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[billy7768]

Is half blast the way to go, or full. I was curious what the general consensus is.

[Kittstalkur]

I've been using this.

As long as you Nova cancel until Biotic Charge is ready when you're in a tough pack, you'll be perfectly fine. Once you get Nova's power synergy buff up and you've got Charge's power synergy running, you're a freight train as long as you keep on target. I dive into packs of 2-3 phantoms and send them flying in all directions all the time.

[Tyrannus00]

Fullblast all the way. High risk high reward baby.

[IxMerc04]

I go full blast tried half wasn't risky enough or strong enough.

[Arctican]

Half blast makes you a better detonator and also a safer way to play. Full blast gives you more powerful Nova's and faster Biotic Charges.

[Tokenusername]

Half blast can allow for unlimited offencive capibility. With a low cooldown you can use BC, then Nova, then Nova again, and now BC is recharged and you can repeat until all the things are dead. You can literally just chain BC and Nova nonstop.

Or at least that was the case 7 months ago. That didn't change right? I don't know anything anymore!

Modifié par Tokenusername, 02 février 2013 - 10:57 .

[Hyperglide]

I used to go HB, but FB is the way to go. More damage and your BC recharges a lot faster.

HB build is good too though. It's more of a CC build cause you can stagger large groups longer, but it will also take longer to kill.

[Simba501]

Full blast

Combined with a fast cool down and barrier restore on biotic charge.

[InstaShark]

Half blast. Lets you "Nova cancel" for invincibility frames.

Modifié par InstaShark, 02 février 2013 - 05:02 .

[ValorOfArms777]

I do kinda wish nova had a buff on it's damage a tad

even with full blast feels a little under the weather atm

Modifié par ValorOfArms777, 02 février 2013 - 05:04 .

[RedJohn]

Full blast is the way real men take it.

A vanguard can't be completely alive, it wouldn't been a true vanguard, but also can't be death.

[RedJohn]

InstaShark wrote...

Half blast. Lets you "Nova cancel" for invincibility frames.

With full blast you have invincibility frames.

[InstaShark]

RedJohn wrote...

InstaShark wrote...

Half blast. Lets you "Nova cancel" for invincibility frames.

With full blast you have invincibility frames.

Doesn't help if you already use all of your barriers, THEN things start to shoot at you.

[RedJohn]

InstaShark wrote...

RedJohn wrote...

InstaShark wrote...

Half blast. Lets you "Nova cancel" for invincibility frames.

With full blast you have invincibility frames.

Doesn't help if you already use all of your barriers, THEN things start to shoot at you.

Then learn to not be quiet in that place waiting for enemies to shoot you

Also, after shieldgate there is the healthgate, it will give you enough time to use charge again unless you use Javelin and claymore at the same time.

Novaguarding is an art, not so many know how to do it good

[InstaShark]

RedJohn wrote...

InstaShark wrote...

RedJohn wrote...

InstaShark wrote...

Half blast. Lets you "Nova cancel" for invincibility frames.

With full blast you have invincibility frames.

Doesn't help if you already use all of your barriers, THEN things start to shoot at you.

Then learn to not be quiet in that place waiting for enemies to shoot you

Also, after shieldgate there is the healthgate, it will give you enough time to use charge again unless you use Javelin and claymore at the same time.

Novaguarding is an art, not so many know how to do it good

Implying that I don't know how to Novaguard.

Ask anybody who's seen me use him and they'll let you know how well I do with Half Blast.
P.S. How's the situation with Full Blast against Turrets?

Modifié par InstaShark, 02 février 2013 - 05:24 .

[ToLazy4Name]

Half Blast. More Invincibility Frames, more damage (If both blasts hit), and better synergy with Power Combos, which is what the Novaguard really shines at.

[RedJohn]

InstaShark wrote...

RedJohn wrote...

InstaShark wrote...

RedJohn wrote...

InstaShark wrote...

Half blast. Lets you "Nova cancel" for invincibility frames.

With full blast you have invincibility frames.

Doesn't help if you already use all of your barriers, THEN things start to shoot at you.

Then learn to not be quiet in that place waiting for enemies to shoot you

Also, after shieldgate there is the healthgate, it will give you enough time to use charge again unless you use Javelin and claymore at the same time.

Novaguarding is an art, not so many know how to do it good

Implying that I don't know how to Novaguard.

Ask anybody who's seen me use him and they'll let you know how well I do with Half Blast.
P.S. How's the situation with Full Blast against Turrets?

I'm not implying anything.

Turrets are not a problem, hardly ever get killed by one, you get the same time of inmortality with full blast that you get with half blast, you are just reducing your power to the half without take any real advantage.

[Locutus_of_BORG]

Full and half blast both let you Nova cancel. What Half-blast does is give you the option of detonating a combo and still Nova cancel. Half blast is also safer by letting you screw up once. That's it, really.

