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[Hazegurl]

OP, I was also disappointed with how Morinth was handled. It would have been nice to save her from that fate and let her join the crew or crash on board the Normandy. I almost always pick her over Samara but recently I've scared her off instead.

[Solaxe]

They COULDN'T give Morinth a better treatment, because her VA was unavailable.

Get your facts straight people.

[Gervaise]

I'm not a Morinth fan but that is a lame excuse. You don't turn someone into a banshee just because their VA is not available and not off screen with no real explanation. At the very least, it should have been worked into the plot of the Monastery somehow. Still it's too late now and it is highly unlikely to be part of any DLC.

[Ageless Face]

Solaxe wrote...

They COULDN'T give Morinth a better treatment, because her VA was unavailable.

Get your facts straight people.

First: Says who?

Second: Mordin's VA was replaced. So was Kelly's. Why couldn't they do the same for Morinth?

[Ghost]

Earthbound N wrote...

I personally cannot stand Morinth. However, whilst I see her end as fitting and ironic, I can understand why her fans are annoyed with the lack of an alternative. No squadmate, even an optional one, should be sidelined like that. If it was one that I liked, I'd be annoyed too.

So for those reasons, this has my support, if BioWare saw it as a valuable application of time and resources. Besides, she certainly fits an apparent theme of the next DLC. (clubs and casinos)

Morinth is terrible.

[Ghost]

HagarIshay wrote...

Solaxe wrote...

They COULDN'T give Morinth a better treatment, because her VA was unavailable.

Get your facts straight people.

First: Says who?

Second: Mordin's VA was replaced. So was Kelly's. Why couldn't they do the same for Morinth?

Get a new voice actor for the 5% of people who saved her. Hell...more people had Kasumi than Morinth.

[fiendishchicken]

I agree with Morinth getting screwed.

However, they're unlikely to do anything about it.

The character's that people are advocating for more content are the core ME2 teammates, specifically Miranda, Jack, Thane, and Jacob, in that order.

People also want the revamped Priority: Earth mission as well. they really screwed that mission over. Plus some kind of further clarification on the endings, specifically destroy and refuse.

And the intro needs work as well.

[Ghost]

fiendishchicken wrote...

I agree with Morinth getting screwed.

However, they're unlikely to do anything about it.

The character's that people are advocating for more content are the core ME2 teammates, specifically Miranda, Jack, Thane, and Jacob, in that order.

People also want the revamped Priority: Earth mission as well. they really screwed that mission over. Plus some kind of further clarification on the endings, specifically destroy and refuse.

And the intro needs work as well.

I'm not sure about Jacob.

[Ageless Face]

Ghost1017 wrote...
Get a new voice actor for the 5% of people who saved her. Hell...more people had Kasumi than Morinth.

Yeah, and about 5% romanced Kelly. And they were the only ones who had her in their game.

Still she got a new VA, and more screen time than Morinth.

What exactly is the problem with getting a new VA anyway?

[Ghost]

HagarIshay wrote...

Ghost1017 wrote...
Get a new voice actor for the 5% of people who saved her. Hell...more people had Kasumi than Morinth.

Yeah, and about 5% romanced Kelly. And they were the only ones who had her in their game.

Still she got a new VA, and more screen time than Morinth.

What exactly is the problem with getting a new VA anyway?

I didn't romance Kelly and I had her in my game.

[Ageless Face]

Ghost1017 wrote...
I didn't romance Kelly and I had her in my game.

Then it's a bug. You don't suppose to have her unless you romanced her in ME2. Unless you romanced her by mistake, which then I'll accept to increase it to 6%.

[Animositisomina]

HagarIshay wrote...

Solaxe wrote...

They COULDN'T give Morinth a better treatment, because her VA was unavailable.

Get your facts straight people.

First: Says who?

Second: Mordin's VA was replaced. So was Kelly's. Why couldn't they do the same for Morinth?

If you want others to get their facts straight, you might consider doing the same. Kelly was voiced by the same actress in ME2 and ME3, Cara Pifko. She was not replaced.

