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[vonSlash]

JaimasOfRaxis wrote...

vonSlash wrote...
Way to disprove the stereotype.

He does raise a point, however.

And he'd be much more likely to get that point across if he wasn't nearly-incoherent with rage about how this game has been handled. I agree with him inasmuch as there are still many bugs severe enough to warrant fixing and the apathy from Bioware about these bugs is irritating, but ranting about them to the devs doesn't create the dialogue necessary to pressure them to fix it - quite the opposite, in fact, as evidenced by Bryan's departure from the forums and the frequent dev accusations of entitlement. We as a community have been irate ever since the game launched, and even though such community displays of rage may indeed be justified and righteous at heart, they antagonize the devs and lead to a breakdown in communication - which has gotten us to where we are today: a stalemate where both sides are too busy criticizing and insulting each other to sit down and actually discuss in a serious and open manner the core problems with this game, the ways in which such problems might be fixed, and the obstacles that exist to implementing such solutions. If we had adopted a more patient outlook from the get-go, if the community had treated the devs with civility and the devs had treated the community with tolerance and patience, then we might not have reached the point where community members and devs have virtual shouting matches on the front page of the forums in lieu of actual discussion.

Modifié par vonSlash, 06 février 2013 - 04:01 .

[Eriseley]

JaimasOfRaxis wrote...

He does raise a point, however.

Um no, he's the equivalent of that retard at a cafe who complains about a cappucino having too much foam by insulting the entire staff's work ethic and berating them for not saying "yes massah all my fault massah" in response, then demanding to see the manager in order to complain that he was looked at funny. There is a difference between being a critical customer and an insufferable ****.

Modifié par Eriseley, 06 février 2013 - 04:16 .

[TheCrimsonSpire]

It's honestly disgusting seeing people abuse their ability to be anonymous, especially when it's to a developer, who doesn't have to be here to respond to anything. Bryan should be given respect for the work he's done, and any gripes you have shouldn't be blamed on him.

@ray12a You have the freaking nerve to waltz in here proclaiming failure by Bioware in the most hostile and aggressive manner possible, and expect what? You honestly think with that tone and way you come across, people are going to care what you have to say?! Go back to the hole where you came from, and learn a bit of humility now and again.

Also, you should feel bad after such a spectacular act of failure of trying to use a quote out of context like that. And yes, it WAS used out of context, Bryan quoted back the whole statement. He was remarking on the fact that the guy he was responding to, was implying that Bryan had made a poor product, not that Bryan was confirming it. But you know that already, you just took the opportunity to look like the worm you are to spread a lie about what a dev said. Shame on you. You disgust me. Get the hell out of here!

[LandoCalrisian]

One year on and the same jerks post the same tired crap. Love the fact that people with 300-500+ hours in a single-mode multiplayer that's had its content tripled with free updates pour the hate on Bioware/EA just because their own lives are so crappy and meaningless.

I think the best thing Bioware could do for the Mass Effect community at this point is lock all threads except for balance changes and announcements and let the negative ****es move their BS to reddit, or the gamespot forums or better yet sitting alone in a closet crying.

[JaimasOfRaxis]

vonSlash wrote...
And he'd be much more likely to get that point across if he wasn't nearly-incoherent with rage about how this game has been handled. I agree with him inasmuch as there are still many bugs severe enough to warrant fixing and the apathy from Bioware about these bugs is irritating, but ranting about them to the devs doesn't create the dialogue necessary to pressure them to fix it - quite the opposite, in fact, as evidenced by Bryan's departure from the forums and the frequent dev accusations of entitlement. We as a community have been irate ever since the game launched, and even though such community displays of rage may indeed be justified and righteous at heart, they antagonize the devs and lead to a breakdown in communication - which has gotten us to where we are today: a stalemate where both sides are too busy criticizing and insulting each other to sit down and actually discuss in a serious and open manner the core problems with this game, the ways in which such problems might be fixed, and the obstacles that exist to implementing such solutions. If we had adopted a more patient outlook from the get-go, if the community had treated the devs with civility and the devs had treated the community with tolerance and patience, then we might not have reached the point where community members and devs have virtual shouting matches on the front page of the forums.