Modifié par Locutus_of_BORG, 02 février 2013 - 05:37 .

[llandwynwyn]

RedJohn wrote...

Full blast is the way real men take it.

A vanguard can't be completely alive, it wouldn't been a true vanguard, but also can't be death.

This.

And without cancelling nova because, let's admit, it's cheap.

p.s. Fullnovas have no problem facing multiples turrets on gold.

Modifié par llandwynwyn, 02 février 2013 - 05:38 .

[InstaShark]

RedJohn wrote...

InstaShark wrote...

RedJohn wrote...

InstaShark wrote...

RedJohn wrote...

InstaShark wrote...

Half blast. Lets you "Nova cancel" for invincibility frames.

With full blast you have invincibility frames.

Doesn't help if you already use all of your barriers, THEN things start to shoot at you.

Then learn to not be quiet in that place waiting for enemies to shoot you

Also, after shieldgate there is the healthgate, it will give you enough time to use charge again unless you use Javelin and claymore at the same time.

Novaguarding is an art, not so many know how to do it good

Implying that I don't know how to Novaguard.

Ask anybody who's seen me use him and they'll let you know how well I do with Half Blast.
P.S. How's the situation with Full Blast against Turrets?

I'm not implying anything.

Turrets are not a problem, hardly ever get killed by one, you get the same time of inmortality with full blast that you get with half blast, you are just reducing your power to the half without take any real advantage.

Half Blast does 60% of the "original" full damage at the cost of only half of your barriers.

Base damage for Nova with full blast and Force/Damage evo at Rank 4 is 595, base damage with half is 455. When using Half Blast at maximum barriers, it has a potential of 910 damage. So, even if the second blast doesn't have the maximum damage output due to a bit of damage against its barriers, it still does more damage in total compared to the full blast.

As a post above you mentioned before, you get more of an opportunity to use your invincibiltiy frames, thus protecting your shield gate in case a clusterf-bleep- of stuff starts coming at you.

So, I think it's safe to say that Half Blast has more of an edge here.

Modifié par InstaShark, 02 février 2013 - 05:41 .

[Deerber]

InstaShark wrote...

RedJohn wrote...

InstaShark wrote...

RedJohn wrote...

InstaShark wrote...

RedJohn wrote...

InstaShark wrote...

Half blast. Lets you "Nova cancel" for invincibility frames.

With full blast you have invincibility frames.

Doesn't help if you already use all of your barriers, THEN things start to shoot at you.

Then learn to not be quiet in that place waiting for enemies to shoot you

Also, after shieldgate there is the healthgate, it will give you enough time to use charge again unless you use Javelin and claymore at the same time.

Novaguarding is an art, not so many know how to do it good

Implying that I don't know how to Novaguard.

Ask anybody who's seen me use him and they'll let you know how well I do with Half Blast.
P.S. How's the situation with Full Blast against Turrets?

I'm not implying anything.

Turrets are not a problem, hardly ever get killed by one, you get the same time of inmortality with full blast that you get with half blast, you are just reducing your power to the half without take any real advantage.

Half Blast does 60% of the "original" full damage at the cost of only half of your barriers.

Base damage for Nova with full blast and Force/Damage evo at Rank 4 is 595, base damage with half is 455. When using Half Blast at maximum barriers, it has a potential of 910 damage. So, even if the second blast doesn't have the maximum damage output due to a bit of damage against its barriers, it still does more damage in total compared to the full blast.

As a post above you mentioned before, you get more of an opportunity to use your invincibiltiy frames, thus protecting your shield gate in case a clusterf-bleep- of stuff starts coming at you.

So, I think it's safe to say that Half Blast has more of an edge here.

Objectively speaking, the only thing full blast has over half blast is a faster charge.

[scoopapa1]

Lifting Shockwave and Radius Nova for the lols.

[RedJohn]

Half Blast does 60% of the "original" full damage at the cost of only half of your barriers.

Base damage for Nova with full blast and Force/Damage evo at Rank 4 is 595, base damage with half is 455. When using Half Blast at maximum barriers, it has a potential of 910 damage. So, even if the second blast doesn't have the maximum damage output due to a bit of damage against its barriers, it still does more damage in total compared to the full blast.

As a post above you mentioned before, you get more of an opportunity to use your invincibiltiy frames, thus protecting your shield gate in case a clusterf-bleep- of stuff starts coming at you.

So, I think it's safe to say that Half Blast has more of an edge here.

it's a waste of times to use 2 novas if you have half blast when instead of that you can deal a similar amount of damage with only one, at least for me.

I tried half blast on demo and couldn't do as good as I did with full blast and with full blast i solo'd gold back on demo with a phalanx V.

Half blast makes me waste too much time and combo oportunities, i normaly use Human Vanguard with Talon and Disrupt ammo, shot nova = tech burst + shot + bio charge more tech burst, in that way you deal much more but MUCH more damage in less time than if you use half blast.