what made Halo 2 so great, it wasn't to Humanize the covenant, it was just to show that they themselves have their own problems.  With Halo 2, you saw 2 sides toward the same story.  It wasn't just about the Master Chief, it was also about the Arbiter and the trials he goes through, and the lies and deciet the Prophets have been telling them and the beginning of the Great Schism.

Halo 2 really had a great story. I felt Halo 3 really dumbed down the covie side of things. We never saw anything about the covies in Halo 3. No elites vs brutes, separtists vs loyalists. After halo 2 i was expecting epic elite vs brute stuff, all we got was one mission where you got elites vs brutes, and only for a small portion of the level

Modifié par RZIBARA, 02 février 2013 - 04:07 .

[Lyrandori]

RZIBARA wrote...

bobbydarko wrote...

RZIBARA wrote...

bobbydarko wrote...

I agree.

God of war trilogy was good, just never really evolved.
Metal Gear was just too all over the place.
Uncharted is 3 awesome games, but really no connectivity whatsoever other than Nathan, Elana and Sully being in all 3.
Gears of war. Admittedly, im a pretty big gears fan. All 3 games were great. The story was underwhelming however. Gears of war 3 ends when a certain character meets his/her demise IMO, but the game gores on for another few hrs. Overall gears just felt like it was going somewhere and never got there. wtf was the point of the queen?
Halo was good. Halo 2 was dumb though.

Overall, ME is the only trilogy that truly told a story throughout all 3 games. Its one of the only 'planned' trilogies in gaming. Most of the others i mentioned only became trilogies because the first sold so well. regardless of the endings, the ME trilogy should be looked at as the benchmark of how to do a trilogy going forward.

Oh and the whole carrying your saves over from one game to the next? When are others companies gonna start doing this...

i agree with everything here. except for halo 2 being dumb. LOL no offense but halo 2= best halo ever created, best story IMO. 

And yeah i thought gears trilogy was really good with great moments, but the ending to GoW 3 wasnt as epic as i thought it would be, but it was good none the less

Halo 2 played great. it was a great game even. I just didn't care about arbitor. I didn't want to humanize the covenant. I wanted to kill them.

the arbiter was one of the better characters in halo IMO. Tarturus, shipmaster, and the prophets were well done (although i find ME's characters much better done than ANY halo character). I liked seeing the covie side of things. i was a big fan of halo before reach and 4, but ME trilogy destroys halo easily

I have to admit that Diana Allers was better written and had much more purpose in the story, and much more relevance in the grand scheme of things than the Arbiter or the Prophets. Heck even Master Chief didn't fit in the story as well as Allers did in the Mass Effect trilogy. Especially considering that she popped out of nowhere in ME3 but there was a definite foreshadowing of her arrival prior to ME3, I just can't recall when though.

...

Tell me you were referring to the main cast of permanent squadmates, pretty please?

Well I admit that the Volus Biotic God is a better character than... hmmm... than that random marine that Master Chief grabs in CE to get to that escape pod. I mean that coward ended up crawling in fear and might have delayed the pod's escape and Master Chief might have had to prolong his stay in the Pillar of Autumn, so yeah I didn't like that random marine. And I also admit that Shepard Cabin's Space Hamster is certainly a better character than say... a random Flood Covenant, heck Space Hamster is actually better than the Arbiter (not better than his voice actor though, I mean c'mon, there's limits, even for Space Hamster).

If I were to include Conrad Verner, however, than NO OTHER TRILOGIES EVER in existence (and even those that might exist that haven't been invented yet) would stand a chance. But, I won't do that, because that wouldn't be fair.

[Cobretti ftw]

nope.. and probably the most disapointing.. ME3 is the most desapointing sequel for sure.

[RZIBARA]

Lyrandori wrote...

RZIBARA wrote...


the arbiter was one of the better characters in halo IMO. Tarturus, shipmaster, and the prophets were well done (although i find ME's characters much better done than ANY halo character). I liked seeing the covie side of things. i was a big fan of halo before reach and 4, but ME trilogy destroys halo easily

I have to admit that Diana Allers was better written and had much more purpose in the story, and much more relevance in the grand scheme of things than the Arbiter or the Prophets. Heck even Master Chief didn't fit in the story as well as Allers did in the Mass Effect trilogy. Especially considering that she popped out of nowhere in ME3 but there was a definite foreshadowing of her arrival prior to ME3, I just can't recall when though.

