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[TheCandlejack]

Ryumanjisen wrote...

I still don't get why people here, BSN'ers, thinks to be an "elitist" is bad. Let's take a look at the definition of the word "elite":

Elite: A group of people considered to be the best in a particular society or category, esp. because of their power or talent.

So, being part of the "people considered to be the best" is bad? I'm afraid we have more jealous people, than elitists, here.

BSN believes that if you play only Platinum and can solo it, are part of something like S.p.E.c.T.R.E X, get good scores consistently, you don't play PuGs because you don't feel like putting up with potential failed games, and believe something truly is OP or needs a buff, you're considered an elitist douche.

Modifié par TheCandlejack, 03 février 2013 - 07:11 .

[Cyonan]

Ryumanjisen wrote...

I still don't get why people here, BSN'ers, thinks to be an "elitist" is bad. Let's take a look at the definition of the word "elite":

Elite: A group of people considered to be the best in a particular society or category, esp. because of their power or talent.

So, being part of the "people considered to be the best" is bad? I'm afraid we have more jealous people, than elitists, here.

Being an elite is not bad.

Being an elitist jerk is bad.

[Ryumanjisen]

Being an elite is not bad.

Being an elitist jerk is bad.

Strangely enough, almost everytime I see the word "elitist" here is followed by such unpleasant adjectives like "jerk" or douchebag".

[Homey C-Dawg]

I've seen people called elitists jerks for using game mechanics like RC and pizza running. I've also seen people called elitist jerks for because they "play for fun" or because they "play the game as devs intended".

I guess anything that someone else doesn't like will make you an elitist jerk. Seems to me the phrase is in the process of losing it's meaning.

[Schw4ng1n]

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[Cyonan]

Ryumanjisen wrote...

Strangely enough, almost everytime I see the word "elitist" here is followed by such unpleasant adjectives like "jerk" or douchebag".

The word gets thrown around a lot.

I'd say you're only an elitist jerk if you're looking down on other players because they don't play in the way that you think is the "best".

Simply being good is not bad.

[BridgeBurner]

Cyonan wrote...

Ryumanjisen wrote...

Strangely enough, almost everytime I see the word "elitist" here is followed by such unpleasant adjectives like "jerk" or douchebag".

The word gets thrown around a lot.

I'd say you're only an elitist jerk if you're looking down on other players because they don't play in the way that you think is the "best".

Simply being good is not bad.

But if they're not playing properly then they're not good players...

Ergo, they are bad players.

Ergo we must ridicule them.

:happy:

[Ryumanjisen]

 

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Problem is a lot of the people on BSN seem to conflate the two. So being really good at the game automatically makes people think you look down on people who aren't as good, think that the game should be catered to people of your skill, etc. etc.

Cyonan wrote...

The word gets thrown around a lot.

I'd say you're only an elitist jerk if you're looking down on other players because they don't play in the way that you think is the "best".

Simply being good is not bad.

I'm not precisely an avid reader of these forums, but I have yet to see someone who blatantly look down on other players. Sure, there's a lot of bragging and arguing about what's an exploit or not, which classes are better (I don't like to use the "OP" word in a cooperative game) than others and all that jazz.

But a true "elitist jerk"? As I said, I haven't seen one. Perhaps I should pay more attention to this forum, who knows.

[Homey C-Dawg]

Anyone remember that line from Bioshock? "So there are no innocents. There are heroes, and there are criminals."

I think it's kind of like that. "There are no average players. There are elitists, and there are scrubs."

[LegionofRannoch]

what makes someone an elite?

Modifié par LegionofRannoch, 03 février 2013 - 07:27 .

[Daxamite]

When we have games with PuldAlpha, he usually outscores everyone with his level 1 character and we call him an elitist douchebag - as a term of affection.

[Schachmatt123]

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Cyonan wrote...

Ryumanjisen wrote...