Whilst that's true, analytically-speaking, the sudden level of vitriol did not occur in a vaccuum, vonSlash. As good Ryu was kind enough to point out, communication between the Devs and playerbase has been, for lack of a better term, a disaster, and you can't point at the angry, screaming userbase nor can one fully blame the devs blanketed with NDAs.

[TheCrimsonSpire]

JaimasOfRaxis wrote...

vonSlash wrote...
*Snip*

Whilst that's true, analytically-speaking, the sudden level of vitriol did not occur in a vaccuum, vonSlash. As good Ryu was kind enough to point out, communication between the Devs and playerbase has been, for lack of a better term, a disaster, and you can't point at the angry, screaming userbase nor can one fully blame the devs blanketed with NDAs.

And what? Do you think this type of behaviour improves anything in the future. All this entitled bull, does nothing but enforce a bad image on the community. You think Bryan is walking away right now, thinking "ya, that was a meaningful and enlightneing conversation I just had, definitely going to bring these concerns to co-workers back at the office now."
HELL NO! Also stop acting all passive aggressive with your "good Ryu" "kind Bryan", it's obvious and it's annoying.

[Cyonan]

JaimasOfRaxis wrote...

Whilst that's true, analytically-speaking, the sudden level of vitriol did not occur in a vaccuum, vonSlash. As good Ryu was kind enough to point out, communication between the Devs and playerbase has been, for lack of a better term, a disaster, and you can't point at the angry, screaming userbase nor can one fully blame the devs blanketed with NDAs.

Sure I can.

Look at what happened in this thread.

[vonSlash]

JaimasOfRaxis wrote...

vonSlash wrote...
And he'd be much more likely to get that point across if he wasn't nearly-incoherent with rage about how this game has been handled. I agree with him inasmuch as there are still many bugs severe enough to warrant fixing and the apathy from Bioware about these bugs is irritating, but ranting about them to the devs doesn't create the dialogue necessary to pressure them to fix it - quite the opposite, in fact, as evidenced by Bryan's departure from the forums and the frequent dev accusations of entitlement. We as a community have been irate ever since the game launched, and even though such community displays of rage may indeed be justified and righteous at heart, they antagonize the devs and lead to a breakdown in communication - which has gotten us to where we are today: a stalemate where both sides are too busy criticizing and insulting each other to sit down and actually discuss in a serious and open manner the core problems with this game, the ways in which such problems might be fixed, and the obstacles that exist to implementing such solutions. If we had adopted a more patient outlook from the get-go, if the community had treated the devs with civility and the devs had treated the community with tolerance and patience, then we might not have reached the point where community members and devs have virtual shouting matches on the front page of the forums.

Whilst that's true, analytically-speaking, the sudden level of vitriol did not occur in a vaccuum, vonSlash. As good Ryu was kind enough to point out, communication between the Devs and playerbase has been, for lack of a better term, a disaster, and you can't point at the angry, screaming userbase nor can one fully blame the devs blanketed with NDAs.

Even if ray12a's tone was precedented, that doesn't justify it, as such comments only intensify a problem that we'd all very much like to see resolved. Since the devs aren't willing to extend the metaphorical olive branch, it's up to the community to try and repair the dev-player relationship so that game issues can actually be discussed, and the first step in accomplishing that is to not scream at the devs every time they post in one of our threads.

[ValorOfArms777]

...this thread disturbs me...do much Dis..no wounder people nowadays are such doofs.. they want instant gratification.. instant everything..it takes time delicate work so on, patience is key, dealing with things is key...and yet all I hear is COMPLAIN COMPLAIN BLAME BLAME BLAME...it's okay to complain a tad...but to insult and post blame wanting instant fixes and changes...is asking for say me to hitch a boat to France with no hitch without a navigation info or idea how to do it and grab a bag-get and then find my way back, it's just outrageous how allot of people are acting... lay off and let them do what they can and be nice about it at least he nicely talks to us and explains what he can

Modifié par ValorOfArms777, 06 février 2013 - 04:36 .

[JaimasOfRaxis]

TheCrimsonSpire wrote...

And what? Do you think this type of behaviour improves anything in the future. All this entitled bull, does nothing but enforce a bad image on the community. You think Bryan is walking away right now, thinking "ya, that was a meaningful and enlightneing conversation I just had, definitely going to bring these concerns to co-workers back at the office now."
HELL NO! Also stop acting all passive aggressive with your "good Ryu" "kind Bryan", it's obvious and it's annoying.

