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[Jay tha Reaper]

This is why we can't have nice things!

[Blind2Society]

TheKillerAngel wrote...

Blind2Society wrote...

TheKillerAngel wrote...

What's your definition then?

Not sure about mine exactly but yours could just mean all the other guns suck. Being better than all other guns doesn't automatically make a weapon overpowered.

The situation you described is a pretty extreme case of a borked PvE metagame.

And in the case of this game, it happens to be true.

Modifié par Blind2Society, 04 février 2013 - 07:04 .

[january42]

Lord_Sirian wrote...

lol BE's. Yeah those give mad deepz brah.

I'm showing remarkable restraint here. I haven't used the word "idiot" to describe you yet.

Best way to play any power class is to alternate weapon fire with powers.  The reegar isn't really the best choice in that area unless you know your gonna be on Glacier or White.  You can do ok, but you won't be a top player with just unboosted weapon damage.

[me0120]

Dude, the Reeger sucks. It's heavy, has negative armor bonus (so what it's good against shields and barriers, so do all SMGs) with almost no range. Add that all into the fact that it slows movement speed while firing WITH a fire delay. That's a long list of negatives.
Fact of the matter is, the Reeger needs a buff.

[Arctican]

me0120 wrote...

Dude, the Reeger sucks. It's heavy, has negative armor bonus (so what it's good against shields and barriers, so do all SMGs) with almost no range. Add that all into the fact that it slows movement speed while firing WITH a fire delay. That's a long list of negatives.
Fact of the matter is, the Reeger needs a buff.

You realize this gun has the potential to one-clip bosses in a short time? 

[rcolol]

Yes buff the Reegar, let's return to Krysae to its original form while we're at it. Maybe a 35% damage buff and 100% ammo buff to the Harrier as well.



Edit: I'm really bad at picking up on sarcasm, but my point stands, the Reegar is overpowered in my opinion.

Modifié par MyWhiteNostrils, 04 février 2013 - 07:13 .

[Lord Rosario]

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Lord Rosario wrote...

Well, seeing that you're too absorbed in your own opinion to see any sort of reason besides pointing at a single thing and going "obvious troll for that bit right there" while ignoring the rest.. I think I'll just drop this. Have fun with your thoughts of my intelligence.

 

Anyone who thinks BE's come anywhere near the lolReegar in terms of TTK should not expect people to act as if there is nothing wrong with their intelligence. 

Your whole post was one giant mess of ignorance and betrayed how little you know about the game, and how badly you must play it when you do. Sorry.

No.. I was getting at how much SAFER it was for a squishy character to use BEs vs a Reeger thus you'd be doing far better because you are not dead. Yeah, Reeger does a ton of damage but it also requires you to get up in boss enemy faces to do so. A Reegar does no damage if it's handler is far away from the target, bleeding out, or dead.

Now, stop insulting me personally and bring up a new point.

[me0120]

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Arctican wrote...

me0120 wrote...

Dude, the Reeger sucks. It's heavy, has negative armor bonus (so what it's good against shields and barriers, so do all SMGs) with almost no range. Add that all into the fact that it slows movement speed while firing WITH a fire delay. That's a long list of negatives.
Fact of the matter is, the Reeger needs a buff.

You realize this gun has the potential to one-clip bosses in a short time? 

 

He is being facetious.

No purposely intelligent arguement starts with the word, "dude."

[me0120]

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Dude, but like, BE's... they do mad deepz bro. Acolyte Pull Reave > Reegar. Kills sooooooo fast. Turn enemies into walking bombs yo.

Did we go to highschool together?

[wartser]

Lord_Sirian wrote...

lol BE's. Yeah those give mad deepz brah.

I'm showing remarkable restraint here. I haven't used the word "idiot" to describe you yet.

I dunno what it is.  It's probably me, but a lot of the posts that I notice from you seem to belittle others' "lack of knowledge" just cuz they disagree with you.  Sometimes people just disagree.  Sometimes, the same set of facts can be interpreted to mean different things. 

Just to be clear, you are sometimes clearly right, but the way you say it is despicable.  In my book, saying that you're close to calling someone an idiot is equivalent to calling them an idiot.

[Arctican]

me0120 wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Arctican wrote...

me0120 wrote...

Dude, the Reeger sucks. It's heavy, has negative armor bonus (so what it's good against shields and barriers, so do all SMGs) with almost no range. Add that all into the fact that it slows movement speed while firing WITH a fire delay. That's a long list of negatives.
Fact of the matter is, the Reeger needs a buff.

You realize this gun has the potential to one-clip bosses in a short time? 