Source:
http://www.imdb.com/...cter/ch0269774/

Modifié par Animositisomina, 04 février 2013 - 08:32 .

[Ageless Face]

Animositisomina wrote...
If you want others to get their facts straight, you might consider doing the same. Kelly was voiced by the same actress in ME2 and ME3, Cara Pifko. She was not replaced.

Source:
http://www.imdb.com/...cter/ch0269774/

I stand corrected then. My mistake.

But still my point stands. They could have easily replace the VA, and could also have added her to the small crowd who chose her.

[Volc19]

HagarIshay wrote...

Ghost1017 wrote...
I didn't romance Kelly and I had her in my game.

Then it's a bug. You don't suppose to have her unless you romanced her in ME2. Unless you romanced her by mistake, which then I'll accept to increase it to 6%.

She'll show up as long as she survived the CB, as far as I'm aware.

[Ageless Face]

Volc19 wrote...
She'll show up as long as she survived the CB, as far as I'm aware.

Nope

I'm not wrong on this one, at least.

Modifié par HagarIshay, 04 février 2013 - 08:39 .

[Animositisomina]

HagarIshay wrote...

Animositisomina wrote...
If you want others to get their facts straight, you might consider doing the same. Kelly was voiced by the same actress in ME2 and ME3, Cara Pifko. She was not replaced.

Source:
http://www.imdb.com/...cter/ch0269774/

I stand corrected then. My mistake.

But still my point stands. They could have easily replace the VA, and could also have added her to the small crowd who chose her.

Narrowing it down to Mordin and Morinth's VAs, it makes more sense to replace Mordin's VA because he had a much more important role in ME2 and ME3 than Morinth ever would have. Don't get me wrong, I had a couple playthroughs with Morinth as well and would've loved to see more of her, but considering how minor of a character she was (in comparison to characters like Mordin), it makes sense to me that replacing her VA wasn't as much of a priority.

[Hazegurl]

The dinner can be taken anyway. You can say you only had dinner with her and nothing else happened or you banged her all night. lol! Either way the dinner means she will show up even if you romanced someone else. My Shep had dinner with Kelly then romanced Miranda and Tali. I didn't get the strip dance at the end but she did show up in ME3 with no mention of a romance. A true romance with Kelly can happen in ME3 if Shep is single.

[Ageless Face]

Animositisomina wrote...
Narrowing it down to Mordin and Morinth's VAs, it makes more sense to replace Mordin's VA because he had a much more important role in ME2 and ME3 than Morinth ever would have. Don't get me wrong, I had a couple playthroughs with Morinth as well and would've loved to see more of her, but considering how minor of a character she was (in comparison to characters like Mordin), it makes sense to me that replacing her VA wasn't as much of a priority.

Did he really have more importance? It's all comes down to what BioWare is giving him. Mordin's replacement (forgot him name) is doing the same job as Mordin. Morinth could have just as big a role as Mordin with all the Banshees running around.

But anyway, I never expected her to have a big role. Certaintly not like Mordin. But even the DLC characters got a bigger cameo than she did (if you can even call it that...). Hell, even minor characters like Conrad Verver and Aethyta had more screentime.

So a squadmate implented in the vanilla game shouldn't get what she did. And certaintly not the fans.

[Seboist]

Poor Morinth was the victim of cutting corners.

[AlexMBrennan]

Right... You are surprised that the addicted-to-murder psychopath didn't stay around to help?

Plus, exactly how would you imagine the crew present in ME2 reacting to her dropping the masquerade?

Wrex murdered too. So did Thane, and Jack. Every squadmate we know and love killed.

Hang on just a sec there... You are assuming that I like any of the three characters and killing is not automatically murder.

You mean the Eclipse sister, who we know are only allowed to join after committing a murder? Who as a member of Eclipse was a moral-less killer for hire? Samara didn't just let her go? And after offering her a way out on numerous occasions? And who had just previously tried to kill Samara?

