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JaimasOfRaxis wrote...

Space Marine, Gears of War 1/2/3, Battlefield 3, Dark Sector, Perfect Dark, Front Mission Evolved, Command and Conquer: Renegade, and that's just the ones I can see from my desk. All of these either had accuracy penalties only for sniper weapons (Renegade, FME, Perfect Dark, Battlefield 3, Space Marine's Lascannon) or no penalty whatsoever for no-scoping (Gears, Space Marine's Stalker Bolter).


I think the only one on that list I've played is Perfect Dark(which I always used the Laptop Gun anyway).

Still though, plenty of guns go for the "still accurate but reduced damage" route.

One PvP game I play, Hawken, does this for the Sharpshooter Mech and I actually perfer that to having laughable accuracy since it means I can still reliably finish off wounded targets unscoped with a dual shot from both my guns.

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Distilled Poison wrote...

I think it's also pretty important to note that Collectors are entirely unplayable above silver on PS3. So at best you have 75% faction playability on PS3. Or 50% if you hate the Geth too.

That, combined with the horrible controls is why I haven't played in months.


No. I am mediocre at best, and even I can handle Collectors on Gold, much less Silver, LOLZ. I mean seriously, c'mon. Especially now that they have had their bugged combo damage resitance fixed.

Ugh, like I always say, I hate to be this guy, buuuuuut...

"l2p."

I feel awful.

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The missile glitch doesn't affect me (PC), even then, I'm happy it was fixed, not for me, for the people that have trouble with it.

Most things you are complaining are only your opinion on balance, and most don't require a patch, if this changes will even occur. Bioware have metrics on how often people defeat enemies that you say it's too hard, maybe, just maybe, most players don't have issue playing against this enemies.

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Bioware? I love you guys and gals. I love your games. I still love this MP.

But how long has Shockwave's radius evo been bugged on PC? I've heard more about a potential ME4 in the past 2 weeks than anything regarding long-standing issues such as this.

A perfect example of where frustration is coming from.

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I love the MP addition on this as well, but the OP's list is pretty spot on.

A lot of my frustrations come from the server system, having the player host is so annoying, in fact, if I hear of another MP addition that goes this route I will probably avoid it. If I didn't love the teamwork and ME universe so much I just wouldn't bother with it.

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palmof40sorrows wrote...

Distilled Poison wrote...

I think it's also pretty important to note that Collectors are entirely unplayable above silver on PS3. So at best you have 75% faction playability on PS3. Or 50% if you hate the Geth too.

That, combined with the horrible controls is why I haven't played in months.


No. I am mediocre at best, and even I can handle Collectors on Gold, much less Silver, LOLZ. I mean seriously, c'mon. Especially now that they have had their bugged combo damage resitance fixed.

Ugh, like I always say, I hate to be this guy, buuuuuut...

"l2p."

I feel awful.


Do note that Poison was talking about Collectors on Gold and above crashing the game on the PS3, not the difficulty.

But since you brought it up, I find all of these claims of "Collectors are so easy" to be laughable. Sure, it's easy to wipe out any enemy when they're not shooting at you or you just missile nuke their spawn, but having to fight them normally is a nightmare.
The Scion alone is a deal-breaker; incredibly accurate at sniper range, capable of downing almost any character with a full salvo, stunning players who get hit (which prevents them from returning fire or getting into cover, thus ensuring that they get hit by that full salvo), applying a DoT effect that prevents shield regeneration (so even if they survive the first salvo, their health won't have recovered before the second salvo begins, trapping them in cover), having a short cooldown between salvos that leaves only seconds for a player to safely return fire, capable of launching clusters of grenades when Posessed that stagger/down even players safely protected from the normal cannon, and to top it all off, they have a sync-kill for if you try to fight them in melee range.
An enemy with a few of those qualities can be managed through skill and strategy, but when all of them are put together, a player's only recourse is to either nuke it down fast or hope that the Scion decides to shoot at someone else. That's terrible balance, to the point where I would actually prefer to go back to fighting the ME2 Scion, as murderous as that itself was.

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Can I take a quick moment away from my lurking and just make a few quick statements? It'll just be a few small ones, I promise:

Folks, this is a video game.
Who the f*** cares so much about it they have to rant so badly on an internet forum? You aren't losing real money because of how this game operates when you play it. You aren't going to lose your job in real life because you get sync killed. You aren't going to be arrested by the police if you can't get out of a Geth stun lock. You aren't going to fail a test in school because Phantoms have on host DR.