Unlike many users on this forum, I can actually be respectful of other users and peoples' opinions, so I apologize if my doing so, typically by using somewhat antiquated verbiage, offends you. That is not the intent.

For a moment, however, let's analyze this whole situation. For the moment, let's ignore the obvious right now - that Bryan himself slipped up a bit and sank to Ray12's level (we're all human here) in calling someone out - and instead focus on the the issue of communication. You say that the aggression people are exhibiting is enforcing a "bad view of the community," but let me ask you a question, Spire: when things like the Geth go unfixed for several months, when things like the Collector PS3 Freeze issue go basically under the radar, and when the community has discovered more bugs than QA testing apparently did - do these things imply that what is happening is community issues being addressed?

The answer, of course, is that it implies the opposite - which is where a huge wellspring of this negative attitude you so despise comes from. It's lamentable that so many people are so angry about it, but the simple fact of the matter is that the evidence itself strongly suggests the very argument I warned of in both the first post and the ones that followed it: that the combination of lack of dev response on issues, poor reaction speed to given issues, and a playerbase that cares that damned much was going to result in exactly the sort of perfect storm we have now.

No one party is to blame for all of this - the Devs, the community, the Publisher, and more all bear blame on some level or another  - but in terms of who bears the most guilt, the community honestly ranks relatively low, since, by all accounts, they're not the ones in charge.

Again, it's regrettable that Bryan takes so much flak for this, and it sucks that he has to deal with posts having a lot of vitriol, but with the game in its current state, and Bryan being a QA guy, this kind of response was literally inevitable, and given people's feelings on this (which I warned about repeatedly, mind), this is something that by all accounts, all should have been ready for.

Modifié par JaimasOfRaxis, 06 février 2013 - 04:39 .

[JaimasOfRaxis]

Cyonan wrote...

Sure I can.

Look at what happened in this thread.

Touche, though on retrospect I probably should have suspected we'd hit that level sooner.

* Sigh *

[ValorOfArms777]

JaimasOfRaxis wrote...

TheCrimsonSpire wrote...

And what? Do you think this type of behaviour improves anything in the future. All this entitled bull, does nothing but enforce a bad image on the community. You think Bryan is walking away right now, thinking "ya, that was a meaningful and enlightneing conversation I just had, definitely going to bring these concerns to co-workers back at the office now."
HELL NO! Also stop acting all passive aggressive with your "good Ryu" "kind Bryan", it's obvious and it's annoying.

Unlike many users on this forum, I can actually be respectful of other users and peoples' opinions, so I apologize if my doing so, typically by using somewhat antiquated verbiage, offends you. That is not the intent.

For a moment, however, let's analyze this whole situation. For the moment, let's ignore the obvious right now - that Bryan himself slipped up a bit and sank to Ray12's level (we're all human here) in calling someone out - and instead focus on the the issue of communication. You say that the aggression people are exhibiting is enforcing a "bad view of the community," but let me ask you a question, Spire: when things like the Geth go unfixed for several months, when things like the Collector PS3 Freeze issue go basically under the radar, and when the community has discovered more bugs than QA testing apparently did - do these things imply that what is happening is community issues being addressed?

The answer, of course, is that it implies the opposite - which is where a huge wellspring of this negative attitude you so despise comes from. It's lamentable that so many people are so angry about it, but the simple fact of the matter is that the evidence itself strongly suggests the very argument I warned of in both the first post and the ones that followed it: that the combination of lack of dev response on issues, poor reaction speed to given issues, and a playerbase that cares that damned much was going to result in exactly the sort of perfect storm we have now.

No one party is to blame for all of this - the Devs, the community, the Publisher, and more all bear blame on some level or another  - but in terms of who bears the most guilt, the community honestly ranks relatively low, since, by all accounts, they're not the ones in charge.

Again, it's regrettable that Bryan takes so much flak for this, and it sucks that he has to deal with posts having a lot of vitriol, but with the game in its current state, and Bryan being a QA guy, this kind of response was literally inevitable, and given people's feelings on this (which I warned about repeatedly, mind), this is something that by all accounts, all should have been ready for.