 

He is being facetious.

No purposely intelligent arguement starts with the word, "dude."

Lol, I read it too quick. 

[kaileena_sands]

 Can't even kill an unshielded Atlas in one cast clip.  Buff, please, BW.


On a more serious note, I agree with what was already said - the Reegar is strangely balanced - when you are newer, it's total crap since you'll die non stop trying to kill stuff with it. Once you become better though, it does become OP, especially with shredder/incendiary. But I don't mind it - I rarely see people playing with it at all these days, and I haven't touched it in months. But I should - because as long as you're not constantly using it, it's real fun to take it out for a spin once in a while.

Modifié par kaileena_sands, 04 février 2013 - 07:24 .

[Tybo]

 Some general points

A)  The Reegar is not at all dangerous to use if you've got any modicum of skill at this game, even on squishies.  It kills things so fast that you're rarely in danger.  Dead enemies don't shoot back.

 The Reegar is stupidly powerful.  It kills bosses orders of magnitude faster than other weapons.  It has a large enough clip to dispatch multiple mooks.  It's limitation of short range is not too much on a game with small maps and lots of soft cover.

C)  In a game with 4 good players, this does not mean that you will necessarily top score (unless you vanguard).  Players who shoot well can eliminate mooks before you reach them, which make up most of your points (on Gold).  But if you solo, or have to carry, or just need to down a boss by yourself, the Reegar will always provide you the easiest, fastest, time.  Unless you're really good at shooting

D) The gun is rather boring to use as well.  It basically turns any classes playstyle into using its powers to close the distance gap and then melting them with the Reegar.  Because all actions that are not melting the nearest, strongest enemy with the Reegar are vastly outclassed by using the Reegar

E)  It poorly rewards skill.  The damage is so high, headshots aren't needed.  It kills things so fast that the difference between killing a mook with headshots and killing it by only hitting half your body shots is around .1 seconds.

F)  Do what you like, I really don't care if someone uses the Reegar or not.  But even those liking it should be able to admit that it is extremely OP.

Modifié par tyhw, 04 février 2013 - 07:30 .

[me0120]

Arctican wrote...

Lol, I read it too quick. 

It made my it enjoyable. :happy:

If nothing else, I think my post was the only compilation of all the drawbacks of the weapon. They of course matter very little to the weapon's potential though. In reality the drawbacks are actually what dictates the way the Reeger is used, and helps Sirian's point that there is really only one general way to use a class equipped with it.

[Lord Rosario]

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Lord Rosario wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Lord Rosario wrote...

Well, seeing that you're too absorbed in your own opinion to see any sort of reason besides pointing at a single thing and going "obvious troll for that bit right there" while ignoring the rest.. I think I'll just drop this. Have fun with your thoughts of my intelligence.

 

Anyone who thinks BE's come anywhere near the lolReegar in terms of TTK should not expect people to act as if there is nothing wrong with their intelligence. 

Your whole post was one giant mess of ignorance and betrayed how little you know about the game, and how badly you must play it when you do. Sorry.

No.. I was getting at how much SAFER it was for a squishy character to use BEs vs a Reeger thus you'd be doing far better because you are not dead. Yeah, Reeger does a ton of damage but it also requires you to get up in boss enemy faces to do so. A Reegar does no damage if it's handler is far away from the target, bleeding out, or dead.

Now, stop insulting me personally and bring up a new point.

 

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Getting up close to the enemy... that sounds hard.

If only all the maps in this game were tiny. And if only the spawns were all predictable. And if only there was a cover system that you could use to get close to enemies without being able to be hit by them.

Oh wait, that sounds a bit familiar. 

So, gun is OP because you know exactly when and where the enemy will be and you're able to get to them in a quick manner before they can spread about. So the only thing you need to worry about at that point is how much damage the weapon spews. Yeah, there you go. That way, you don't even have to worry about anything besides a weapon's DPS.

That seems to be the root of most people who think a gun is OP when it isn't. Everything else is ignored. You have gotten to the point that you know the game so well that you only have to worry about DPS. Please, think outside your little box of all the other players that haven't achieved that.

[rcolol]

tyhw wrote...

F)  Do what you like, I really don't care if someone uses the Reegar or not.  But even those liking it should be able to admit that it is extremely OP.

There are still people who swear the original Krysae was fine as it was, people can't let go of 'Oh its co-op, it doesn't need balance'

Sure it has negative bonus against armor, but seriously, point, shoot, dead. Its a brainless weapon. Yes you have to get in close but if you understand how to use soft cover (mainly) its not a real problem to get within range and kill anything you aim at.