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[Wanderer_Jones]

Lately, I have read a a few things on Miranda Lawson staing that she is a boring character.  While I partly agree, I have to say she is not the dullest crewmate.  I mean, look at Zaeed.<_<  He has no personality what so ever other than some tough guy.  At least she has feelings, troubles, and she cares about her sister.  Although, the only reason I would romance her are for some genetically-enchanced super-soldier children.

[The Night Mammoth]

Alright.

Not the best, not the worst. Fills a pretty interesting roll in ME2, and then becomes completely boring in ME3.

[Lenimph]

... She can't have kids...

[Leem_0001]

I liked Miranda, and thought she had an interesting story arc.

Funny thing is, the only squadmate in ME2 I didn't really like was Jack - but I am really glad she was in the game. Its interesting but I just didn't like her personality, she bugged me, but I was still glad she was there. She clashed with my Shep and made things interesting. I thought her story was done well and she definately had a place. This is one of the areas where, I feel, ME3 fell down. Even if I didn't like a character in the previous ME games, I understood their place.

With ME3, and Vega in particular, I didn't find out enought to dislike him. He was just - meh. A none entity. And that is a big failing I feel.

[abch4]

Indifference sums it up I think. Just a bit generic and bland for my tastes

[Xellith]

I actually like Zaeed. I just hate the Zaeed dialogue in ME2 where you stand there playing with the trash compactor while he talks. ME3 is more or less the same in that regard.. only there is no trash compactor to play with while the crew talks amongst themselves ; ;

But I dunno. I find that her character lacks any real substance. Shes interesting to a degree, but at the end of the day shes fairly predictable in what shes gonna say and/or do. Very generic. 

Now Jacob.. he was boring. Im not even saying that to pick on Jacob. I liked him as a character, but I still felt that he was kinda boring. "Tim Nice But Dim" one might call him.

Modifié par Xellith, 03 février 2013 - 06:52 .

[DoodlyDangus]

I'm okay with her. I don't hate her, but I don't adore her either.

[Wanderer_Jones]

The Night Mammoth wrote...

Alright.

Not the best, not the worst. Fills a pretty interesting roll in ME2, and then becomes completely boring in ME3.

True, although it was pretty beast when she owned her dad.

[Belisarius25]

I like her in ME2 and wish she had become the Shadow Broker instead of Liara. I'm not as big a fan of her as others on the forum, but I think she's still pretty interesting.

In ME3 her plot is...uh...pretty bad. I mean, did they really have to go back to the "My dad is evil/have to save my sister" plot line? It wasn't that interesting in ME2 either.

I am glad to see I'm not the only one who isn't a fan of Zaeed though!

Modifié par Belisarius25, 03 février 2013 - 06:54 .

[N7-RedFox]

I like Miranda. She cares about her loved ones, can kick ass on the battlefield and is hot as hell. What's not to like?

[The Night Mammoth]

Nyan51 wrote...

The Night Mammoth wrote...

Alright.

Not the best, not the worst. Fills a pretty interesting roll in ME2, and then becomes completely boring in ME3.

True, although it was pretty beast when she owned her dad.

That part I liked.

[Wanderer_Jones]

Xellith wrote...

I actually like Zaeed. I just hate the Zaeed dialogue in ME2 where you stand there playing with the trash compactor while he talks. ME3 is more or less the same in that regard.. only there is no trash compactor to play with while the crew talks amongst themselves ; ;

But I dunno. I find that her character lacks any real substance. Shes interesting to a degree, but at the end of the day shes fairly predictable in what shes gonna say and/or do. Very generic. 

Now Jacob.. he was boring. Im not even saying that to pick on Jacob. I liked him as a character, but I still felt that he was kinda boring. "Tim Nice But Dim" one might call him.

I agree, but I think BioWare was trying to make Jacob like that.  You know, soldier with a good heart that can kick-ass.  Than again, I liked James Vega more...

[JBPBRC]

The Night Mammoth wrote...

Alright.

Not the best, not the worst. Fills a pretty interesting roll in ME2, and then becomes completely boring in ME3.

This. Not the best in ME2, but decent enough. Horrible in ME3, like many other things.

[Wanderer_Jones]

N7-RedFox wrote...

I like Miranda. She cares about her loved ones, can kick ass on the battlefield and is hot as hell. What's not to like?