We don't summarily execute alleged criminals in the streets. If the criminal is unarmed and does not pose a threat, it's murder (unless you are in US)

Eclipse is a Mercenary gang. They're hired to kill, whether it's for a good cause or a bad one

Firstly Eclipse isn't necessarily hired to kill (e.g. They just provide security in Dantius Towers), and secondly our armed forces seem to manage just fine.

[Animositisomina]

HagarIshay wrote...

Animositisomina wrote...
Narrowing it down to Mordin and Morinth's VAs, it makes more sense to replace Mordin's VA because he had a much more important role in ME2 and ME3 than Morinth ever would have. Don't get me wrong, I had a couple playthroughs with Morinth as well and would've loved to see more of her, but considering how minor of a character she was (in comparison to characters like Mordin), it makes sense to me that replacing her VA wasn't as much of a priority.

Did he really have more importance? It's all comes down to what BioWare is giving him. Mordin's replacement (forgot him name) is doing the same job as Mordin. Morinth could have just as big a role as Mordin with all the Banshees running around.

But anyway, I never expected her to have a big role. Certaintly not like Mordin. But even the DLC characters got a bigger cameo than she did (if you can even call it that...). Hell, even minor characters like Conrad Verver and Aethyta had more screentime.

So a squadmate implented in the vanilla game shouldn't get what she did. And certaintly not the fans.

Like I said, I do agree in wishing she had a better appearance in ME3. Pretty craptastic what she got, but I don't think they'll ever bring her back for DLC.

[Seboist]

AlexMBrennan wrote...

Plus, exactly how would you imagine the crew present in ME2 reacting to her dropping the masquerade?
.

They wouldn't react at all given how most squadmates didn't even acknowledge each others' existence in 2.

[The Night Mammoth]

Seboist wrote...

AlexMBrennan wrote...

Plus, exactly how would you imagine the crew present in ME2 reacting to her dropping the masquerade?
.

They wouldn't react at all given how most squadmates didn't even acknowledge each others' existence in 2.

For a story revolving around the idea of building the ultimate team for most of its duration, you do almost nothing to actually make your group of disaparate killers and criminals into any sort of cohesive unit. 

You could probably hire a Collector and no one would notice. 

[kalasaurus]

I hate that serial killing rapist with her annoying sexy space vampire act, but I agree she deserved better than that. From reading her letters, it makes sense for her to save Falare and Rila. Maybe she could take Rila's place as the one turning into the Banshee.

[Handmaiden]

I'm not asking for a whole DLC to be centered around her, just while your at a Reaper base you see Morinth captured and have the chance to let her out of a cell or something... or see her in a bar and have a chat with her, or save some group of people somewhere and Morinth happens to be one of them. I don't expect her to be a squad member or on the ship or anything, just a chance to see her not as a Banshee with some dialogue. Maybe add her as a War Asset after you talk to her, giving the same points Samara gives.

It wouldn't be unfair to have Morinth content in a DLC and no extra content for the people who killed her because they already got extra content in the first place by seeing Samara in the Monastery and getting extra Renegade/Paragon options.

And her little DLC appearance would be so minor anyways, maybe on the way to talking to someone important in the mission you run into Morinth and have a few words with her... nothing big, but something to give Morinth fans some closure... she is one of my favorite video game characters and my favorite Mass Effect character...

And if she's so addicted to killing people with sex, they should have her as an assassin, seducing her bad guy targets and killing them, giving her the high she wants while helping Shepard. There's a lot of people who have Wrex dead on their save slots but he got a ton of content...

Even if you hate Morinth try to understand where I'm coming from. What if Jack only appeared as a Phantom, unsaveable, without even the extra enemy dialogue or your squadmates saying "THAT WAS JACK!", or the recordings of her turning into a Phantom. Just another random Phantom with "Jack" above her head... 

@GlassElephant She's not a rapist, she SEDUCES them, so they want it. That's the difference between an Incubus and a Succubus (other than gender).

Modifié par Handmaiden, 05 février 2013 - 06:44 .