Please stop complaining to BioWare, those who have brought us a great video game. You all come across as ungrateful, spoiled, and entitled. Enjoy the game for what it is.

A video game.

Modifié par Zero 48444, 04 février 2013 - 04:41 .


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Subjective

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Zero 48444 wrote...

Can I take a quick moment away from my lurking and just make a few quick statements? It'll just be a few small ones, I promise:

Folks, this is a video game.
Who the f*** cares so much about it they have to rant so badly on an internet forum? You aren't losing real money because of how this game operates when you play it. You aren't going to lose your job in real life because you get sync killed. You aren't going to be arrested by the police if you can't get out of a Geth stun lock. You aren't going to fail a test in school because Phantoms have on host DR.

Please stop complaining to BioWare, those who have brought us a great video game. You all come across as ungrateful, spoiled, and entitled. Enjoy the game for what it is.

A video game.


We care.  And, yes, Bioware cares...believe it or not!

To put it in terms that may make more sense to you: Because we *do* care, we may be a bit more picky in the future as to where our entertainment dollars go.

I don't have a lot of expendable cash these days.   A lot of us don't.  We expect quality and accountability as consumers, in return for the little bit of extra dough we have to spare.

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palmof40sorrows wrote...

No. I am mediocre at best, and even I can handle Collectors on Gold, much less Silver, LOLZ. I mean seriously, c'mon. Especially now that they have had their bugged combo damage resitance fixed.

Ugh, like I always say, I hate to be this guy, buuuuuut...

"l2p."

I feel awful


Wow dude. Did you not read my post at all, or could you just not understand it? It's best not to comment on things you don't understand. My post was clear and now you just look like a fool.

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-snerk-

So much...so much... just so much....

I just have to agree with what palmof40sorrows, I'm not the best player but I've played enough games and extracted enough times against collectors on all levels to say that they aren't bugged enough to complain about. Nor are any other faction "broken" beyond what can be easily dealt with by a good team. Solo might be a problem but the game wasn't MEANT to be solo... As far as the "penalty" goes for Sniper riffle... its base damage assumes you are scoped in, which would be a bonus for any other weapon its just displayed differently because of its unique nature. THE pressing issue was the missile glitcher plague, which if not cured as been dramatically curtailed, and I for one am thankful and couldn't care less if any of the issues in your wall o text were ever addressed.

believe me...this is the tl/dr I could have gone on and on but really what good.....

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Zero 48444 wrote...

You aren't losing real money because of how this game operates when you play it. You aren't going to lose your job in real life because you get sync killed. You aren't going to be arrested by the police if you can't get out of a Geth stun lock. You aren't going to fail a test in school because Phantoms have on host DR.


Oh, cool. Everyone, you can all pack up and go home. No one's getting arrested so clearly the game is perfect and above criticism. Clearly you're all entitled children for speaking your opinion and holding the object of your hobby to a standard of quality.

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Zero 48444 wrote...

Can I take a quick moment away from my lurking and just make a few quick statements? It'll just be a few small ones, I promise:

Folks, this is a video game.
Who the f*** cares so much about it they have to rant so badly on an internet forum? You aren't losing real money because of how this game operates when you play it. You aren't going to lose your job in real life because you get sync killed. You aren't going to be arrested by the police if you can't get out of a Geth stun lock. You aren't going to fail a test in school because Phantoms have on host DR.

Please stop complaining to BioWare, those who have brought us a great video game. You all come across as ungrateful, spoiled, and entitled. Enjoy the game for what it is.

A video game.


To be fair, criticizing a game is not neccessarily a bad thing. If we never told BioWare what we didn't like about their games they'd never know how to improve them in the future. It's an important thing for developers that allows them to give us more of the content that we enjoy. It's a win win situation.

Remember, a perfect game does not exist. Every game can be improved upon(I would even say this of what is in my opinion the best game ever made, Half-Life 1).

Though it's generally better if it's constructive(not entirely talking about OP here, just in general)

Modifié par Cyonan, 04 février 2013 - 04:54 .


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This thread needs more attention than other bs  people post here

Modifié par cubaka11, 04 février 2013 - 04:57 .


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Cyonan wrote...

To be fair, criticizing a game is not neccessarily a bad thing. If we never told BioWare what we didn't like about their games they'd never know how to improve them in the future. It's an important thing for developers that allows them to give us more of the content that we enjoy. It's a win win situation.