I still don't get why people here, BSN'ers, thinks to be an "elitist" is bad. Let's take a look at the definition of the word "elite":

Elite: A group of people considered to be the best in a particular society or category, esp. because of their power or talent.

So, being part of the "people considered to be the best" is bad? I'm afraid we have more jealous people, than elitists, here.

Being an elite is not bad.

Being an elitist jerk is bad.

 

Problem is a lot of the people on BSN seem to conflate the two. So being really good at the game automatically makes people think you look down on people who aren't as good, think that the game should be catered to people of your skill, etc. etc.

It's because what happened to them, I suppose. I'm guilty of that behaviour in the past, too. I got arrogant when I got some good games and higher ranking N7. To my defense, I got over it.

So people might think (at least subconciously) that someone who is excellent must be much more arrogant.

[Beta Commando]

Simple, be a douchebag to everyone.

[Cyonan]

Ryumanjisen wrote...

I'm not precisely an avid reader of these forums, but I have yet to see someone who blatantly look down on other players. Sure, there's a lot of bragging and arguing about what's an exploit or not, which classes are better (I don't like to use the "OP" word in a cooperative game) than others and all that jazz.

But a true "elitist jerk"? As I said, I haven't seen one. Perhaps I should pay more attention to this forum, who knows.

I've seen some stuff that comes off at being a bit elitist, though nothing that's full on elitist jerk(they'd probably have been banned by now for insulting everybody who isn't them).

Those people who got butthurt over Lone Wolf not being "earned" by people who used a Kroguard against the Geth is pretty elitist, imo.

[drmoose00]

demand that powerful weapons and characters  be nerfed or removed

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

Ryumanjisen wrote...

Elite: A group of people considered to be the best in a particular society or category, esp. because of their power or talent.

So, being part of the "people considered to be the best" is bad? I'm afraid we have more jealous people, than elitists, here.

That's not technically the definition of "elitest".

It doesn't actually mean the most "elite" of the "elites" (although that would be funny.)

Also, it is often misused in BSN Multiplayer forums to mean "arrogant", which is not technically what it means, either.

[STRANGE10VE]

Elite-noun- The choice part.  The best of a class.

Elitist-adjective- Being or characteristic of a person who has an
offensive air of superiority and tends to ignore or  disdain anyone
regarded as inferior.

If you want to be elite op, get really good at the game.  If you want to be elitist, play call of duty.

[cowwy]

You have to completely misunderstand what the term elitist means.

[FasterThanFTL]

lemon00 wrote...

demand that powerful weapons and characters  be nerfed or removed

This

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

cowwy wrote...

You have to completely misunderstand what the term elitist means.

Good point. For the sake of having it out there:

Elitism is the belief that people deserve special privelege or treatment because of perceived superiority in intellect, skill, or knowledge.

[STRANGE10VE]

Lord_Sirian wrote...

STRANGE10VE wrote...

If you want to be elite op, get really good at the game.  If you want to be elitist, play call of duty.

 

 Generalisations bro.

Maybe, but I think one could learn a lot more about elitists from that games community.

Modifié par STRANGE10VE, 03 février 2013 - 08:17 .

[Kalas747]

TheCandlejack wrote...

Be part of S.p.E.c.T.R.E. X. Instant hate from everyone on the forum is guaranteed.

Like myself, I have a sneaking suspicion that most people don't even know what  S.p.E.c.T.R.E. X. is????

But in response to the topic, carry some pugs and then post your score on BSN.  Play only platinum and talk about it every chance you get.  You know, the fact that you ONLY play platinum.  Wowwww, cool. 

In general, just be the Kevin Federline of BSN and walk around with a completely unjustified sense of accomplishment.   Make sure and forget that most people don't even know or care who you are and your youtube videos have maybe 100 views at the MAXIMUM.

Modifié par Kalas747, 03 février 2013 - 08:11 .

[Feneckus]

STRANGE10VE wrote...

If you want to be elitist, play call of duty.

Elitism in Call of Duty ?