...

Tell me you were referring to the main cast of permanent squadmates, pretty please?

Well I admit that the Volus Biotic God is a better character than... hmmm... than that random marine that Master Chief grabs in CE to get to that escape pod. I mean that coward ended up crawling in fear and might have delayed the pod's escape and Master Chief might have had to prolong his stay in the Pillar of Autumn, so yeah I didn't like that random marine. And I also admit that Shepard Cabin's Space Hamster is certainly a better character than say... a random Flood Covenant, heck Space Hamster is actually better than the Arbiter (not better than his voice actor though, I mean c'mon, there's limits, even for Space Hamster).

If I were to include Conrad Verner, however, than NO OTHER TRILOGIES EVER in existence (and even those that might exist that haven't been invented yet) would stand a chance. But, I won't do that, because that wouldn't be fair.

Well not all the characters in ME are great (jacob and kaidan bored the **** out of me), but the majority of them are definetly (im talking main characters like squadmates, shepard, anderson, udina) better. In halo, johnson is well done and so are arby and shipmaster. Prophets and tartarus too. but the difference is with halo, half the story is in the books. Especially with characters. In ME, you get to know the characters (the interaction helps here alot), and learn about them. lets take halo 4 as an example. What do you learn about del rio or palmer? nothing. And same with lasky (unless you count FUD, but again thats extended universe)  

[vandalDX]

RZIBARA wrote...

k.lalh wrote...

RZIBARA wrote...

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No offense but did you read? I already watched the endings. I know they suck

Umm, your opinion on the ending will change when you actually get there. Too much stuff happens up till then.

There are other parts in the game itself that may affect your opinions too. My advice is stay off the forums until you're done.

what do you mean? are you suggesting i may like them, or hate them even more

Play the game your way, come what may.  Then, play it again, making new choices with a new Shepard.  And then again...and again...

I have 8 Shepards, each with his/her own special set of proclivities and inclinations.  Each time, I have seen new elements of the game, and seen things play out differently.  Each time, it has been hugely satisfying and worthwhile.  I, for one, am 100% with you 

[RZIBARA]

Aaleel wrote...

I think as a whole I liked the Xenosaga trilogy the best. All three games meshed together, the story was outstanding throughout, and the third game was awesome.

The ending was bittersweet, just great all around.

never played it tbh, whats it about

[Yate]

Mmm... once Bioshock Infinite comes out you might have some competition.

[LeandroBraz]

It's funny how people jump to the conclusion that he won't see the trilogy as the best (in his opinion) when he finish playing ME3. You guys forget that most of the issues with ME3 come from the expectations we had, the way Bioware gave us hope that this expectations would be reached, and finally the disappointing when we saw that none of this was truth.

He already saw the ending, he know that his decisions won't matter that much on the final minutes, he didn't played two games and waited with numerous saves for years hoping for this outcome, instead, he played knowing what will matter at the end, he know what is coming. This changes everything, he can judge ME3 for what it is, not based on false expectations.

ME3 still a good experience, and a unique one, since it's the only game out there that remember what you did on the first two, doesn't matter if the differences didn't reached our expectations. I don't like to use the term "the best", but I can say that I regret nothing. Amazing trilogy, I played, replayed numerous times and I will replay again, all 3 games, even if the third isn't the game I expected it would be...

Modifié par LeandroBraz, 02 février 2013 - 05:05 .

[Seboist]

LeandroBraz wrote...

It's funny how people jump to the conclusion that he won't see the trilogy as the best (in his opinion) when he finish playing ME3. You guys forget that most of the issues with ME3 come from the expectations we had, the way Bioware gave us hope that this expectations would be reached, and finally the disappointing when we saw that none of this was truth.

He already saw the ending, he know that his decisions won't matter that much on the final minutes, he didn't played two games and waited with numerous saves for years hoping for this outcome, instead, he played knowing what will matter at the end, he know what is coming. This changes everything, he can judge ME3 for what it is, not based on false expectations.