Though it's generally better if it's constructive(not entirely talking about OP here, just in general)


See, I agree with you.  If there is a huge glaring problem, yes, we tell the devs.  But what this forum suffers from are the people who feel they have the right to tell those at BioWare that they have to drop everything they're doing and fix what they think is wrong because they didn't or can't win at the game they are playing:  
sync kills killed me, fix them!
Phantoms stabbed me even though I shot them a lot!  They're OP!
(Insert gun here) out scored me/I don't have this gun!  Nerf it!

too many whiners, not enough legit complaints.  

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Zero 48444 wrote...

See, I agree with you.  If there is a huge glaring problem, yes, we tell the devs.  But what this forum suffers from are the people who feel they have the right to tell those at BioWare that they have to drop everything they're doing and fix what they think is wrong because they didn't or can't win at the game they are playing:  
sync kills killed me, fix them!
Phantoms stabbed me even though I shot them a lot!  They're OP!
(Insert gun here) out scored me/I don't have this gun!  Nerf it!

too many whiners, not enough legit complaints.  


That's pretty much every game forum ever, though. It's not ideal but it's also not likely to change any time soon.

Some people also would actually call Phantoms a legit complaint(Air Quotes for sure) as well. It being a legit complaint or not is a subjective thing. Either way they are actually bugged on-host with their damage reduction.

Who is the authority on what is or is not a legit complaint?

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Points aside, what a load of QQ. How exactly are you going to make demands of someone on how to handle THEIR property?

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I agree with the OP.

Just a little over 2 weeks until Crysis 3 is released :)

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Tyrannus00 wrote...

Points aside, what a load of QQ. How exactly are you going to make demands of someone on how to handle THEIR property?


Easy bud.  Money talks.

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I don't mind playing against the Collectors or any difficult enemy as long as it is a fair challenge. The Geth are not a fair challenge with the current mechanics.

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Most of the items in the OP seem to be design and style decisions, not bugs that require fixing.

And yeah, there are some real bugs. But I don't think any of them are deal breakers.

Overall, I think the game is very good, and I think Bioware has been outstanding with providing new and free content to keep me coming back to play. And yeah, I drop a few dollars in the store from time to time. They earned it (and I usually need gels).

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KiraTsukasa wrote...

I just love how people seem to think it takes a single button press to fix game code.

 

Nobody thinks that. Don't be obnoxious and holier-than-thou please.

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Lord_Sirian wrote...

KiraTsukasa wrote...

I just love how people seem to think it takes a single button press to fix game code.

 

Nobody thinks that. Don't be obnoxious and holier-than-thou please.


That makes me grin, coming from you.

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Cyonan wrote...

Zero 48444 wrote...

See, I agree with you.  If there is a huge glaring problem, yes, we tell the devs.  But what this forum suffers from are the people who feel they have the right to tell those at BioWare that they have to drop everything they're doing and fix what they think is wrong because they didn't or can't win at the game they are playing:  
sync kills killed me, fix them!
Phantoms stabbed me even though I shot them a lot!  They're OP!
(Insert gun here) out scored me/I don't have this gun!  Nerf it!

too many whiners, not enough legit complaints.  


That's pretty much every game forum ever, though. It's not ideal but it's also not likely to change any time soon.

Some people also would actually call Phantoms a legit complaint(Air Quotes for sure) as well. It being a legit complaint or not is a subjective thing. Either way they are actually bugged on-host with their damage reduction.

Who is the authority on what is or is not a legit complaint?


Cyonan, regarding phantoms & their DR, obviously I hate on them on host but I thought that their on host behaviour was considered by Bioware to be 'working as intended' and the lack of DR off-host was the issue. How are they bugged exactly?

@OP - this just reads like a subjective list of complaints and balance issues you have with the game, not actually objective mistakes, bugs or errors. Some of these things annoy me too but to say they should take priority over a missile glitch fix is mad. 

You also only briefly mention what should now be Biowares number one priority - the ps3 collector freezes. Everything else, from hipfire penalties, ARs being subpar, even geth stunlock are not nearly as important.

Modifié par cato_84, 04 février 2013 - 05:44 .


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KiraTsukasa wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...

KiraTsukasa wrote...

I just love how people seem to think it takes a single button press to fix game code.

 

Nobody thinks that. Don't be obnoxious and holier-than-thou please.


That makes me grin, coming from you.

 

I may be obnoxious but rarely do I act holier-than-thou. 

Acting like people don't know something that is common knowledge is probably one of the best ways to annoy them and make them say nasty things to you.