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Let's face it, ME:Deception is the reason no one likes Kai Leng


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Applepie_Svk

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MegaSovereign wrote...

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Ithurael wrote...

aren't they re-writing that novel?


they said it loong agoooooooo.... abouuuut yeaaaaar agoooooooo


The rewrite will come free with every copy of Half Life 3.


Or next Wacraft RTS :lol:

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HagarIshay wrote...

How I'd love if Kai Leng really drew a pic of Shep sucking his dick... That would certaintly make him my favorite antagonist.


My Shepard would castrate him the next time she saw him. Not like Kai has much to suck anyway....

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I thought it wasn't possible to make Leng worse than Diez did, but ME3 proved I was wrong about that.

I do not know what is wrong with Bioware's quality control lately

Worse, he is a concentrate of bad stereotypes, aggrivaring mechanics and dumb rule of cool wrapped in stupid plot armor. It is good to have a villain to hate but he needs to be hated for the right reasons


Q&A can be pain in the ass if you just want to make things happen.

so what you are saying is either Bioware did not care or those who OK'd the book were just dumb?


From BW's point of view it just might have been that they had contract with book publisher for four novels. After Drew left, their main priority might have been just fullfilling their part of the contract.

so they let quality take a nose dive....and that is not caring AND being dumb since they went public and said that they read the book multiple times before publishing

Modifié par crimzontearz, 02 février 2013 - 04:47 .


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Sorry OP, but I never read Deception and I still hate Kai 'the king of cut -scene power' Leng. He was supposed to be anti -Shep, not a cardboard clown...

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matt-bassist wrote...

 It's not because he's supposed to be this super-badass. My Shepard doesn't give a fk, because SHE is the super-badass.

It's not because he uses cut-scenes to defeat us (although that doesn't help his case).

It's because he ate the cereal. Dig deep, you all know it!

Never read Deception. My dislike for Kai Leng stems entirely from how he was portrayed in ME3.

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Arcian wrote...

matt-bassist wrote...

 It's not because he's supposed to be this super-badass. My Shepard doesn't give a fk, because SHE is the super-badass.

It's not because he uses cut-scenes to defeat us (although that doesn't help his case).

It's because he ate the cereal. Dig deep, you all know it!

Never read Deception. My dislike for Kai Leng stems entirely from how he was portrayed in ME3.


Which is how he was portrayed in Deception too

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I haven't read any of the books. Kai Leng is just a douche

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I've always wondered who wrote all the crappy lines for Pie Lame in ME3...

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I haven't read Deception, but I have read all about Leng's "Cereal Killer" status and that could have been forgiven had he been well written in ME3. He was not. The reason I hate him is because he's nothing more than a Cerberus Phantom w/ a face. In ME3 Leng has none of the intelligence, ruthlessness or severity that he did in Retribution. In fact, he has little to no character whatsoever. It's like he was neutered, declawed and made to be nothing more than an annoying gnat that should have been squashed if not for his Teflon plot-armor.

Modifié par JamieCOTC, 02 février 2013 - 05:09 .


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JamieCOTC wrote...

I haven't read Deception, but I have read all about Leng's "Cereal Killer" status and that could have been forgiven had he been well written in ME3. He was not. The reason I hate him is because he's nothing more than a Cerberus Phantom w/ a face. In ME3 Leng has none of the intelligence, ruthlessness or severity that he did in Retribution. In fact, he has little to no character whatsoever. It's like he was neutered, declawed and made to be nothing more than an annoying gnat that should have been squashed if not for his Teflon plot-armor.


Nobody in ME3 backed up Bioware's claim of better ruthless and intelligent enemy AIs

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I didn't mind Kai Leng - I didn't LIKE him, but I wasn't supposed to, haha, he was my adversary and I didn't read the books. Not sure if that helps

Modifié par StElmo, 02 février 2013 - 05:22 .


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Still no update on that rewrite either. Hmm.

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I would have forgave his portrayal in Deception if he was well written in ME3. He was not. He was horrible in ME3.

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He looks like came from Deus Ex.

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OperatingWookie wrote...

He looks like came from Deus Ex.


Don't insult Adam Jensen >:(

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AresKeith wrote...

OperatingWookie wrote...

He looks like came from Deus Ex.


Don't insult Adam Jensen >:(


JC Denton would be proud.

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Arcian wrote...

matt-bassist wrote...

 It's not because he's supposed to be this super-badass. My Shepard doesn't give a fk, because SHE is the super-badass.

It's not because he uses cut-scenes to defeat us (although that doesn't help his case).

It's because he ate the cereal. Dig deep, you all know it!

Never read Deception. My dislike for Kai Leng stems entirely from how he was portrayed in ME3.


Same.

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Ithurael wrote...

aren't they re-writing that novel?


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When Casey Hudson likes the novel including Kai Leng, do you think they'll remake it?

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Kai Leng sucks, all versions of him. In Deception he sucks, in ME3 he sucks and even in Retribution he still sucks (although less than in ME3 and Deception).

Kai Leng is just a childish, immature and dumb wannabe Japanese anime villain who doesn't belong in the Mass Effect universe. Period.


Kai Leng would be better suited in a Japanse cartoon/anime series for children, like Naruto or Bleach.

Modifié par Heretic_Hanar, 02 février 2013 - 07:49 .


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crimzontearz wrote...

I did not read deception and I still do not like him for many reasons


QFT

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I didn't like Kai Leng because he was a faceless, hardass, one-dimensional dbag. That kind of character has no place in Mass Effect storytelling. At least the Illusive Man, for all one could say about him, had clear motivations and acted in a consistent way (even while indoctrinated). Illusive was a three-dimensional character, and a great villain (he was a great villain in ME2, too).

Kai Leng just expresses no passion, no emotion period, no motivations, or nothing even remotely sapient or sentient. He was basically just a souped up ME1/ME2 security bot with a kung-fu program.

Modifié par Auld Wulf, 02 février 2013 - 07:55 .


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Rumor says that the rewrite of Deception is complete, but the publisher wont print it until all the remaining copies they have of the original have been sold.

PS. I never read Deception and still think Kai Leng is retarded.

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Heretic_Hanar wrote...

Kai Leng is just a childish, immature and dumb wannabe Japanese anime villain who doesn't belong in the Mass Effect universe. Period.


This, a thousand times!

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There's no reason to like Deception. It's a piece of crap.... sorry to say that, but it clearly is. When it first came out it was flawed with lore mistakes and even with correct it it is the weakest part of all ME novels. Well, it wasn't written by Drew so no wonder. Also it has forshadowed me the fall of ME3.... but there's an whole other story and it has nothing to do with this topic so I'm out :)

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crimzontearz wrote...

I did not read deception and I still do not like him for many reasons


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