We can't really blame highly on Devs but more on the fact the community should back off from being "jerks" demanding more than they can "give" in timely manner <_<, being in the basics of it all they might be working pretty hard on these issues but are having hard time to fix it also keep in mind, it costs time to which equates to money btw, thats how most things work it takes time, money and hard work in all of this along with "okay marks" to move ahead in certain areas which none of us can "see" as it's how development proccesses work most people demand so much and want it all "now" but ...in truth some problems are either unfixable or...extremly hard to fix I mean list me a game that does not have it's form of glitches notably MP games can have even more than even singular player games

[Slother93]

Since this game has been released I've put 8.5% of my life into playing it. If it wasn't a quality product I wouldn't have done that. Is it perfect? Far from it. Is it good enough? Damn right it is.

I for one appreciate the effort the devs put into the game and into communicating with us in this forum. To anyone bashing them - remember it's just a game. You are supposed to have fun. If you can't have fun because of this or that bug, I'm sorry. It's probably time for you to move along to something else. You are entitled to your opinion, but you come across as a raving lunatic when you go off on Bryan like we've seen here in this thread.

[ValorOfArms777]

Slother93 wrote...

Since this game has been released I've put 8.5% of my life into playing it. If it wasn't a quality product I wouldn't have done that. Is it perfect? Far from it. Is it good enough? Damn right it is.

I for one appreciate the effort the devs put into the game and into communicating with us in this forum. To anyone bashing them - remember it's just a game. You are supposed to have fun. If you can't have fun because of this or that bug, I'm sorry. It's probably time for you to move along to something else. You are entitled to your opinion, but you come across as a raving lunatic when you go off on Bryan like we've seen here in this thread.

...Exactly my point 

[JaimasOfRaxis]

Well, that does go without saying, Valor - more people need to learn common courtesy. We're not getting anywhere if certain parties are acting like drunken Vorcha. But that's not going to happen overnight.

In Much Sadder News: I regret to inform you all that I was recently notified that the Missile Glitch is still alive and well, in spite of the patch. It seems Macros and certain weapon loadouts can still trigger it, as evidenced by a platinum run I had this morning in which a player had it going for several minutes before dying, not being revived, and ragequitting. I had thought it to be an isolated incident, but according to a friend I had who encountered someone with the same loadout, it is, indeed, still possible.

I am disappoint.

Modifié par JaimasOfRaxis, 06 février 2013 - 04:53 .

[ValorOfArms777]

JaimasOfRaxis wrote...

Well, that does go without saying, Valor - more people need to learn common courtesy. We're not getting anywhere if certain parties are acting like drunken Vorcha. But that's not going to happen overnight.

In Much Sadder News: I regret to inform you all that I was recently notified that the Missile Glitch is still alive and well, in spite of the patch. It seems Macros and certain weapon loadouts can still trigger it, as evidenced by a platinum run I had this morning in which a player had it going for several minutes before dying, not being revived, and ragequitting.

I am disappoint.

meh if they need a macro they already broke a rule nto supposed to use third party sources notably and it means it's not plausable without a macroing which will mark it down to almost inhuman abilites to even use it which isn't "terrible" news just a bit sad at least the patch fixed this issue for Xboxers and otehr sorts and PC already had it's glamour of cheaters through other means I mean there is always some cheapo way to "cheat" it's our responsability to (report) them and be (honest) players

and btw wanna know somethgin really sad..I'm a very anti social person born with a mental disability called autism and I have more "common courtesy" than most of these people...makes me kinda sick being a human being some days 

Modifié par ValorOfArms777, 06 février 2013 - 04:57 .

[JaimasOfRaxis]

ValorOfArms777 wrote...

meh if they need a macro they already broke a rule nto supposed to use third party sources notably and it means it's not plausable without a macroing which will mark it down to almost inhuman abilites to even use it which isn't "terrible" news just a bit sad at least the patch fixed this issue for Xboxers and otehr sorts and PC already had it's glamour of cheaters through other means I mean there is always some cheapo way to "cheat"

and btw wanna know somethgin really sad..I'm a very anti social person born with a mental disability called autism and I have more "common courtesy" than most of these people...makes me kinda sick being a human being some days 

Programmable controllers can do it too. So can secondary lag manipulation.

Also, kudos to you.

[ValorOfArms777]

JaimasOfRaxis wrote...

