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Miranda Lawson: Dull or Interesting Character?


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I vehemently disagree with Miranda being a boring character.

I personally think she is the best squadmate in the entire trilogy.

Professionally, she represents the person who believes in the greater good and accomplishes that through necessary ruthlessness.

She's engineered for physical perfection, and in more than one way. I find it interesting with how she can come to terms with that sort of 'synthetic' organic background.

On a romantic level, she isn't gushing her heart out like the other LI's at Shepard's stature - she looks at everything he's done and says a sarcastic 'that's all?' Both she and Shepard are sophisticated and complex characters if you so choose, and they fit each other perfectly.

She is in my opinion, not just the best romance option for Shepard, but the only romance option.

Miranda is a mystery woman, and along with her incredible physical attractiveness (in no small part to Yvonne Strahovski, my own celebrity crush) embodies all that I want in a woman.

And her Australian nationality makes her that much more desirable.

My list of fictional women that kinda/sorta show the type of woman I'm into.  My list for the ideal women

1) Miranda Lawson (Mass Effect)
2) Sarah Walker (Chuck: also Yvonne Strahovski)
3) Bastila Shan (KotOR)
4) Hannah McKay (Dexter: also YS)
5) Emma Frost (X-Men)
6) Vesper Lynd (Casino Royale)
7) Mara Jade (Star Wars Expanded Universe)

Also I don't think Miranda's infetility will long stop her from having kids. She did bring a man back from death afterall.

Modifié par fiendishchicken, 03 février 2013 - 08:05 .


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ShadyKat wrote...

Never understood why people dumped on Jacob and Kaiden for being bori g, yet ignored Miranda. Yes, she is indeed boring and lacks personality. I guess her rather large "assests" makes people not notice.


Haha, yeah.  Although Kaiden's accent was kinda cool.

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Fantastic character. Real shame they gave her a complete rehash of her ME2 loyalty mission for a role in ME3 rather than the role she deserved in the Cerberus arc.

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"Also I don't think Miranda's infetility will long stop her from having kids. She did bring a man back from death afterall."

Surely that would be an inconsistency mega plot hole that Bioware should be chastised for? SURELY!?

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I'm not a big fan of Miranda, although in my first playthrough ever of ME 2 she died and I was a little upset about it, she comes across pretty dull and kind of lame to me.

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hallidio wrote...

"Also I don't think Miranda's infetility will long stop her from having kids. She did bring a man back from death afterall."

Surely that would be an inconsistency mega plot hole that Bioware should be chastised for? SURELY!?


Given how Miranda's infertility is something that can be fixed with our own modern medicine, I'm going to go with "no".

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Miranda is a great character. Not boring at all. She is probably the only person I'd ever romance other than Ash.

You want boring, go take a look at Jacob or the DLC characters for ME2

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HYR 2.0 wrote...

Dull.

Interesting concept but they never really do much with it.

When it's all said and done, her character amounts to daddy-issues and her sister more than anything else.


True, it's sad how the whole genetic engineering and clone thing is just used as a bit point for daddy issue plots.

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Miranda > all character in the ME3 universe.


BRING BACK THE MIRANDA WARS.

Modifié par DinoSteve, 03 février 2013 - 07:36 .


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DinoSteve wrote...

Miranda > all character in the ME3 universe.


BRING BACK THE MIRANDA WARS.

Dear god no... would really like this part of the forum to stay open.

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Miranda Wars?

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Nyan51 wrote...

Miranda Wars?


I guess that's a term people are using to explain why the Romance forum was shut down. I hear it had something to do with Miranda.

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Giga Drill BREAKER

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l7986 wrote...

DinoSteve wrote...

Miranda > all character in the ME3 universe.


BRING BACK THE MIRANDA WARS.

Dear god no... would really like this part of the forum to stay open.


They where funny.

Modifié par DinoSteve, 03 février 2013 - 07:47 .


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Miranda is the victim princess..and good at it.

I liked the character, but was frustrated to find that no information about resurrection was forthcoming via pillow talk.. oh well.

(stupid writers ;)

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DinoSteve wrote...

l7986 wrote...