ME3 still a good experience, and a unique one, since it's the only game out there that remember what you did on the first two, doesn't matter if the differences didn't reached our expectations. I don't like to use the term "the best", but I can say that I regret nothing. Amazing trilogy, I played, replayed numerous times and I will replay again, all 3 games, even if the third isn't the game I expected it would be...

Decisions stopped mattering long before the "final minutes".

[RZIBARA]

LeandroBraz wrote...

It's funny how people jump to the conclusion that he won't see the trilogy as the best (in his opinion) when he finish playing ME3. You guys forget that most of the issues with ME3 come from the expectations we had, the way Bioware gave us hope that this expectations would be reached, and finally the disappointing when we saw that none of this was truth.

He already saw the ending, he know that his decisions won't matter that much on the final minutes, he didn't played two games and waited with numerous saves for years hoping for this outcome, instead, he played knowing what will matter at the end, he know what is coming. This changes everything, he can judge ME3 for what it is, not based on false expectations.

ME3 still a good experience, and a unique one, since it's the only game out there that remember what you did on the first two, doesn't matter if the differences didn't reached our expectations. I don't like to use the term "the best", but I can say that I regret nothing. Amazing trilogy, I played, replayed numerous times and I will replay again, all 3 games, even if the third isn't the game I expected it would be...

yeah that is very true, unlike most people here, i wasnt hyped up for any if the games as i didnt wait for any of them to be released. 

[LeandroBraz]

Seboist wrote...

LeandroBraz wrote...

It's funny how people jump to the conclusion that he won't see the trilogy as the best (in his opinion) when he finish playing ME3. You guys forget that most of the issues with ME3 come from the expectations we had, the way Bioware gave us hope that this expectations would be reached, and finally the disappointing when we saw that none of this was truth.

He already saw the ending, he know that his decisions won't matter that much on the final minutes, he didn't played two games and waited with numerous saves for years hoping for this outcome, instead, he played knowing what will matter at the end, he know what is coming. This changes everything, he can judge ME3 for what it is, not based on false expectations.

ME3 still a good experience, and a unique one, since it's the only game out there that remember what you did on the first two, doesn't matter if the differences didn't reached our expectations. I don't like to use the term "the best", but I can say that I regret nothing. Amazing trilogy, I played, replayed numerous times and I will replay again, all 3 games, even if the third isn't the game I expected it would be...

Decisions stopped mattering long before the "final minutes".

No, it don't, it just don't have the amazing, incredible effect we was hoping for, and that Bioware said it would have. But your decisions shape the entire game, unfortunaly most are details, and there's things like the collectors base that we hoped for a huge effect on the story, and it ended changing basically some dialogues that doesn't matter, but still, our decisions mattered and my experience was different from yours..

[LeandroBraz]

RZIBARA wrote...

LeandroBraz wrote...

It's funny how people jump to the conclusion that he won't see the trilogy as the best (in his opinion) when he finish playing ME3. You guys forget that most of the issues with ME3 come from the expectations we had, the way Bioware gave us hope that this expectations would be reached, and finally the disappointing when we saw that none of this was truth.

He already saw the ending, he know that his decisions won't matter that much on the final minutes, he didn't played two games and waited with numerous saves for years hoping for this outcome, instead, he played knowing what will matter at the end, he know what is coming. This changes everything, he can judge ME3 for what it is, not based on false expectations.

ME3 still a good experience, and a unique one, since it's the only game out there that remember what you did on the first two, doesn't matter if the differences didn't reached our expectations. I don't like to use the term "the best", but I can say that I regret nothing. Amazing trilogy, I played, replayed numerous times and I will replay again, all 3 games, even if the third isn't the game I expected it would be...

yeah that is very true, unlike most people here, i wasnt hyped up for any if the games as i didnt wait for any of them to be released. 

Exactly. Tha't's the biggest problem here on BSN when discussing ME3. People can't forget the hype they had and look at the game for what it is, not what we was lead to believe it would be. Since you never had this hype, you can judge the game from a different perspective..

[Alien Number Six]

I love Mass Effect.