Very true, but when you compare her to the other female crew members, it feels like she becomes, in the words of Jack,  a 'Cheerleader'.

[Ieldra]

Belisarius25 wrote...
I like her in ME2 and wish she had become the Shadow Broker instead of Liara.

Exactly that is what I wanted. Instead they character-assassinated Liara to give her the role. Pfft.

In ME3 her plot is...uh...pretty bad. I mean, did they really have to go back to the "My dad is evil/have to save my sister" plot line?

I think Miranda is the most interesting character of ME2, but what they did with her in ME3 is a shame. No connection (or only an accidental one) to the Cerberus plot, no presence on Cronos station - how fitting it would've been had her story ended where it began? Then the rehash of her loyalty mission, her fight against Kai Leng, which could've made her appearance impressive, happening only off-screen and turning her into a generic good gal, to say nothing if the insinuations in her extended death scene. It's enraging.

I guess compared with the other ME2 team members, it isn't too bad, but her story potential was almost completely wasted. To have that happen to my favorite character is.....very disappointing.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 03 février 2013 - 07:01 .

[EpicBoot2daFace]

You never really get to know her. The conversations were often short and about her father or sister, but not much about Miranda herself.

Modifié par EpicBoot2daFace, 03 février 2013 - 07:01 .

[o Ventus]

Miranda is great. She's almost perfectly set up to be both a seductress and a femme fatale, but subverts both of those tropes with precision.

Not to mention that she's one of the few who isn't immediately enamored the second she meets Shepard. Knowing this from her introduction, it's a little strange how her skeptical side disappears when you first talk to her in her office on the Normandy.

I'm also fond of her romance. Shepard and Miranda... Flow together, for lack of a better term. How Shepard helps her overcome her insecurities about her upbringing and unravels her icy facade is touching.

Miranda being voiced by and modeled after Yvonne Strahovski is just a bonus.

Modifié par o Ventus, 03 février 2013 - 07:01 .

[Lawrence0294]

I probably have zero credibility as she is my favourite character.
But to me she is indeed one of the most interesting characters in the ME universe from the different thematics and ethical perspectives that arise from her creation, her character development through ME2 to ME3 (though not all perfect thank you bad writing), her time to time pragmatism, her vision of humanity etc.
And she also suits personalities often found in art films, especially from a french director called Robert Bresson.
So yea to me she is an interesting character.

[The Night Mammoth]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Belisarius25 wrote...
I like her in ME2 and wish she had become the Shadow Broker instead of Liara.

Exactly that is what I wanted. Instead they character-assassinated Liara to give her the role. Pfft.

You'd have to completely rewrite both characters. 

[teh DRUMPf!!]

Dull.

Interesting concept but they never really do much with it.

When it's all said and done, her character amounts to daddy-issues and her sister more than anything else.

[Wanderer_Jones]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Belisarius25 wrote...
I like her in ME2 and wish she had become the Shadow Broker instead of Liara.

Exactly that is what I wanted. Instead they character-assassinated Liara to give her the role. Pfft.

In ME3 her plot is...uh...pretty bad. I mean, did they really have to go back to the "My dad is evil/have to save my sister" plot line?

I think Miranda is the most interesting character of ME2, but what they did with her in ME3 is a shame. No connection (or only an accidental one) to the Cerberus plot, no presence on Cronos station - how fitting it would've been had her story ended where it began? Then the rehash of her loyalty mission, her fight against Kai Leng, which could've made her appearance impressive, happening only off-screen and turning her into a generic good gal, to say nothing if the insinuations in her extended death scene. It's enraging.

I guess compared with the other ME2 team members, it isn't too bad, but her story potential was almost completely wasted. To have that happen to my favorite character is.....very disappointing.

If there is one thing other than the ending that Mass Effect 3 did not exactly get was the connection between the plots that occuredin Mass Effect 2.  Bioware still did a pretty good job.

[ShadyKat]

Never understood why people dumped on Jacob and Kaiden for being bori g, yet ignored Miranda. Yes, she is indeed boring and lacks personality. I guess her rather large "assests" makes people not notice.

[xelander]

With Mordin and Legion, she makes the top 3 of Most Interesting Characters in ME. Once you get over the 2 in-your-face butt cinematics in ME2.

In ME3 her character self-destructed. But that happened with the whole ME franchise, so I tend to ignore part 3.