ValorOfArms777 wrote...

meh if they need a macro they already broke a rule nto supposed to use third party sources notably and it means it's not plausable without a macroing which will mark it down to almost inhuman abilites to even use it which isn't "terrible" news just a bit sad at least the patch fixed this issue for Xboxers and otehr sorts and PC already had it's glamour of cheaters through other means I mean there is always some cheapo way to "cheat"

and btw wanna know somethgin really sad..I'm a very anti social person born with a mental disability called autism and I have more "common courtesy" than most of these people...makes me kinda sick being a human being some days 

Programmable controllers can do it too. So can secondary lag manipulation.

Also, kudos to you.

Majority of players woudn't be doing this unless they really wanna hardcore cheat...funnier when these people get banned cause they just lost investment and time 

Modifié par ValorOfArms777, 06 février 2013 - 05:05 .

[UnRestrikted]

Just do what I do when redundant constructive criticism for a better gameplay experience doesn't work: Play another game.

[khannoir]

ValorOfArms777 wrote...

Slother93 wrote...

Since this game has been released I've put 8.5% of my life into playing it. If it wasn't a quality product I wouldn't have done that. Is it perfect? Far from it. Is it good enough? Damn right it is.

I for one appreciate the effort the devs put into the game and into communicating with us in this forum. To anyone bashing them - remember it's just a game. You are supposed to have fun. If you can't have fun because of this or that bug, I'm sorry. It's probably time for you to move along to something else. You are entitled to your opinion, but you come across as a raving lunatic when you go off on Bryan like we've seen here in this thread.

...Exactly my point 

Agreed and to he who shall not be named....

There are no issues in this game I cant play through and ignore. O.k. so I'm not the best player yet, but evedently I'm better than you...at least in two respects. 1st If I have an issue I make a note of it and go on and enjoy the rest of the time I have to play. 2nd When I get my wee little feelings hurt because the mean old developers wont fix my pet peeves I don't show my **** to the public world. So yea... this is a public forum but you have access to it at the discression of the hosts, aka Bioware, and just like a public bar that you paid to get into and spent 1000$ on a tab... you act like too much of a fool and they are within their rights to ask you to leave. I for one wouldnt miss you because I beleive your absence would make this board a better place considering the condescending tone you have taken with Brojo and others.

tl;dr the game may annoy but ti isnt broke, get overyourself, be respectful

[RedJohn]

ray12a wrote...
Your game sucks. I bought it, I played it, I beat the **** out of it, I earned the right to say so. This isn't the problem.

Your work ethic sucks. We've paid you, we've encouraged you, we've gone so far as to do your QA jobs for you and play this inconsistent game enough times to find numerous problems -- only for you to come online and pass the buck 75% of the time, or fix a problem that results in several other problems 25% of the time. That is the problem.

Now, to entertain the least pressing issue (in good ol' BW spirit), my signature was NOT taken out of context. It appears exactly as you wrote it. You openly admit to yourself that this game is not a creature of quality, that it was "good enough," for you and that's how it shipped. You fail to realize that things like this define you in the eyes of others. Others like me, who bought your "good enough" product and have concluded that we disagree completely. It is not "good enough," it is a disaster. 

Now, to entertain the least pressing issue (in good ol' BW spirit), my signature was NOT taken out of context. It appears exactly as you wrote it. You openly admit to yourself that this game is not a creature of quality, that it was "good enough," for you and that's how it shipped. You fail to realize that things like this define you in the eyes of others. Others like me, who bought your "good enough" product and have concluded that we disagree completely. It is not "good enough," it is a disaster. And I kinda think you need to know, well, because you're probably going to make another franchise installment -- an installment I really hope is an artistic progression, not a haphazardly constructed series of strings and excuses.

Your signature is completely taken out of context unless you don't know what comprehensive reading is.

Besides, you call this game a dissaster for its bugs and the other problems, damn for your own sake I hope you never play Skyrim because the day you do you will probably jump out a cliff. I don't even know what do you do here if you think that the game is so bad or even a disaster as you said, because I would feel very stupid if I keep playing a game when I have that opinion about it.

Bryan Johnson comes here to explain tell us some of the things about bug, fixes etc and the only thing he gets back are opinions full of hate like that one which makes me feel ashamed of calling myself a gamer and a fan, have you ever been in another gamer forum like Bungie, Ubisoft, etc etc?, Developers do not interact with people as they do here

You need to cope with that reality or quit. Angry people from the Internet aren't going to disappear just because you don't like it, so grow up and get back to work.