DinoSteve wrote...

Miranda > all character in the ME3 universe.


BRING BACK THE MIRANDA WARS.

Dear god no... would really like this part of the forum to stay open.


They where funny.

Only caught a tiny glimpse of them as I stuck to the Tali thread, but from the little I saw, they were funny as hell.

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She's like "me, me, me then me, my sister, my evil dad, me, me"

Boring char, the only reason she's popular it's because dat ass.

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JBPBRC wrote...

Nyan51 wrote...

Miranda Wars?


I guess that's a term people are using to explain why the Romance forum was shut down. I hear it had something to do with Miranda.


Just read a little bit of the Miranda Wars..
Wow, I am a human being...:blink:

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l7986 wrote...

DinoSteve wrote...

l7986 wrote...

DinoSteve wrote...

Miranda > all character in the ME3 universe.


BRING BACK THE MIRANDA WARS.

Dear god no... would really like this part of the forum to stay open.


They where funny.

Only caught a tiny glimpse of them as I stuck to the Tali thread, but from the little I saw, they were funny as hell.

. They weren't funny to us

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She wasn't a dull character. There just wasn't enough about her in any of the games.

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I like Miranda. Used her along with Zaeed all the time in ME2

She is very useful against all enemies(warp and overload)

as someone else mentioned, I would've prefer that Miranda become the shadow broker

it sucks she wasn't a squadmate in ME3

Modifié par themikefest, 03 février 2013 - 07:54 .


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o Ventus wrote...

hallidio wrote...

"Also I don't think Miranda's infetility will long stop her from having kids. She did bring a man back from death afterall."

Surely that would be an inconsistency mega plot hole that Bioware should be chastised for? SURELY!?


Given how Miranda's infertility is something that can be fixed with our own modern medicine, I'm going to go with "no".

Meaning it already is a plot hole. The infertility was introduced by someone who had no idea of how medical technology could develop in an SF universe, just to send an annoying traditionalist message about the supposed evils of genetic engineering. As I see it, Miranda would know that her condition can be reversed or circumvented. I came up with a few ideas within a few hours after I read the dossier, and all of those either already are or aren't far from being reality in the real world. And I'm not as smart as Miranda.

themikefest wrote...
it sucks she wasn't a squadmate in ME3

Yeah, but I could've lived with it had her content lived up to her plot potential. In fact, I like the idea of a story arc running parallel with Shepard's where you meet her here and there. It's just that they did nothing with it but rehash her family issues. She was Cerberus 2IC damn it, she deserved a prominent role in the main plot. 

Modifié par Ieldra2, 03 février 2013 - 07:58 .


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I like her. There's no problem with characters being ideological or having a strong sense of morality. If she's bland, she's bland. To me, she has a generic personality, it doesn't make her a bad character, or uninteresting. Hell, not all my friends have the strongest personalities but they're still my friends.

In ME3 her character self-destructed. But that happened with the whole ME franchise, so I tend to ignore part 3.


Errr... how?

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I loved her in 2: brilliant, capable, and deeply desiring to do good, but also abrasive and sometimes cruel. In 3: well, only old affection and some decent EC content prevents me from rooting for Kai Leng. I hate what she became: a myopic, weak,. emotionally stunted woman I'm supposed to praise for not being a sociopath.

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Long story short:
ME2 Miranda: interesting, with potential for antiCerberus story arc in following game
ME3 Miranda: dull, lost a lot of her edge, sidelined

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N7Infernox wrote...

Long story short:
ME2 Miranda: interesting, with potential for antiCerberus story arc in following game
ME3 Miranda: dull, lost a lot of her edge, sidelined


I wouldn't quite call her dull in ME3, but her character arc was perhaps the biggest missed opportunity for a character in the game.

The writers did that to all the ME2 characters really.

Even some of the squadmates to a certain extent as I understand it.

The VS (Even though I utterly loathe Ashley with the burning passion of a thousand flaming suns going supernova at once) in particular was badly handled. 

Kaidan got an ok deal, but due to cut content, Ashley did get the short end of the stick.

The focus was on the newer characters. And Liara. God, was it on Liara.