I think the angry one sould grow up and learn that in gaming industry there won't be any game free of bugs, as I said above, you said this game is a disaster for its bugs, then why you play it ?, yes, you paid for it but talking in that way the only thing you will get is that everyone just ignore what you said because you already proved that you can't hold a civil discussion.

Your work ethic sucks. We've paid you, we've encouraged you, we've gone so far as to do your QA jobs for you and play this inconsistent game enough times to find numerous problems -- only for you to come online and pass the buck 75% of the time, or fix a problem that results in several other problems 25% of the time. That is the problem.

So we pay for a game and Developers have to do whatever we want with the game just because of it?

because if so, I demand 16 more volus for MP with the same power just because I paid for it.

And also I want the Claymore to take 50% of my shields every time I shot it, i demand it because I pay for it.

If we talk about patches or fixes that brings other problems then I invite you to point them out, because I am pretty sure they are not as many as you want it to look like.

The shadow strike thing?, yes, it happens on a game
Shield gate problem?, I tested it myself more times than I imagine, Shieldgate is working as well as healthgate, the ones that says it's broken it's probably because they don't know what is it or just lag.

Really, if you think this game is a disaster you must be pretty new in the gaming world, i've been playing for a lot of years and believe me when I tell you that this game is fine compared with others.






____________________________________________________________________________________


Mass Effect 3 MP has its bugs, yes, we all know about them and much more that nobody knows about, but we can't say this game is a completely mess because out there there are games much worse than this one.

I am not agree with all the things done here, i'm not agree with all balances etc, but if developers start to listen everyone's opinion then the game will be a big fail, because fans never know what they want, some people want the Vincator to be as good as a Harrier, I want a chainsaw and another one hate volus, so nobody here wants the same thing, that's why we have got the good diversity we have in this game.


About its issues, yes, it has, it has issues like any other videogame.

BioWare can't fix all the problems, maybe because it doesn't worth the investment because to fix something a big work and time have to be invested and the MP team has been reduced drastically to work on other projects like ME "4".

They have tried to give us a good product and sincerely i think they have done it, again yes, it needs some fixes, but no one can say that they haven't even tried or look for a solution, because i am pretty sure they have tried.

Also, I don't like when I see all the hostility again Developers, but i haven't seen another community where developers interact with fans like in this one and I bet that if they said something is not going to be fixed, is not because they don't want to do it.

And besides all of that, they come and play their game with us, in other companies, developers don't share with fans just for people like the one i quoted above, and because of that some games are just.......... meh, and yes, what I want to say is, people like that one have makes the industry much worse.


btw, just my opinion.

Modifié par RedJohn, 06 février 2013 - 05:52 .

[khannoir]

RedJohn wrote...
words...words..picture....words...more words

btw, just my opinion.

Sir, after that response I have an increased level of respect for you. Bravo.
(I really wish we could thum up responses to threads)

[crashmatusow]

Yep. We should obviously leave this game a broken piece of crap because mr. Claymore x w/ lvl4 consumables doesnt have any problems. Yep

In all seriousness the enemies are getting out of hand. Why are geth rocket troopers firing multiple rockets in a row? Why do praetorians fire lazers out their butts and have much larger aoe than visibly obvious? Etcetcetc

I want a semi-auto claymore with 4 round mag...

[Olvie]

What's wrong with the Geth? I love playing Geth, on any difficulty up to Platinum. I don't get a lot of the points mentioned.

Rather than making balance changes, Bioware should focus on fixing actual bugs.

Also I can't understand what people dislike about the current synckill. Yes, you are synckilled easily if you are too close to the enemy, but so what. I love my tanky Krogan dearly, but as soon as he gets too close to Banshees or Phantoms, he is vulnerable. But hey, isn't that the point of having agile and less agile characters? I rarely ever get synckilled with a character that can to rolls/jump.
Why change it? I'd rather have the "I'm staying in a container on Rio and can't be synckilled for no apparent reason"-bug fixed.

Modifié par Olvie, 06 février 2013 - 06:41 .

[Wookie_Smuggler]

Give them a break please. This is the first attempt at a Mass Effect 3 Multiplayer component, and for the most part it has been a success. Of course it'll have unforeseen bugs that are difficult to fix. If you're that upset about it maybe you shouldn't be playing video games, especially after all the free stuff they gave us.